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Tidus Mino
United Kingdom1108 Posts
http://i.imgur.com/eWzJM.jpg New Star Hoseo now have the roster  jjakji TassadarSculp SealBrave SalvatioNWith 2 players rumoured to be joining as a result of their recruitment tournament, The team has taken some major hits, but lets hope they can rise from the ashes | ||
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Kluey
Canada1197 Posts
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Waxangel
United States33238 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Pjorren
Sweden777 Posts
Haha sorry I only read the first two comments in the image xD User was warned for this post | ||
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imMUTAble787
United States680 Posts
On September 10 2012 02:08 Waxangel wrote: the fact they've managed to hold on to Jjakji is either a miracle or a horrible indictment of how bad foreign teams are at choosing Korean talent to recruit Why can't it be both ? Lol. Isn't San the protoss that Artosis was calling the 'whack-a-mole' protoss a long time ago in the GSL ? If so, then he has definitely put out some entertaining games. Good luck to him. | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36996 Posts
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Asha
United Kingdom38158 Posts
On September 10 2012 02:10 imMUTAble787 wrote: Why can't it be both ? Lol. Isn't San the protoss that Artosis was calling the 'whack-a-mole' protoss a long time ago in the GSL ? If so, then he has definitely put out some entertaining games. Good luck to him. Yes. After that series vs sC with the massive back and forth wars of warp in storm vs relentless bio aggression. Might have to go back and watch that now. Best of luck San, even if I'm sad Jjakji has even less chances in GSTL now. | ||
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Aunvilgod
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pPingu
Switzerland2892 Posts
On September 10 2012 02:08 Waxangel wrote: the fact they've managed to hold on to Jjakji is either a miracle or a horrible indictment of how bad foreign teams are at choosing Korean talent to recruit Probably both | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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Tidus Mino
United Kingdom1108 Posts
On September 10 2012 02:11 SeeKeR wrote: ...... T-T NSH is in a tough spot right now but... they do have something big nobody seems to have noticed *cough* look at their jerseys *cough* | ||
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dextrin303
Sweden320 Posts
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
On September 10 2012 02:08 Waxangel wrote: the fact they've managed to hold on to Jjakji is either a miracle or a horrible indictment of how bad foreign teams are at choosing Korean talent to recruit Who would you choose to recruit from players who are attainable? MMA? | ||
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Kamwah
United Kingdom724 Posts
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Akinokaze
Australia326 Posts
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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Waxangel
United States33238 Posts
On September 10 2012 02:17 revel8 wrote: Who would you choose to recruit from players who are attainable? MMA? did I tell you the story where no one courted taeja except liquid :O? | ||
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
On September 10 2012 02:08 Waxangel wrote: the fact they've managed to hold on to Jjakji is either a miracle or a horrible indictment of how bad foreign teams are at choosing Korean talent to recruit exactly what I was thinking, Jjakji is a beast and so underrated | ||
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arew
Lithuania1861 Posts
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Tidus Mino
United Kingdom1108 Posts
On September 10 2012 02:20 arew wrote: As Tidus was talking to him, could it also mean WWSan? nono i'm just a NSHS Fanboy! from way before I was in WW ^_^ | ||
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NoGasfOu
United States1117 Posts
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
Let's all watch their GSTL match next week, it might be their last. Also, there are so many Koreans as free agents out there (basically since OGS dissolved there is a big oversaturation), so if you aren't a popular streamer or Code S level it's gonna be hard to find a foreign team. Good luck to ManZenith anyways, but I'm not the most optimistic about it. | ||
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Broodlings
United States157 Posts
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Tidus Mino
United Kingdom1108 Posts
On September 10 2012 02:26 ACrow wrote: NS Hoseo not looking very healthy Let's all watch their GSTL match next week, it might be their last. Also, there are so many Koreans as free agents out there (basically since OGS dissolved there is a big oversaturation), so if you aren't a popular streamer or Code S level it's gonna be hard to find a foreign team. Good luck to ManZenith anyways, but I'm not the most optimistic about it. They are far from disbanding, no need to worry. From a structural point of view they are in the best shape they have ever been On September 10 2012 02:26 Broodlings wrote: Why is everyone leaving? Did Sting, Sage and Seal all leave for the same reason? Seal is still on the team | ||
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SilSol
Sweden2744 Posts
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Master of DalK
Canada1797 Posts
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NoGasfOu
United States1117 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On September 10 2012 02:08 Waxangel wrote: the fact they've managed to hold on to Jjakji is either a miracle or a horrible indictment of how bad foreign teams are at choosing Korean talent to recruit I do believe I read somewhere that jjakji, seal and tassadar are bffs so they want to stick together on hoseo I suppose. | ||
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SkelA
Macedonia13032 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On September 10 2012 02:35 SkelA wrote: Had no idea Brave left KHAN to join this team. He must be kicking his balls right now. I'm certain it's just someone else, Brave plays LoL. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On September 10 2012 02:20 NotSorry wrote: exactly what I was thinking, Jjakji is a beast and so underrated Jjakji was really underrated at first, then he won a GSL (which many consider more or less of a fluke nowadays, and honestly it's not that far-fetched) at which point he got massively popular. And I will agree, that finals vs Leenock was very sick, but since then he has been quite underwhelming for a champion. Solid, but most definitely underwhelming. So he's went from underrated, to overrated, to underrated once more. As for San, I was never really a big fan of him although I am grateful that he contributed to the removal of the Khaydarin amulet. Hope he does find a foreign team that suits him and maybe he will find the drive to become a real contender once more like he was early on in 2011? We'll see. | ||
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Dankleteer
United States1430 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On September 10 2012 02:33 NoGasfOu wrote: People should stop worrying about Korean teams disbanding and start worrying more for foreign teams. They're falling left and right like fruit flies. The only Korean team to disband so far is oGs while foreign teams just keep droping like bombs falling out of the sky. We've lost a lot of Korean teams actually, not sure how long you've been around. Zenex also disbanded even more recently than OGS and Startale acquired their best players. | ||
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NeMeSiS3
Canada2972 Posts
On September 10 2012 02:20 Waxangel wrote: did I tell you the story where no one courted taeja except liquid :O? lol | ||
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S_SienZ
1878 Posts
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NoGasfOu
United States1117 Posts
On September 10 2012 02:56 Dodgin wrote: We've lost a lot of Korean teams actually, not sure how long you've been around. Zenex also disbanded even more recently than OGS and Startale acquired their best players. It's more like 2 teams joing together. Had Zenex not joined Startale they would still have survived; but just in a tough position that's all. | ||
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Zeroxk
Norway1244 Posts
On September 10 2012 02:33 NoGasfOu wrote: People should stop worrying about Korean teams disbanding and start worrying more for foreign teams. They're falling left and right like fruit flies. The only Korean team to disband so far is oGs while foreign teams just keep droping like bombs falling out of the sky. Huh? What major foreign teams have disbanded? I'm talking major, not some rinky dink clan that played in IPTL once | ||
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
Damn it. | ||
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canikizu
4860 Posts
On September 10 2012 02:58 S_SienZ wrote: jjakji the Steven Gerrard of HoSeo. holy sh!t, that sounds so right. | ||
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Kluey
Canada1197 Posts
On September 10 2012 02:20 Waxangel wrote: did I tell you the story where no one courted taeja except liquid :O? It's because teams like to recruit personalities, not talent. | ||
CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On September 10 2012 02:08 Waxangel wrote: the fact they've managed to hold on to Jjakji is either a miracle or a horrible indictment of how bad foreign teams are at choosing Korean talent to recruit We are talking about a world where the recruiting competition for a certain Korean terran (who was going to be a top 3 player in the world, no matter who picked him up) was...less than ferocious. Foreign management in general seems shoddy when it comes to distinguishing different levels of Korean talent. | ||
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eScaper-tsunami
Canada313 Posts
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FlukyS
Ireland485 Posts
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NoGasfOu
United States1117 Posts
On September 10 2012 03:06 FlukyS wrote: Its ridiculous that Jjakji and Tassidar haven't been poached by now. Jjakji can win any tournament if he was on a team with good practice partners. And Tassidar is a great sniper for team leagues since he can take down more or less any protoss in the world at the moment. I just find it amazing that players like that stay on such a small team that probably doesn't offer them anything except a team house and food. Housing and food is at least better than receiving mousepad and keyboard and have to live in mommy's house. | ||
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Headnoob
Australia2108 Posts
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Waxangel
United States33238 Posts
On September 10 2012 02:34 Fusilero wrote: I do believe I read somewhere that jjakji, seal and tassadar are bffs so they want to stick together on hoseo I suppose. ok I'll file that as "minor miracle" | ||
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nkr
Sweden5451 Posts
altho that means someone has to be suarez, and i dont think nshoseo wants to be associated with such people | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On September 10 2012 03:11 nkr wrote: altho that means someone has to be suarez, and i dont think nshoseo wants to be associated with such people Vanvanth can be suarez. Well that does make it kind of confusing, surely that can't be a bad thing for a rich team with money to spend "Buy a GSL champion today and get a free team league beast and team league sniper/ code A finalist with it!" | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
(I can dream...) | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
I don't think they will disband but wouldn't be surprised if they merge with some other team. Overall I think it's good,I don't see the Korean starcraft2 scene having enough resources and fan base to support more than 6 teams(independent of kespa). | ||
Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
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Secret05
United States342 Posts
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TBone-
United States2309 Posts
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
On September 10 2012 02:08 Waxangel wrote: the fact they've managed to hold on to Jjakji is either a miracle or a horrible indictment of how bad foreign teams are at choosing Korean talent to recruit Liquid'Hero and Liquid'Taeja would beg to differ. Besides, is Jjakji really that hot a player? He won a GSL to be sure, but his play of late doesn't seem to belong in Code S- indeed, it wasn't good enough to land him in Code S this season. | ||
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DiMano
Korea (South)2066 Posts
On September 10 2012 02:35 SkelA wrote: Had no idea Brave left KHAN to join this team. He must be kicking his balls right now. NSH.Brave aka Blanca and his wiki page is http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Brave | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On September 10 2012 03:29 Zato-1 wrote: Liquid'Hero and Liquid'Taeja would beg to differ. Besides, is Jjakji really that hot a player? He won a GSL to be sure, but his play of late doesn't seem to belong in Code S- indeed, it wasn't good enough to land him in Code S this season. Jjakji played some sick games in the GSTL a couple of days ago, he's still good enough to be in Code S easily. He just didn't get through the group which happens to a lot of players who deserve Code S. Creator didn't make it through his up/down group even though he just won WCS Korea and TSL4. edit: also beat Taeja in WCG Korea. | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
I do agree NSHS needs to beat Fnatic for the 8th GSTL spot. Not doing so would be... embarassing. | ||
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LeLfe
France3160 Posts
On September 10 2012 02:15 Tidus Mino wrote: but... they do have something big nobody seems to have noticed *cough* look at their jerseys *cough* I must bemissing something but I don't see anything on their jersey :< | ||
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Tidus Mino
United Kingdom1108 Posts
On September 10 2012 03:34 LeLfe wrote: I must bemissing something but I don't see anything on their jersey :< you sure? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/SalvatioN | ||
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HolyExlxF
United States256 Posts
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Gosi
Sweden9072 Posts
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LeLfe
France3160 Posts
On September 10 2012 03:37 Tidus Mino wrote: you sure? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/SalvatioN The madcatz thing is not necessarily bigs, is it? | ||
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Waxangel
United States33238 Posts
On September 10 2012 03:14 Dodgin wrote: Jjakji could be EG.Puma 2.0 of the foreign scene if he was being sent to a lot of events, sucks that he doesn't get any opportunities. I think IPL4 is the only thing he ever went to and that was because he won a free trip from the IPL tournament of champions or whatever it was. sorry, TheStC and SuperNoVa are already taking that spot | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On September 10 2012 02:13 Torte de Lini wrote: NSHS losing players slowly but surely. very insightful post | ||
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DiMano
Korea (South)2066 Posts
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Mortal
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B.I.G.
3251 Posts
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DiMano
Korea (South)2066 Posts
On September 10 2012 03:50 Mortal wrote: Just need to get Seal and jjakji on a solid team. The disbandment of NSH will be my 3rd saddest day after losing ZeNEX and oGs. In this case i can only be happy only if NSH merges with Prime who also have a small number of players. | ||
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Tidus Mino
United Kingdom1108 Posts
On September 10 2012 03:43 LeLfe wrote: The madcatz thing is not necessarily bigs, is it?  | ||
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sVnteen
Germany2238 Posts
On September 10 2012 02:07 Kluey wrote: He was streaming with ESCDaisy''s account the other day. Maybe they're friends and he's possibly joining ESC? ESC? they have goody daisy and jaxx so imo san wouldn't really fit in there goody has been with esc since sc2 (or so i think) and daisy came to them as a totally unknown "random korean" I don't think they would take san into the team tbh | ||
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LeLfe
France3160 Posts
On September 10 2012 04:00 sVnteen wrote: ESC? they have goody daisy and jaxx so imo san wouldn't really fit in there goody has been with esc since sc2 (or so i think) and daisy came to them as a totally unknown "random korean" I don't think they would take san into the team tbh Millenium San ? | ||
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D_K_night
Canada615 Posts
Regarding jjakji, without him, I'm not sure where NOSEO would be. Maybe the foreign teams want to homegrow more talent first, especially with the expansion around the corner. | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
not to say that it isn't the best choice for San. | ||
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red4ce
United States7313 Posts
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On September 10 2012 02:20 Waxangel wrote: did I tell you the story where no one courted taeja except liquid :O? Would have been 0 teams had I not got involved. Foreign teams SUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK at talent scouting. | ||
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HeeroFX
United States2704 Posts
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Megabuster123
Canada1837 Posts
It was ridiculous that liquid was the only team that went for him. He used to rip it up in those weeklies. | ||
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TheRealNanMan
United States1471 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On September 10 2012 04:56 Diamond wrote: Would have been 0 teams had I not got involved. Foreign teams SUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK at talent scouting. Diamond confirmed no.1 scout SC2. | ||
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
On September 10 2012 03:31 Dodgin wrote: Jjakji played some sick games in the GSTL a couple of days ago, he's still good enough to be in Code S easily. He just didn't get through the group which happens to a lot of players who deserve Code S. Creator didn't make it through his up/down group even though he just won WCS Korea and TSL4. edit: also beat Taeja in WCG Korea. I'm not sure it's fair to compare Creator, who BARELY didn't make it through his Up/Down matches (he got into the tie-breakers for his group) to Jjakji who was the punching bag for his Up/Down group and didn't manage to win a single game. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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amazingoopah
United States1925 Posts
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MadJack
Peru357 Posts
On September 10 2012 02:08 Waxangel wrote: the fact they've managed to hold on to Jjakji is either a miracle or a horrible indictment of how bad foreign teams are at choosing Korean talent to recruit I dont think its that. Koreans tend to be more loyal to their teams, not everyone thinks like stephano :D | ||
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
On September 10 2012 02:20 NotSorry wrote: exactly what I was thinking, Jjakji is a beast and so underrated Sculp looked really good last GSTL too. There is actually a lot of talent on NSH. | ||
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Terran5
Germany41 Posts
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lastshadow
United States1372 Posts
Their finances are really well set, and ultimately the condition of everything regarding them is good too. They have one of the best (if not the very best) practice regime that I know of, of all the SC2 GSL teams, Slayers used to be the former a few months ago though. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
Been doing it since beta, too bad teams think that having a talent scout should be free, I applied to about every team. coL was the only ones that even offered more than a pat on the back, but it was still a weak deal. One day they will wake up and realize they all need one, very very badly. | ||
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MichaelDonovan
United States1453 Posts
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yoigen
Germany369 Posts
On September 10 2012 04:56 Diamond wrote: Would have been 0 teams had I not got involved. Foreign teams SUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK at talent scouting. Why are you so full of yourself? | ||
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sam!zdat
United States5559 Posts
NEED SOME MEAT ON YOUR BONES CHILE | ||
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BuddhaMonk
781 Posts
ManZenith fighting! | ||
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F1rstAssau1t
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Tobblish
Sweden6404 Posts
I have no idea how NSH do their businesses either , do the players get a salary or get their education paid? Since their only sponsor is a college. Their affiliation with NsP is something I've always been fascinated by as well. | ||
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Fluffboll
Sweden516 Posts
Full of himself? The post you quoted stated the truth. It's thanks to him Taeja is on Liquid and foreign teams are absolutely horrible at scouting out talent. | ||
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
If this is the reason for him leaving then it is no reflection on NSHS but merely San moving into a new stage of his life. | ||
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BuddhaMonk
781 Posts
On September 10 2012 06:50 revel8 wrote: I hesitate to say this but on Reddit (no laughing please) someone is claiming San is moving to the UK to study, presumably at University. This would explain why San is leaving his team. The new University terms are starting in just over a week in the UK, so the timing fits. If this is the reason for him leaving then it is no reflection on NSHS but merely San moving into a new stage of his life. That's usually how it goes but everyone always loves to search for a deeper meaning. | ||
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TR
2320 Posts
. gl to both San and NSHS. | ||
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aRyuujin
United States5049 Posts
look to see him back soon | ||
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ES.Genie
Germany1370 Posts
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On September 10 2012 07:33 aRyuujin wrote: Isn't this like the second time San is leaving NSHS lol look to see him back soon I don't think he ever left but just didn't played. | ||
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Dontkillme
Korea (South)806 Posts
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mongmong
Korea (South)1389 Posts
Re-joined NSHoseo, then left again????? He is not very likely to be picked up by a foreign team. | ||
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aRyuujin
United States5049 Posts
On September 10 2012 08:19 Dontkillme wrote: Seems like JJaKji is the only player on the team that is gonna be winning tourneys. I'm honestly surprised he's still on the team. If I were EG or coL I'd have picked him up for sure. He's the youngest ever GSL champion, and though he's slumping right now, it seems like his stock is going up in the long term | ||
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WigglingSquid
5194 Posts
However, I also think that jjakji is not exactly doing a favour to himself by staying on a team where he lacks equally skilled practice partners and which can't afford to send its players overseas. Besides, how much room will be left for a small all-friends-team when KeSPA eventually comes crashing down in all tournaments? As per korean talent being ignored by the other teams, I am under the impression that most teams aren't interested in investing in talent (or even proven players) if they are outside their lil' clique of friends. Nobody was interested in Taeja (who practiced from home) despite his performance and promising victories, but Clide was picked up instantly... just to leave a few months later to become, predictably, a coach. I suppose that money is quite a problem in Korean SC2. | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
There must be some reason jjakji is staying that we are not seeing; maybe said reason can help them stay alive. | ||
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189984268
Canada299 Posts
Hope Jjakji's all kill | ||
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CabinEssence
35 Posts
On September 10 2012 09:54 The_Templar wrote: NSHS will not disband unless they are unable to get new members. There must be some reason jjakji is staying that we are not seeing; maybe said reason can help them stay alive. I think he's just happy with the situation as it it - good friendships with coach and players alike. We should be glad that players aren't always looking for the biggest pay day to fill their bank accounts all the time. Though on the other hand, I can sort of see why Hoseo can become a less attractive prospect for budding pro players. When Artosis visited, it was basically two big rooms - a practice area and the other a mass communal style bedroom. It was situated somewhere within a university campus. Even if the conditions are basically the same throughout pro houses in Korea, at least the others have a sense of home with where they are staying. I can see players who lose heart start to feel like they're trapped in a prison like environment. | ||
GTR
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SHOOG
United States1639 Posts
I had a hard time handling the loss of oGs. Please don't put me through that again | ||
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MegaFonzie
Australia1084 Posts
As with Sage, I'll continue to follow San wherever he ends up, hopefully he can find himself a good deal and be happy wherever he goes. | ||
tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Also, I always thought San was terrible, so I hope NSHS's two new recruits are more promising! | ||
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OptimusYale
Korea (South)1005 Posts
I mean, I know he beasted up, but I will never forget those days Best of luck on hios second attempt at getting a team | ||
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
On September 10 2012 11:43 OptimusYale wrote: It's san the guy who got cannon rushed twice and lost a bo3 in 10 minutes? I mean, I know he beasted up, but I will never forget those days Best of luck on hios second attempt at getting a team San is the guy who has been given 2 groups of death in his career where he was considered so unlikely to make it out that no one even considered it a possibility. He has been 2-0 in those scenerios. | ||
TheEmulator
28084 Posts
On September 10 2012 11:44 Adreme wrote: San is the guy who has been given 2 groups of death in his career where he was considered so unlikely to make it out that no one even considered it a possibility. He has been 2-0 in those scenerios. Pretty badass lol. | ||
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dyDrawer
Canada438 Posts
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
On September 10 2012 11:42 tree.hugger wrote: Good discussion gentlemen. We'll call it a draw. Also, I always thought San was terrible, so I hope NSHS's two new recruits are more promising! When San puts in the hours he's easily one of the smartest Protoss players around with a unique style. His mechanics aren't a strong point, but he's clever enough to outsmart anyone. Of course, he's still probably not a top 10 Protoss, but his intelligence makes him a valuable asset for team league and I imagine he's good to have for discussion in house. | ||
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
On September 10 2012 11:43 OptimusYale wrote: It's san the guy who got cannon rushed twice and lost a bo3 in 10 minutes? Yep. And Artosis nick-named him Sad Zenith! Lol He came good later though. | ||
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Uquu
Finland474 Posts
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bittman
Australia8759 Posts
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