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Stop derailing with living cost talk

On September 13 2012 07:51 MinistryOfWin wrote:
Press Release:

http://www.ministryofwin.com/news/press-release-september-13th-2012

Stay tuned for the article on ESFIWORLD.com.

- Wednesday, Sep 12 10:51pm GMT (GMT+00:00)

On September 13 2012 08:02 MinistryOfWin wrote:
http://esfiworld.com/news/ministry-win-respond-fuzers-claims

- Wednesday, Sep 12 11:02pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
AveGod
Profile Joined April 2012
30 Posts
September 12 2012 22:33 GMT
#961
On September 13 2012 07:31 nullrd wrote:
http://netwars.pl/temat/150698 this is the statement in polish. somebody can translate?



It's not a statement ...
Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
September 12 2012 22:33 GMT
#962
After a loooong day it is so nice to come home and read about silly starcraft drama
It´s my kind of soap opera!
OT: This sounds like total crap for MoW.
♞ Against the Wind - Bob Seger ♞
yaxv
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark50 Posts
September 12 2012 22:33 GMT
#963
Hey Fuser,
it was certainly a good call not to sign the contract, especially when there are unclear parts of it, and even more importantly, when they wouldn't let a lawyer read it. The ball is on the boss' side and he has to explain all this.
divito
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1213 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 22:35:48
September 12 2012 22:33 GMT
#964
I'm confused how there are people that think that releasing a statement to a new site makes it get "fluffed up" for the Ministry of Win.

The MoW management could have easily provided their own statement here in the forum and on their site/Facebook/Twitter etc... and fully had their side represented, and spun their statement to meet their needs and image. It could have contained a lot of false information, and it would have turned into a "he said, she said" type of altercation.

By providing it to a news site, which tend to deal with an aspect of impartiality, they should be able to tell both sides of the story in an attempt to reconcile the differences and misunderstandings inherent in personal interpretations of the stories of both sides.

Now, it remains to be seen who they chose, and whether that can fully be trusted, but we should give them the benefit of the doubt for now.
Skype: divito7
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9277 Posts
September 12 2012 22:33 GMT
#965
On September 13 2012 07:31 nullrd wrote:
http://netwars.pl/temat/150698 this is the statement in polish. somebody can translate?


It's not a statement. It's a closed thread about the thread on TL.
You're now breathing manually
Czarnodziej
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland624 Posts
September 12 2012 22:34 GMT
#966
On September 13 2012 07:31 nullrd wrote:
http://netwars.pl/temat/150698 this is the statement in polish. somebody can translate?

It's not a statement, its basically a 3rd person comment about what Fuzer posted.
Kaelaris
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom788 Posts
September 12 2012 22:34 GMT
#967
On September 13 2012 07:31 nullrd wrote:
http://netwars.pl/temat/150698 this is the statement in polish. somebody can translate?


This isn't the statement.
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Tonttu
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland606 Posts
September 12 2012 22:35 GMT
#968
On September 13 2012 07:31 nullrd wrote:
http://netwars.pl/temat/150698 this is the statement in polish. somebody can translate?


Doesn't seem to be a statement says google translate.. Appears to be a random polish guy being sad about this etc.
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Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 22:36:44
September 12 2012 22:36 GMT
#969
On September 13 2012 07:34 mouzKaelaris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 07:31 nullrd wrote:
http://netwars.pl/temat/150698 this is the statement in polish. somebody can translate?


This isn't the statement.


I think i know how you can read Polish :D

On topic, i hope they release soon and they will keep it in 1 thread instead of creating new ones when every fresh information appears. Still waiting.
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 12 2012 22:36 GMT
#970
On September 13 2012 07:31 nullrd wrote:
http://netwars.pl/temat/150698 this is the statement in polish. somebody can translate?

google translated...

That's no statement
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Shinobi1982
Profile Joined January 2011
1605 Posts
September 12 2012 22:36 GMT
#971
well in 20 min at least slasher will give us something.
Train like an animal, eat like a horse, sleep like a baby, grow like a weed.
baikor
Profile Joined April 2008
Bulgaria28 Posts
September 12 2012 22:37 GMT
#972
On September 13 2012 07:32 VoirDire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 07:31 nullrd wrote:
http://netwars.pl/temat/150698 this is the statement in polish. somebody can translate?

Google translated:

Show nested quote +
at a glance.

Füzér gave a contract to your lawyer and what happened?
that by signing up for it, you have no right to live in any other pro haousie for 10 years wtf?
in addition he was there for 6 days and paid for a month, but he did not sign the contract has been kicked. The problem lies in the fact that he wanted to get their money back but the "Boss" opdowiedział whether or not a contract - no, no - so you never been so real and I do not have your money.

embarrassment. I am outraged by this situation, because the subject went to tl, and again a lot more than you lost've gained. Because a good name is worth more than any money .. before food for the guests and now it ..
business is business and there is no sentiment in them but the organization's reputation is worth more than 2k.


What a shitty statement
Kaelaris
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom788 Posts
September 12 2012 22:37 GMT
#973
On September 13 2012 07:36 Nerchio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 07:34 mouzKaelaris wrote:
On September 13 2012 07:31 nullrd wrote:
http://netwars.pl/temat/150698 this is the statement in polish. somebody can translate?


This isn't the statement.


I think i know how you can read Polish :D

On topic, i hope they release soon and they will keep it in 1 thread instead of creating new ones when every fresh information appears. Still waiting.


LOL too true man - Polish get-together at WCS EU? :3
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Random_Guy09
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1010 Posts
September 12 2012 22:38 GMT
#974
On September 13 2012 04:20 Mackus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 04:15 Destiny wrote:
The Boss guy looks like kind of a dick here, but honestly, a contract is a contract.

When I was first contacted by MoW, my very first action was to request a contract and read through all of the fine terms.

As for the "not allowed to stay at another house in 10 years," that's not true, you're just not allowed to start your own team house in 10 years. It's kind of strange, maybe, for the e-sports world, but that's a pretty standard non-competition clause from the business world. It's meant to protect businesses from revealing practices to an employee and then having that employee run off to start their own business to compete using everything they learned from that previous business. Not saying it's right or wrong in this circumstance, just giving some background.

Yeah, there are some other clauses. Financial compensation they want, minimum number of stream hours, etc...etc...But to complain about all of these after the fact..? I can't understand why anyone would move to a house and not read the contract first, seems kind of strange.


You're missing the important part where he's paid a months rent without signing a contract and has been asked to leave.


Exactly and they pretty much tried to pressure him to sign it without letting his lawyer look at it after some identification that that person was infact a lawyer. What more does a lawyer need to send than they're god damn university degree to show they know wtf they're talking about?
AveGod
Profile Joined April 2012
30 Posts
September 12 2012 22:38 GMT
#975
On September 13 2012 07:36 Nerchio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 07:34 mouzKaelaris wrote:
On September 13 2012 07:31 nullrd wrote:
http://netwars.pl/temat/150698 this is the statement in polish. somebody can translate?


This isn't the statement.


I think i know how you can read Polish :D

On topic, i hope they release soon and they will keep it in 1 thread instead of creating new ones when every fresh information appears. Still waiting.



You know that if you won't win WCS Europe there will be so called "wpierdol na WCG", right ? :<
ChoboChewie
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany15 Posts
September 12 2012 22:38 GMT
#976
Darkforce's opinion:
carloselcoco
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2302 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 22:38:56
September 12 2012 22:38 GMT
#977
On September 13 2012 07:31 nullrd wrote:
http://netwars.pl/temat/150698 this is the statement in polish. somebody can translate?




Even without knowing Polish, we can be sure that their statement would not be that short...
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Kirb
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany900 Posts
September 12 2012 22:38 GMT
#978
On September 13 2012 07:36 Shinobi1982 wrote:
well in 20 min at least slasher will give us something.

Maybe they were referring to the gamespot esportpage! :D
Tyrran
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
France777 Posts
September 12 2012 22:39 GMT
#979
AS for now, from what I think of this thread,I think MoW was in they own rigth all along. I understand fuzer being disappointed from the condition of life in the gaming house, as he was maybe expecting more that they can offer, but unfortunately for him, this his the hard reality of life.
Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.
wildstyle1337
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland514 Posts
September 12 2012 22:39 GMT
#980
On September 13 2012 07:27 Czarnodziej wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 07:24 Vapaach wrote:
Apparently the boss has left 1k USD unpaid to Gunrun and has a history of shadiness. The guy's toast if you ask me.

Gunrun was refering to guy named "Gus", not MoW manager.


but Mow Manager is kropekk who didnt pay money for COd tournament for few months,
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