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Stop derailing with living cost talk On September 13 2012 07:51 MinistryOfWin wrote: Press Release: http://www.ministryofwin.com/news/press-release-september-13th-2012 Stay tuned for the article on ESFIWORLD.com. - Wednesday, Sep 12 10:51pm GMT (GMT+00:00) On September 13 2012 08:02 MinistryOfWin wrote: http://esfiworld.com/news/ministry-win-respond-fuzers-claims - Wednesday, Sep 12 11:02pm GMT (GMT+00:00) | ||
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Mirrikh
Romania105 Posts
On September 13 2012 07:02 Zorkmid wrote: That's stupid, that's not the reason they NEED a contract. Why would someone want proof of extra income on paper that they then have to claim? Without a contract it's illegal. It is also illegal not to pay taxes. When you do something illegal THEY come for you :D | ||
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
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Godwrath
Spain10146 Posts
On September 13 2012 07:24 Mirrikh wrote: Without a contract it's illegal. It is also illegal not to pay taxes. When you do something illegal THEY come for you :D tax boys tax boys...... | ||
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Anton K
Sweden277 Posts
On September 13 2012 07:24 Vapaach wrote: Apparently the boss has left 1k USD unpaid to Gunrun and has a history of shadiness. The guy's toast if you ask me. NO THAT'S NOT TRUE. How hard is it to read a thread? It's a totally different guy who owes Gunrun 1k usd. | ||
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HornyHerring
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
......whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do when they come for you | ||
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Czarnodziej
Poland624 Posts
On September 13 2012 07:24 Vapaach wrote: Apparently the boss has left 1k USD unpaid to Gunrun and has a history of shadiness. The guy's toast if you ask me. Gunrun was refering to guy named "Gus", not MoW manager. | ||
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Emmiej
Netherlands62 Posts
On September 13 2012 07:24 Vapaach wrote: Apparently the boss has left 1k USD unpaid to Gunrun and has a history of shadiness. The guy's toast if you ask me. Isnt that about that thing in the Philippines and that person was Gus ? | ||
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Zocat
Germany2229 Posts
Dont say you will release a statement within a certain timeframe and then dont release a statement in said timeframe. It makes you look like a bunch of incompetent idiots. "Within 24 hours" (considering it was late in the evening when the thread occured), "as soon as possible" would've been all viable timeframes, since statements take time. Everyone knows that. Saying 2 hours and then not sticking to it. Well... incompetence. And when someone is incompetent in one field... well.... | ||
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Awesomeness
Germany1361 Posts
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Breach_hu
Hungary2431 Posts
 NOW! | ||
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mango_destroyer
Canada3914 Posts
On September 13 2012 07:19 stfouri wrote: Not sending the contract forward... Mmm this I can understand, they just don't want it to go puplic with all the numbers on it. Everyone does this, we don't know how much players get paid for example. Then again, why not just let someone goddamn translate it to Fuzer. Like some random dude who has nothing to do with esports. Oh and hope Fuzer gets atleast some of his money back. The not sending contract forward is not standard at all. The contents of that contract isn`t made any more public when you have a lawyer review it with you. The moment that contract is given to the client they are at risk of the contents being made public. Fuzer could have just taken a hard copy of the contract and forwarded it to his lawyer. | ||
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mememolly
4765 Posts
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UmbraaeternuS
Chile476 Posts
At least try to make it look like Blizzard by saying "soon". It makes you look a little more competent. But it's been what, 3 hours now? It's a thing of business basics: If you give a timeframe for a statement, RESPECT DEM TIMEFRAMES. | ||
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
On September 13 2012 07:28 Zocat wrote: Business basic: Dont say you will release a statement within a certain timeframe and then dont release a statement in said timeframe. It makes you look like a bunch of incompetent idiots. "Within 24 hours" (considering it was late in the evening when the thread occured), "as soon as possible" would've been all viable timeframes, since statements take time. Everyone knows that. Saying 2 hours and then not sticking to it. Well... incompetence. And when someone is incompetent in one field... well.... Agreed, its pretty unprofessional to say within 2 hrs and then 3.5 hrs later still nothing. I still want to see a copy of this contract also. | ||
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Sent.
Poland9304 Posts
What I'm trying to say is that the accused side of conflict is always in disadvantageous position in such situations, because many people form and spread their opinions before hearing out both sides. I think the thread in which Spades was accused of hacking is the best example of the problem. OP was very suggestive, some people started raging and Spades was quickly deemed guilty. I don't even know if he did hack or not, but the amount of bad PR he received before he could defend himself had put him in unrecoverable position. | ||
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Vapaach
Finland994 Posts
On September 13 2012 07:27 Emmiej wrote: Isnt that about that thing in the Philippines and that person was Gus ? Oh nevermind, my bad. But I still think he's toast though ^^ | ||
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nullrd
22 Posts
edit: sry not the statement just a polish summary | ||
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VoirDire
Sweden1923 Posts
On September 13 2012 07:31 nullrd wrote: http://netwars.pl/temat/150698 this is the statement in polish. somebody can translate? Google translated: at a glance. Füzér gave a contract to your lawyer and what happened? that by signing up for it, you have no right to live in any other pro haousie for 10 years wtf? in addition he was there for 6 days and paid for a month, but he did not sign the contract has been kicked. The problem lies in the fact that he wanted to get their money back but the "Boss" opdowiedział whether or not a contract - no, no - so you never been so real and I do not have your money. embarrassment. I am outraged by this situation, because the subject went to tl, and again a lot more than you lost've gained. Because a good name is worth more than any money .. before food for the guests and now it .. business is business and there is no sentiment in them but the organization's reputation is worth more than 2k. | ||
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RagequitBM
Canada2270 Posts
releasing a statement late, does not make you look like an incompetent idiot, that's similar to Blizzard or nearly every other company changing the release date for a game. Sometimes PR takes time to make, that you did not forsee. It's like people want MoW to die or something. Also the link that was posted saying it was the statement by nullrd, that IS NOT It is just a summary of the teamliquid thread. | ||
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Henku
United States2 Posts
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