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Obeast96
Profile Joined October 2012
United States106 Posts
October 18 2012 00:45 GMT
#2021
This is a sad day in the world of Esports.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
October 18 2012 00:45 GMT
#2022
On October 18 2012 09:42 megacrack wrote:
startale_ace confirmed that there was a embargo
http://www.playxp.com/sc2/bbs/view.php?article_id=4191185&page=3


Thats disappointing and a poor way to handle business. So much for advancing esports
kaisuki
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia68 Posts
October 18 2012 00:47 GMT
#2023
So to beat KeSPA, you have to become KeSPA?

That's pretty much the vibes I'm getting from eSF right now.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
October 18 2012 00:47 GMT
#2024
On October 18 2012 09:24 RenSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 09:15 Moka wrote:
On October 18 2012 09:02 RenSC2 wrote:
On October 18 2012 08:13 m4inbrain wrote:
It's all just a conspiracy right? LOL.


(...)
Finally, she cares so much about all her players that she takes cheap shots at guys like Taeja who had nothing to do with this. If that's caring, I'd much rather that she didn't care for me. It seems that the members of Slayers felt the same way. But I'm sure a few questionable statements by Alicia are enough to prove that all the fault is really on all the different players, not the person at the center of all the management decisions.


What? When did she cheap shot Taeja? Am I missing something? Sorry, If I misunderstood

Show nested quote +
Ganzi, TaeJa, Golden, and Sleep are cases where players left the team with no problems. In TaeJa's case, he requested that he be allowed to leave, and it was accepted. He wanted to play on a different team, not necessarily a foreign team, but in the process TeamLiquid sent a request. Whenever I see him doing well on his new team, I'm proud. He's not the style of player that practices a lot or puts in a lot of effort. However, seeing him play so well despite that makes me think that while MMA is the type of player that gets it done through effort, TaeJa is really a genius kind of player. If he could train under a system, then I think he could become the best player.

The context before and after sounds all nice, but right in the middle there's this nasty little cheap shot. Why say he's lazy? What good does that do for anyone? It's just a cheap shot that added absolutely nothing to the message except make her look like she wants to burn every bridge she can.

Huh? She says he would be the best if he practices more, hence the part about him being the type of player who doesn't really do that right now (or when he was with SlayerS). It adds everything to what she's saying about Taeja. And it's not a cheap shot or an insult. It's just her observation and the basis for her wishful thought. Honestly, I think people just want to criticise and tear apart everything she says, because they already have this set image for her.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Noc-
Profile Joined June 2012
Finland850 Posts
October 18 2012 00:48 GMT
#2025
I like MMA and Boxer so much, its hard and sad to see them like this. I hope they can settle things right.

Im so excited to see what is going to be MMA's next team. EG would be huge, definitely an option. MMA is such a big name and he said he wanted to join foreign team.
SEKO SEKO MMA<3 SEKO SEKO
creamyturtle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States487 Posts
October 18 2012 00:48 GMT
#2026
lol @ Jessica raging on Alicia. Who congratulates people via twitter, when they live in the same house?
Terran it up.
m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
October 18 2012 00:48 GMT
#2027
Honestly, I think people just want to criticise and tear apart everything she says, because they already have this set image for her.


In this thread theres actually just one person that tries to discredit Jessica over and over again, and does not respond anymore as soon as he gets proven otherwise. So just ignore him, the rest is quite open minded.
kaisuki
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia68 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 00:49:51
October 18 2012 00:49 GMT
#2028
On October 18 2012 09:48 creamyturtle wrote:
lol @ Jessica raging on Alicia. Who congratulates people via twitter, when they live in the same house?


Isn't NASL finals played live in America?
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 00:50:20
October 18 2012 00:49 GMT
#2029
Sad to see Boxer pouring out his passion and nurturing a bunch of selfish brats. I hope in SKT1 he finally gets to work with real mature pro gamers of the highest caliber (Fantasy, Rain, Bisu etc.)
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 00:50:18
October 18 2012 00:49 GMT
#2030
On October 18 2012 09:48 creamyturtle wrote:
lol @ Jessica raging on Alicia. Who congratulates people via twitter, when they live in the same house?


He was overseas?

Lol at your reading comprehension
Phanekim
Profile Joined April 2003
United States777 Posts
October 18 2012 00:50 GMT
#2031
cliff notes...that was way too long.
i like cheese
m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 00:50:51
October 18 2012 00:50 GMT
#2032
On October 18 2012 09:49 kaisuki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 09:48 creamyturtle wrote:
lol @ Jessica raging on Alicia. Who congratulates people via twitter, when they live in the same house?


Isn't NASL finals played live in America?


Correct. She used Twitter because 5000 miles are a long stretch for a hug, i guess. (edit, and no, i dont actually know the distance between the USA and S.Korea -.-)
ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
October 18 2012 00:50 GMT
#2033
On October 18 2012 09:48 creamyturtle wrote:
lol @ Jessica raging on Alicia. Who congratulates people via twitter, when they live in the same house?


One of the tweets is "pick up your phone". It's pretty obvious who's telling the truth in this instance at least.
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
October 18 2012 00:51 GMT
#2034
when i read this earlier I wanted to cry
le sigh
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 00:52:09
October 18 2012 00:51 GMT
#2035
On October 18 2012 09:32 Veldril wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 09:25 Milkis wrote:
On October 18 2012 09:22 Veldril wrote:
On October 18 2012 09:00 farnham wrote:
On October 18 2012 08:59 wildstyle1337 wrote:
On October 18 2012 08:49 m1rk3 wrote:
Sad Day. Sc2 dead? hope not.


What ? One team disband because bad management, Destiny trolling like always and ppl think it is end of sc2 funny

Did you even read what happened?


Jessica is still partly at fault, though. Sure, eSF is wrong in embargo players from training with Slayers, and Alicia just lying. But Jessica still did a couple of mismanagement, primarily give manager J all the shot on dealing with sponsors. That's a huge mistake that you cannot ignore at all.

Everyone is partly at fault here. Blaming only eSF's embargo as a sole reason why Slayers disbands is as bad as blaming everything on Jessica.


lol seriously?

she had good reason to think that the guy was sincere. very, very, good reason.

I don't know what to think about the bits regarding players acting selfishly whatever, but "J", who handled all of that stuff was pretty much the reason all of this happened to begin with :/


And that's a sign that she is not a good manager. This is business, not some child play. Even a family member can embezzle money from the family business if they get a chance and willing to do (family first hand experience, my mother's company was almost drove to the ground by my aunt-in-law).

Dealing with sponsorship is a big deal, and even she trusted him, she should still accompany him and check with sponsors by herself.

No, that's the point of hiring a MANAGER. When you hire somebody, you expect that person to be able to do that job when they accept it. When you hire a cook, you expect her to be able to cook on the first day of the job; when you hire a secretary, you expect that person to do whatever secretary does on the first day, so does manager. It's not like that "J" dude didn't his job, he managed couple other jobs that Jessica talked about, 2 months is enough to prove that he can do management jobs, so it's normal to send him to deal with the sponsors. Moreover, given the context (Slayers were doing well, the contract is just a renew contract), it's normal and enough to just let manager J deal with it.

That J dude was hired as manager to manage the team and find sponsors, he sabotaged the team by making sponsors leave, and you blame Jessica? His job is to find sponsors, and everybody expects him to do so, only when the sponsors didn't renew contracts with SlayerS, Jessica got the news and found the problems, and you blamed her?

ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 00:52:32
October 18 2012 00:51 GMT
#2036
On October 18 2012 09:48 m4inbrain wrote:
Show nested quote +
Honestly, I think people just want to criticise and tear apart everything she says, because they already have this set image for her.


In this thread theres actually just one person that tries to discredit Jessica over and over again, and does not respond anymore as soon as he gets proven otherwise. So just ignore him, the rest is quite open minded.


There's several. I was responding to a few in the earlier pages, but I stopped bothering.
It's seriously amazing how after 100 pages, people are still trying find things to bash Jessica about.

We've had the ST coach confirming a blacklisting, the IM coach trying to clean his hands from a Ganzi situation (where she has chat logs to support her claim), and Alicia is all but confirmed a greedy liar with possibly even more hidden skeletons based on the last sentence in Jessica's response.
blomsterjohn
Profile Joined June 2008
Norway472 Posts
October 18 2012 00:51 GMT
#2037
ehh, that whole practice embargo is quite despicable
Moka
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada942 Posts
October 18 2012 00:53 GMT
#2038
On October 18 2012 09:24 RenSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 09:15 Moka wrote:
On October 18 2012 09:02 RenSC2 wrote:
On October 18 2012 08:13 m4inbrain wrote:
It's all just a conspiracy right? LOL.


(...)
Finally, she cares so much about all her players that she takes cheap shots at guys like Taeja who had nothing to do with this. If that's caring, I'd much rather that she didn't care for me. It seems that the members of Slayers felt the same way. But I'm sure a few questionable statements by Alicia are enough to prove that all the fault is really on all the different players, not the person at the center of all the management decisions.


What? When did she cheap shot Taeja? Am I missing something? Sorry, If I misunderstood

Show nested quote +
Ganzi, TaeJa, Golden, and Sleep are cases where players left the team with no problems. In TaeJa's case, he requested that he be allowed to leave, and it was accepted. He wanted to play on a different team, not necessarily a foreign team, but in the process TeamLiquid sent a request. Whenever I see him doing well on his new team, I'm proud. He's not the style of player that practices a lot or puts in a lot of effort. However, seeing him play so well despite that makes me think that while MMA is the type of player that gets it done through effort, TaeJa is really a genius kind of player. If he could train under a system, then I think he could become the best player.

The context before and after sounds all nice, but right in the middle there's this nasty little cheap shot. Why say he's lazy? What good does that do for anyone? It's just a cheap shot that added absolutely nothing to the message except make her look like she wants to burn every bridge she can.

Oh, here? It's not even an insult and she even compliments Taeja by saying he's a genius kind of player. Context is important and thou shall read everything before criticizing! Maybe your hate blinds you a little bit.
ヾ(@⌒_⌒@)ノ
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
October 18 2012 00:54 GMT
#2039
On October 18 2012 09:51 ssxsilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 09:48 m4inbrain wrote:
Honestly, I think people just want to criticise and tear apart everything she says, because they already have this set image for her.


In this thread theres actually just one person that tries to discredit Jessica over and over again, and does not respond anymore as soon as he gets proven otherwise. So just ignore him, the rest is quite open minded.


There's several. I was responding to a few in the earlier pages, but I stopped bothering.
It's seriously amazing how after 100 pages, people are still trying find things to bash Jessica about.

We've had the ST coach confirming a blacklisting, the IM coach trying to clean his hands from a Ganzi situation (where she has chat logs to support her claim), and Alicia is all but confirmed a greedy liar with possibly even more hidden skeletons based on the last sentence in Jessica's response.


Yes, and everyone just keeps hating on Jessica. Well, she's got all the evidence and the people with sense know how to respond to that.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 00:55:47
October 18 2012 00:54 GMT
#2040
On October 18 2012 09:51 ssxsilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 09:48 m4inbrain wrote:
Honestly, I think people just want to criticise and tear apart everything she says, because they already have this set image for her.


In this thread theres actually just one person that tries to discredit Jessica over and over again, and does not respond anymore as soon as he gets proven otherwise. So just ignore him, the rest is quite open minded.


There's several. I was responding to a few in the earlier pages, but I stopped bothering.
It's seriously amazing how after 100 pages, people are still trying find things to bash Jessica about.

We've had the ST coach confirming a blacklisting, the IM coach trying to clean his hands from a Ganzi situation (where she has chat logs to support her claim), and Alicia is all but confirmed a greedy liar with possibly even more hidden skeletons based on the last sentence in Jessica's response.


Well but all in all, lets say most are open minded. It just saddens me otherwise how everyone just bashs Jessica because shes Jessica, and because of that, she has to be lying just to create more drama.

She may not be the best (or even a decent) Manager, but to say she did not care is borderline malicious. (for the lack of a better word right now)
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