KeSPA will have to do something eventually because we already know that ACE is going away, and they already rejected having a 7-team Proleague. Unless they create teams 7, 6, 5... then at some point they will eventually have to accept more teams into Proleague in some way.

ZigguratOfUr

Iraq16955 Posts

October 09 2012 03:55 GMT

#63

Creating a unified TeamLeague is a great idea, and kinda a no-brainer if you think about it. I'm surprised this hasn't been more discussed. There would be some formatting and scheduling issues, but the idea itself is great. If ESF and KeSPA can get along that is.

AKomrade

United States582 Posts

October 09 2012 03:57 GMT

#64

On October 08 2012 21:59 Teoita wrote:

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AFC vs NFC yo

With a schedule format kinda like the NFL, it might be the best compromise.

NO. AL vs. NL. No DH.

Ksquared

United States1748 Posts

October 09 2012 04:16 GMT

#65

It sounds good on paper not sure if it'll be possible though

Gamegene

United States8308 Posts

October 09 2012 04:23 GMT

#66

They seem to already be on board with this idea, it's just a matter of negotiations between the two entities o:

rift

1819 Posts

October 09 2012 04:26 GMT

#67

The only team that could legitimately replace Air Force ACE is LG-IM because LG is the only sponsor on par with KeSPA teams.

I could see 8th Team dying if they don't find a sponsor, also.

andrewlt

United States7702 Posts

October 09 2012 05:30 GMT

#68

Kespa style team league is the best, imo. Like team leagues in real sports like the NFL, NBA, etc., it gets fans caring about players they normally would not care about. It also gets fans caring about the developmental players their teams have. It builds a rapport between fans and future stars long before they actually break out.

GolemMadness

Canada11044 Posts

October 10 2012 10:49 GMT

#69

On October 09 2012 05:59 PVJ wrote:

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If MBC and OGN could make it work, for years, I certainly wouldn't see this as a problem. I think joint league would be benefitial for both parties at this point, fighting and cutting their audiences up would not help them, and introducing a half year long Combined Super PL could work well to hype domestic audiences.

That was all under Kespa, though. This is two different companies and two different "unions". Plus the rivalry and bad blood between Kespa and Gom in the past.

VTJRaen

United Kingdom238 Posts

October 10 2012 10:58 GMT

#70

It's an interesting idea, but to those talking about it working in football/soccer/basketball etc. just remember that these leagues run once a year, over a full season, while GOM has built its business around running shorter, more frequent tournaments. It's a question of who is going to shift and how much.

This would be wicked for the fans, but who gets to broadcast it? Who gets to be in charge? Whose studio is it held in? I feel like we're more likely to see a partnership in the way of GSL/OSL where they try not to schedule against one another and players/teams are free to enter both. If one league becomes deprecated then clearly the fans have chosen which they prefer and all will head over there, while the other fades.

FlukyS

Ireland485 Posts

October 10 2012 12:37 GMT

#71

Well I presumed that they would accept eSF teams into pro league because of the gap now left by Ace (and maybe Woonjin Stars and Team 8). Its interesting what will happen soon if those teams die. As for a champions league kind of thing, I would love to first see a combined league that got players who win events like every GSL winner in a year, every OSL winner in a year every MLG winner in a year, IPL, Dreamhack...etc all of the major tournaments. I think that would be really cool if someone could do it.

Fenrax

United States5018 Posts

October 10 2012 12:50 GMT

#72

On October 09 2012 00:42 supernovamaniac wrote:
Given what's happening (from few sources), they might need to do joint team league or one side might not have enough teams.

They certainly need to. Let's hope they actually do.

On October 10 2012 19:58 VTJRaen wrote:
It's an interesting idea, but to those talking about it working in football/soccer/basketball etc. just remember that these leagues run once a year, over a full season, while GOM has built its business around running shorter, more frequent tournaments. It's a question of who is going to shift and how much.

This would be wicked for the fans, but who gets to broadcast it? Who gets to be in charge? Whose studio is it held in? I feel like we're more likely to see a partnership in the way of GSL/OSL where they try not to schedule against one another and players/teams are free to enter both. If one league becomes deprecated then clearly the fans have chosen which they prefer and all will head over there, while the other fades.

Code A and Code S are GOM's big draws atm and they won't be affected. GSTL is a small thing for GOM currently so it would be only natural to take a chance to expand it.

The broadcasting and the question who is in charge is easily managed. They can either split it to let GOM broadcast outside of Korea and Kespa inside Korea but imo a better solution would be to do what OGN and MBC did when they broadcasted Proleague. When there were two games each station could broadcast one game on their channel. So one would be in GOM studio, one would be in OGN studio and then it comes down to math and negotiations who gets how many games and who gets which games.

It is only two sides and both sides would profit massively from each other. Kespa needs more teams for their team league broadcasts and they wouldn't mind access to the international market, GOM needs access to the Korean market and they wouldn't mind more teams for their team league broadcasts. Points like who gets how many games, who gets which games and who broadcasts the finals would have to be negotiated but that should not be a big deal. Both are gaining so a simple fair agreement is pretty much the easiest thing in the world. In theory that is. In reality I fear that they are fucking idiots and hate each other so much that they will screw it up, somehow.

bgx

Poland6595 Posts

October 10 2012 13:44 GMT

#73

First question how big is the cake ? Truly how big SC2 is in Korea? This will further help deduce what type of moves both parties will make.

xuanzue

Colombia1747 Posts

October 10 2012 16:40 GMT

#74

if kespa can give 90k and GOM another 60k, and the teams give 50k (anything like 3k per team, 16 teams), they can have a good tournament with 200k of prizes

Fenrax

United States5018 Posts

October 12 2012 04:04 GMT

#75

It is not about the prize money, though. The NBA comparisons might get a bit old, but it fits very well here because the NBA champion gets no prize money whatsoever (as far as I know). For the fans the prestige is far more important than a prize cheque and for the teams the sponsorship value and TV money share is worth more than any realistic prize cheque.

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