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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-24 22:12:16
September 24 2012 22:09 GMT
#161
http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/mvp-broadcast-schedule/

Scarlett out, qxc in, compared to OP. Was that already known?
archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
September 24 2012 22:23 GMT
#162
A spelling mistake in the announcement, "Sockeh", and players that aren't tested internationally seems like a tournament i will miss. I will read recaps though to see if i was wrong.
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StarGalaxy
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany744 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 07:11:07
September 26 2012 07:10 GMT
#163
I like the tournament format but the prize distribution is disgusting.
MLG, you let every player play 24 matches and you pay 47 out of the 48 players not a single cent?
Whose stupid idea was that to pay the winner all the prize many at a tournament where 48 great players are attending?
seriously this is a really bad joke...
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dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 07:51:16
September 26 2012 07:49 GMT
#164
On September 25 2012 07:09 StarVe wrote:
http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/mvp-broadcast-schedule/

Scarlett out, qxc in, compared to OP. Was that already known?


Huh, Scarlett is in the broadcast schedule with no qxc, but qxc is in the player list with no Scarlett.

On September 25 2012 07:23 archonOOid wrote:
A spelling mistake in the announcement, "Sockeh", and players that aren't tested internationally seems like a tournament i will miss. I will read recaps though to see if i was wrong.


Players are tested internationally for like a month. Then they're put into playoffs based on those results. The playoffs start off region-based and then move back to international.
JackReacher
Profile Joined September 2012
United States197 Posts
September 26 2012 08:31 GMT
#165
Is it just me, or is MLG already starting to lose its credibility and legitimacy? It's like GSL (and probably soon OSL as well) are the torunaments that decide who the "champion" is, and MLG events are just random stunts and showmatches with an awkward, artificial feel. Id say they need to get a clue and take a cue from GOMTV, but it's clear the management is just outnofntouch and the whole organization comes off as a sort of corny joke. They just dont get why GSL is so much more prestigious; you can't just buy a tournament and manufacture a champion by inviting a half dozen Koreans and letting them and a bunch of foreigners battle it out with bottom of the barrell casting. This lastest Kespa vs MLG publicity stunt is another display of their irrelevency.
StarGalaxy
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany744 Posts
September 26 2012 08:54 GMT
#166
On September 26 2012 17:31 JackReacher wrote:
Is it just me, or is MLG already starting to lose its credibility and legitimacy? It's like GSL (and probably soon OSL as well) are the torunaments that decide who the "champion" is, and MLG events are just random stunts and showmatches with an awkward, artificial feel. Id say they need to get a clue and take a cue from GOMTV, but it's clear the management is just outnofntouch and the whole organization comes off as a sort of corny joke. They just dont get why GSL is so much more prestigious; you can't just buy a tournament and manufacture a champion by inviting a half dozen Koreans and letting them and a bunch of foreigners battle it out with bottom of the barrell casting. This lastest Kespa vs MLG publicity stunt is another display of their irrelevency.


yes it is just you
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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
September 26 2012 09:09 GMT
#167
no, it's not just him. this is the strangest tournament put on by one of the biggest tournament organizers ever.

10$ PPV for an *online* tournament with, all due respect, not the very best casters and a really strange format that i haven't seen explained in an actually understandable way anywhere. on top of that, there seems to be waaay too many games happening over that season to broadcast more than ~10% of them. the obvious advantage of online tournaments is that you should be easily capable of broadcasting all the games, but that obviously wouldn't work here as they would still be casting group stage games when heart of the swarm is out.

so basically they're asking for 10$ for about 10% of the games of a gimmicky tournament with a mediocre caster lineup.
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NeonFox
Profile Joined January 2011
2373 Posts
September 26 2012 10:40 GMT
#168
I've got a feeling this is going to crash and burn, the person who posted above me listed everything that is wrong with this event in my opinion.
Ariovist
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany430 Posts
September 26 2012 10:59 GMT
#169
I guess if it would have a adequate Caster duo, I would pay. It is not that I dont like those guys, there are good, but given the amount of prestige and epicness that is going to occure there, I really was hoping for it being either for a free or, in case I have to pay, some awesome production with a good caster duo.
I feel like this is not the right way if you want to invest into sth, in that case, investing into future events with Kespa.
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
September 26 2012 11:02 GMT
#170
On September 26 2012 18:09 Schelim wrote:
no, it's not just him. this is the strangest tournament put on by one of the biggest tournament organizers ever.

10$ PPV for an *online* tournament with, all due respect, not the very best casters and a really strange format that i haven't seen explained in an actually understandable way anywhere. on top of that, there seems to be waaay too many games happening over that season to broadcast more than ~10% of them. the obvious advantage of online tournaments is that you should be easily capable of broadcasting all the games, but that obviously wouldn't work here as they would still be casting group stage games when heart of the swarm is out.

so basically they're asking for 10$ for about 10% of the games of a gimmicky tournament with a mediocre caster lineup.


Not to mention replays aren't even released lol
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TheSir
Profile Joined February 2012
1830 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 11:13:40
September 26 2012 11:12 GMT
#171
On September 26 2012 19:40 NeonFox wrote:
I've got a feeling this is going to crash and burn, the person who posted above me listed everything that is wrong with this event in my opinion.


This, plus they are broadcasting replays. Replay tournaments (lets call them that) dont do good in general so i have no idea where MLG gets the idea to make a PPV online tournament with replays on mondays and fridays, which also means most Europeans cant see shit. Not that it matters cause their replays, so VOD or broadcast... doesn't matter really.

So 10 bucks for watching VOD's? Hmm nope

kusto
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation823 Posts
September 26 2012 13:58 GMT
#172
On September 26 2012 17:54 OrbitalPlane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 17:31 JackReacher wrote:
Is it just me, or is MLG already starting to lose its credibility and legitimacy? It's like GSL (and probably soon OSL as well) are the torunaments that decide who the "champion" is, and MLG events are just random stunts and showmatches with an awkward, artificial feel. Id say they need to get a clue and take a cue from GOMTV, but it's clear the management is just outnofntouch and the whole organization comes off as a sort of corny joke. They just dont get why GSL is so much more prestigious; you can't just buy a tournament and manufacture a champion by inviting a half dozen Koreans and letting them and a bunch of foreigners battle it out with bottom of the barrell casting. This lastest Kespa vs MLG publicity stunt is another display of their irrelevency.


yes it is just you


No it's not. The format IS artificial since MLG the potential non-Kespa finalist probably will be head and shoulders below the Kespa players who lost rounds before. It's arbitrary rules like "Hey, let's seed 1 EU/NA pro into finals lol" which makes this tourney completely irrelevant for me.
the game is the game
6BiT
Profile Joined December 2011
513 Posts
September 27 2012 03:13 GMT
#173
On September 26 2012 18:09 Schelim wrote:
10$ PPV for an *online* tournament


This sums it up really....

I don't want to trash talk MLG, because I've enjoyed watching the championship events on stream when I've had the time... and them trying different things to see if something might be profitable for them as a business is a good thing.

But I don't know how a PPV online tournament seemed like a good idea... maybe they were expecting that having abit of exclusivity on the Kespa players would attract viewers (I'm just trying to think of something and that is the only thing that makes any amount of sense lol =/).

But take into consideration what GSL / IPL (would think they would be MLG's biggest competitors) offers on a near weekly basis (and more often than not when they have 'on' weeks... they are broadcasting most days of that week)

+ Show Spoiler +

GSL - $15 a season for top notch players/competition/production. And if you don't mind watching in standard definition and your not that into VODs you can watch it live for free.

IPL - Their regular content is all online stuff, but the IPTL, Fight Club... those can make for some really nice viewing... and its all free, VODs on youtube etc.

Just a couple of examples of whats out there regularly when it comes to pro sc2 content


Its amazing to see how far professional sc2 has progressed over the last couple of years.. including the production of major tournaments/events, even regular content..

This particular tournament just feels like a regression. Its the first time I've really felt that coming from one of the bigger companies in the esports world.*


But hey, I'm just a person on a forum with an opinion lol


[ * I mean in terms of the general idea behind the tournament, not the execution. ]
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dizzy101
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2066 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-28 05:19:34
September 28 2012 05:16 GMT
#174
This tournament by MLG is very weird. Especially how it more or less came out of nowhere. Is this something the community was waiting for? Prolly not. How does this tournament provide value to NA players? It doesn't. The chance of winning is near zero, and it doesn't increase players' exposure in any way, especially since only the hardcore will watch the PPV streams.

It has curiosity value at best.

In my opinion, MLG should focus more on current and up-and-coming NA players and think about how they (MLG) can provide value for these players. How many new faces does one see come out of the NA scene per year? Only a few. That's a bad thing. Can MLG do things that increase that number? Of course.

One might argue that tourneys like these draw viewers, and that that's what matters. But viewers are not priority #1; players are. By focusing on players, you can grow a healthy scene with lots of competition that rewards the players. And once you build that, they (viewers) will come. Putting the viewer first is putting the cart before the horse; it's backwards.

The scene needs more grass roots, more bottom-up. Sometimes MLG looks like the the opposite of grass roots.
jake1138
Profile Joined September 2011
United States82 Posts
October 02 2012 02:38 GMT
#175
No discount for MLG Gold members? Sad.
sjperera
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada349 Posts
October 02 2012 02:59 GMT
#176
does anyone know where to find a results page for this? Liquipedia doesn't have most of the results registered yet...
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SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
October 02 2012 03:11 GMT
#177
Honestly, I think the problems are the 10$ PPV combined with replay casting and the games aren't really that competitive. GSL still offers much better competition and it's a lot more exciting to see KeSPA vs ESF than KeSPA vs foreigners.
BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
October 02 2012 04:02 GMT
#178
I guess I'm in the minority. I'm enjoying the games. VoDs are good. I like watching the Kespa pro's and their progress. Only minor gripe is no dedicated observer - AxelToss shouldn't have to do it. But overall, happy with my purchase. Hell, I'd pay ten bucks for only Flash, Rain, and JD's games. And as trivial as some of these seeding games may be, I think the tourney will be entertaining. But thats just me...
ThePrince
Profile Joined October 2010
Peru331 Posts
October 05 2012 14:20 GMT
#179

I also agree with BoZiffer. I'm enjoying the games. And I think $10 is worth it for watching these matchups. I think we otherwise would not see these players play each other, so I for one fully support MLG in this tournament, and feel I've gotten my money's worth. Again, I would also pay $10 bucks for watching Rain, Flash, JD games as well, and I have found the games already played entertaining.

Keep it up MLG. On a side note, were there any games broadcasted yesterday? I got home late.
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britneysbeers
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom22 Posts
October 05 2012 18:36 GMT
#180
Tonights matches look pretty good:
MC (P) vs Jaedong (Z)
Grubby (P) vs Flash (T)
Sasquatch (Z) vs sOs (P)
Sase (P) vs Last (T)
Alive (T) vs Hyvaa (Z)

Come on Grubby - hold the line
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