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Stop derailing with living cost talk

On September 13 2012 07:51 MinistryOfWin wrote:
Press Release:

http://www.ministryofwin.com/news/press-release-september-13th-2012

Stay tuned for the article on ESFIWORLD.com.

- Wednesday, Sep 12 10:51pm GMT (GMT+00:00)

On September 13 2012 08:02 MinistryOfWin wrote:
http://esfiworld.com/news/ministry-win-respond-fuzers-claims

- Wednesday, Sep 12 11:02pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
September 12 2012 23:09 GMT
#1101
On September 13 2012 08:07 nesneros wrote:
http://esfiworld.com/news/ministry-win-respond-fuzers-claims


The most interesting thing in that post is that Desrow is complaining about the food because it isn't healthy enough o.0 lolwut
We need to get to the bottom of this, MoW is killing Desrow!
Believersoul
Profile Joined May 2011
34 Posts
September 12 2012 23:09 GMT
#1102
That is disgusting SURE That peice of shit YOU BRING HIM TO COURT. you show the transaction of YOU paying for that month then you know what happens? This guy goes to jail and gets sued for ashit ton of monedy build your own god damn house and make a team

User was warned for this post
It is not the Right now that is important , but the next thing - Day9
AveGod
Profile Joined April 2012
30 Posts
September 12 2012 23:10 GMT
#1103
On September 13 2012 08:04 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 08:01 AveGod wrote:
"but in Poland I doubt it's even 100 euros a month(My own food isn't that much and Finland AFAIK has really costly stuff)."

Damn man, maybe you can send me some food like once a week if it's so cheap in Finland.

/ Polish citizen

Macaronis 400 grams 28 cents, 1500 calories. Water, free with rent. (Quite a bit left over for fluff)


Well where i live the CHEAPEST one costs about 50-60 cents ;x So you can only imagine the cost of everything else
Nikentic
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden51 Posts
September 12 2012 23:10 GMT
#1104
ESFI is not a trusted news source in any way. MoW house is going as expected, drama like this were bound to happen..
I blame with Fuzer and MoW for this. MoW housing him and Fuzer paying then without neither signing a contract? Such an idiotic move by both parts.
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
September 12 2012 23:10 GMT
#1105
Juicy drama making community more interested in SC2 than HotS did.
10/10
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/hunter692007/kruemelmonsteryn0.gif
GoSh4rks
Profile Joined June 2011
United States11 Posts
September 12 2012 23:11 GMT
#1106
"Krupowies showed ESFI a Skype log that had him offering Fuzer the refund of the second month’s fee, but that Fuzer declined to accept it."l

I wouldn't accept it either if I was looking to get my pro-rated first month back at the same time.
insanet
Profile Joined January 2010
Peru439 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 23:12:27
September 12 2012 23:11 GMT
#1107
On September 13 2012 08:08 Swords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 08:02 MinistryOfWin wrote:
http://esfiworld.com/news/ministry-win-respond-fuzers-claims


This is somewhat better, but I'd like to see the skype log where "boss" offers Fuzer his money back. It seems like that'd be fair evidence to post, although maybe not? I'm not an expert on the legality side of showing evidence like that or what else it might reveal.


Dude nothing new here, read again please, Fuzer said Boss offered his money back BUT only when he made the drama t public on his facebook.

On September 13 2012 03:38 Fuzer wrote:

When I wrote to my facebook page that they stole my money, right away the boss asked about my bank account, but anyways I decided to tell the story.

Awesomeness
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1361 Posts
September 12 2012 23:11 GMT
#1108
On September 13 2012 08:09 saksy2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 08:05 Xorphene wrote:
The ESFI article refutes nothing either - an interview with Desrow that could have taken place anytime prior to Fuzer's post proves nothing.

Shoddy organisation is shoddy.

What are you on about? Desrow specifically comments on Fuzer's description of the contract.

Show nested quote +
According to current MoW house resident desRow, Fuzer's description of certain details of the contract, including a 10-year non-compete clause and streaming quotas, are accurate. “The prohibition of competition page is a bit sketchy, but I think it just needs to be reworded,” he said


It doesn't fit the "MoW=Hitler"-view we have established here though so we should probably ignore it.
xlord 5:0
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
September 12 2012 23:11 GMT
#1109
My understanding of the OP was that he was refused a refund until he decided to post it on tl, and then he was told he could have a refund only if he didn't post. I think it's kind of important for them to clarify this point.
Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
September 12 2012 23:11 GMT
#1110
they are talking about this on lo3
| INnoVation | The literal god TY | ByuNjwa | LRSL when? |
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
September 12 2012 23:12 GMT
#1111
seems like they weren't going to give Fuzer his money then Fuzer said he was going to post on tl about it and then they said he could have his money, shady in other words
rckY
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany116 Posts
September 12 2012 23:12 GMT
#1112
Wow, just stumbled over this one. Really sad your bucks are gone Fuzer . At least you didn't sign that crap.
Second? Is this guy being serious.. scrambling up 5 sentences within 3 hours? Get your sh... together before you start running a business like this. I am really suprised that they charge 600€ per month Oo and you want ad revenue aswell, sounds like you are exploiting these guys... can't take you guys serious anylonger and i hope this whole MoW-bubble pops.
AndySCWilson
Profile Joined September 2010
43 Posts
September 12 2012 23:12 GMT
#1113
agreeing to not live in a gamer house for the next 10 years is basically career suicide.
Timerly
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany511 Posts
September 12 2012 23:12 GMT
#1114
On September 13 2012 08:06 Chill wrote:
This doesn't seem that bad. You're living in a balling house so obviously they need to recover the expenses somehow. And non-competitive clauses never hold up under legal scrutiny. Drama from nothing.


600€ a month per person is beyond that, excluding the streaming revenue. Don't forget we're talking about Poland here. I haven't even seen any evidence for the house being "balling".


and btw:

According to current MoW house resident desRow, Fuzer's description of certain details of the contract, including a 10-year non-compete clause and streaming quotas, are accurate. “The prohibition of competition page is a bit sketchy, but I think it just needs to be reworded,” he said.


How can you be oblivious enough to still sign that when it's clearly BS? Needs to be reworded BEFORE you sign it Oo
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
September 12 2012 23:12 GMT
#1115
On September 13 2012 08:05 Xorphene wrote:
The ESFI article refutes nothing either - an interview with Desrow that could have taken place anytime prior to Fuzer's post proves nothing.

Shoddy organisation is shoddy.

Those quotes were taken an hour or 2 ago.
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
September 12 2012 23:13 GMT
#1116
I could try and take sides and spin one side as being more correct than the other, but i don't feel either has acted particularly good here. At the end of the day i respect Fuzer more for standing up for himself and bailing on what looked like a pretty dodgy situation.

The bar needs to be raised across the board in the esports, and this is an example of that not happening.

I just want people to learn from this crap
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
Mazzi
Profile Joined August 2012
440 Posts
September 12 2012 23:13 GMT
#1117
On September 13 2012 08:02 Fealthas wrote:
I bet the only thing they are saying is "kurwa".

hahahahahahahahahahha

but on topic, MoW looks like a shady and shitty organization. They looked promising at start but this is just ridiculous
Doomwish
Profile Joined July 2011
438 Posts
September 12 2012 23:13 GMT
#1118
CANT be on another team for 10 YEARS? rofl ... what-a-fucking-joke.
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
September 12 2012 23:13 GMT
#1119
On September 13 2012 08:13 Doomwish wrote:
CANT be on another team for 10 YEARS? rofl ... what-a-fucking-joke.


Can you read?
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
September 12 2012 23:14 GMT
#1120
Desrow comments adding nothing tbh, just passing the buck and avoiding the issue
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