EPTSeems like a way to try to train as hard as koreans, without doing so, and against lesser players and on EU ladder and with lots of streaming....
I like the idea, but it seems there is flaws. Maybe it's just me.
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Stop derailing with living cost talk On September 13 2012 07:51 MinistryOfWin wrote: Press Release: http://www.ministryofwin.com/news/press-release-september-13th-2012 Stay tuned for the article on ESFIWORLD.com. - Wednesday, Sep 12 10:51pm GMT (GMT+00:00) On September 13 2012 08:02 MinistryOfWin wrote: http://esfiworld.com/news/ministry-win-respond-fuzers-claims - Wednesday, Sep 12 11:02pm GMT (GMT+00:00) | ||
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Grovbolle
Denmark3818 Posts
Seems like a way to try to train as hard as koreans, without doing so, and against lesser players and on EU ladder and with lots of streaming.... I like the idea, but it seems there is flaws. Maybe it's just me. | ||
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Owl
145 Posts
On September 14 2012 00:55 Tommyth wrote: Okay, so any Polish guy who thinks Fuzer is not right is a nationalist? Right. There is no chance he just has different point of view - if MoW was not in Poland, he would surely be the first to cast a stone at it. In my opinion, the are two ways MoW can somewhat get away with it: - apologize Fuzer, give him back to money, claim their policy was not fair, change their boss and start from scratch; - reveal the contract, become as transparent as possible, to prove that it is Fuzer who was wrong. If they don't, I believe they will slowly sink, and, to be honest, it would be absolutely deserved. Even if contract was "normal" without 10 year things of no competition they still should have paid him his money after they couldn't come to agreement. Doesn't matter what contract was we all know they couldn't agree on it,it happens all the time,not everyone always agrees. | ||
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On September 14 2012 00:59 Grovbolle wrote: I haven't watched MoW. Seems like a way to try to train as hard as koreans, without doing so, and against lesser players and on EU ladder and with lots of streaming.... I like the idea, but it seems there is flaws. Maybe it's just me. It is just you. | ||
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TAMinator
Australia2706 Posts
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FosTA
Canada154 Posts
Form where I work If someone wants to move out of our apartment buildings they need to give us 60 day notice. Even if they want to leave within the next 2 weeks they still need to pay for the full 60 days. Since Fuzer (tenant) and MoW (landlord) knew that he was going to stay their for 3 months then he needs to pay what they assigned for. Its a shame that people cant get their money back but the tenant is legally obligated to pay for the amount they set on. | ||
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artosismermaid
213 Posts
On September 14 2012 01:14 LgNFosTA wrote: My view on if he should get him money back... I feel that when he moved into the House he was set on stay for a 3 month stunt. When moving into any normal apartment or when renting house from a landlord, you need to pay the amount you say you will stay for. Form where I work If someone wants to move out of our apartment buildings they need to give us 60 day notice. Even if they want to leave within the next 2 weeks they still need to pay for the full 60 days. Since Fuzer (tenant) and MoW (landlord) knew that he was going to stay their for 3 months then he needs to pay what they assigned for. Its a shame that people cant get their money back but the tenant is legally obligated to pay for the amount they set on. that seems shady, most place have you pay first and last months rent and maybe you pay them in post-dated cheques for the months in between | ||
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zimz
United States510 Posts
On September 13 2012 18:55 Peksi wrote: The best part definitely was when the MoW boss denied that he had received the payment for the 2nd month but later tried to blackmail Fuzer to not reveal the story. No amount of fluff and PR statements can explain that, disgusting. I hope everything will work out for you Fuzer, you are a cool guy.  good point. | ||
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B.I.G.
3251 Posts
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FosTA
Canada154 Posts
On September 14 2012 01:18 artosismermaid wrote: that seems shady, most place have you pay first and last months rent and maybe you pay them in post-dated cheques for the months in between Anywhere with a month to month lease runs how I have describe. You are thinking of a set year rate. I have live/worked at a lot of apartment/renters places, I feel that I have a bit of insight on how it works. Edit: Spelling | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
Guess you people don't care if the community becomes known more for drama than anything else. As for me, it's Starcraft 2 that I care about . | ||
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
On September 14 2012 01:20 B.I.G. wrote: A good lawyer would year him to shreds I think care to elaborate? | ||
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ensign_lee
United States1178 Posts
On September 14 2012 01:23 Doodsmack wrote: So silly that this has been blown out of proportion so much. Honestly who gives a FUCK about this minor story? Just let the parties resolve their issue and move on. There's nothing more to be said, the issue is done. Fuzer made this thread expressly for the purpose of getting his rent money back, and now half the community thinks it's a major crisis apparently lol. You honestly are up in arms over some rent money, some unhealthy food, and a contract THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY NEGOTIATED WITH THE ORIGINAL GUESTS AND AGREEABLE TO ALL OF THEM? If you dibt like the MoW dont live there lol, its a privately run house. Guess you people don't care if the community becomes known more for drama than anything else. As for me, it's Starcraft 2 that I care about .except that the bolded part isn't true. Obviousl yFuzer didn't agree and that's why he didnt' sign the contract and that's why he was reticent to do so in the first place, with all the shady clauses in there. ...did you miss the entire point of the OP? | ||
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Brainfart
Germany91 Posts
Not because they have read anything or have any insight, just because they like their pitchforks. Comprehensive reading fails. What is this with the cuttings from streaming revenue? WHAT IS THIS, BURN THEM! And it turns out there is the possibility it could be profit for both sides overall... who cares, where is my pitchfork. Why read more then the first 2 pages of a thread, or even browse some pages in the middle.. I already have my opinion. Seriously, none has any true insight. Totally blown out of proportion. People TOTALLY need to stop that and wait a couple of hours before posting. And even then they should overthink if it might be possible that their own insight is... well, that they have no clue what is going on exactly. Might turn out it is no biggy. Well, guess that is not as funny as pitchforks. | ||
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
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DDie
Brazil2369 Posts
And then they jump right in to interviews with two pros saying how the computers are good and how they are preparing for tournaments, what that has to do with anything? Seriously, if you have the money to make a project like this you should get a new PR ASAP. | ||
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
On September 14 2012 01:32 Brainfart wrote: Someone posts anything including some kind of drama, and then the mob raises the pitchforks. Not because they have read anything or have any insight, just because they like their pitchforks. Comprehensive reading fails. What is this with the cuttings from streaming revenue? WHAT IS THIS, BURN THEM! And it turns out there is the possibility it could be profit for both sides overall... who cares, where is my pitchfork. Why read more then the first 2 pages of a thread, or even browse some pages in the middle.. I already have my opinion. Seriously, none has any true insight. Totally blown out of proportion. People TOTALLY need to stop that and wait a couple of hours before posting. And even then they should overthink if it might be possible that their own insight is... well, that they have no clue what is going on exactly. Might turn out it is no biggy. Well, guess that is not as funny as pitchforks. since you have browsed more than a few pages in the middle why dont you enlighten us on the important informative posts that the comunity is missing? Instead you are just dramatizing about dramatizing. The irony. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On September 14 2012 01:30 ensign_lee wrote: except that the bolded part isn't true. Obviousl yFuzer didn't agree and that's why he didnt' sign the contract and that's why he was reticent to do so in the first place, with all the shady clauses in there. ...did you miss the entire point of the OP? Fuzer wasnt one of the original guests. You don't seem like a very informed pitchfork wielder...shocker. | ||
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Brainfart
Germany91 Posts
On September 14 2012 01:40 Cheerio wrote: since you have browsed more than a few pages in the middle why dont you enlighten us on the important informative posts that the comunity is missing? Instead you are just dramatizing about dramatizing. The irony. If this would be the only thread this is happening in I maybe would do you that favor. But it isnt, jumping a bandwagon isnt something new. It is a total mess, any valid information is hidden between posts making assumptions. If you read my post carefully you get a hint what posts I could be pointing at (they take my stream money). Yet I am just saying not everything is black or white, and starting the hate before a couple of hours passed arent doing any good. Never. Your post doesnt make you look smart or anything, just putting oil in fire. | ||
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Pimpmuckl
Germany528 Posts
On September 13 2012 20:39 Inori wrote: Why is there a required streaming clause in the first place? Why is there 10 years non-compete clause? Why are above two disclosed only after a player gets to see his contract? (And in case of Fuzer, only after a player moves in) Was Fuzer lying about practice schedule? Are coaches, physchologists and massagist available to players? Why is food so shitty, while what advertised was a specifically designed diet? Why was Fuzer not allowed to consult details of contract with his lawyer? You had no legal grounds to ask for lawyers license. I would really like to see those questions answered. From the "Boss" or MoW official. | ||
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rd
United States2586 Posts
On September 14 2012 01:23 Doodsmack wrote: So silly that this has been blown out of proportion so much. Honestly who gives a FUCK about this minor story? Just let the parties resolve their issue and move on. There's nothing more to be said, the issue is done. Fuzer made this thread expressly for the purpose of getting his rent money back, and now half the community thinks it's a major crisis apparently lol. You honestly are up in arms over some rent money, some unhealthy food, and a contract THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY NEGOTIATED WITH THE ORIGINAL GUESTS AND AGREEABLE TO ALL OF THEM? If you dibt like the MoW dont live there lol, its a privately run house. Guess you people don't care if the community becomes known more for drama than anything else. As for me, it's Starcraft 2 that I care about .Issue isn't really 'done.' Fuzer released it to the public and MoW had to respond. Publically. Not the community's fault when someone air's their dirty laundry into a forum that likes drama -- and when Fuzer made this thread "expressly" to get his money back, he used the community to rally support, i.e. people who will form an opinion, plant a flag on either side then argue with the opposing view point. It's what forums do, and that was the intent: to blow this "out of proportion," giving MoW bad press, placing an incentive to give the money back or they'd fall further from the community's grace. | ||
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