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boxman22
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada430 Posts
September 07 2012 11:45 GMT
#201
On September 07 2012 18:48 speknek wrote:
Although it's a good change, your ranking is still inaccurate and I don't understand why they don't just show your mmr. If it somehow scares off casuals, just put it somewhere hard to find or requestable by a /rating ingame or whatever.

I really have no idea why they don't do this. Has Dustin Browder or anyone ever answered why?
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
September 07 2012 11:52 GMT
#202
On September 07 2012 20:35 pallad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 14:08 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
Great news!I'm lovin it...now if they would just give our Win/Lose ratio back i'm a happy man.


Why you need it.. ? You cant make simple math .. ?
From patch 1.5 you can see in profile " games played this season" , and in ladder window he see wins.
Its very simple to plus/minus then , and you have your win ratio.


Games played includes customs and XvX, rather than just 1v1, so there's no way to tell your w/l ratio.
LRSL 2014 Finalist! PartinG | Mvp | Bomber | Creator | NaNiwa | herO
pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 11:54:51
September 07 2012 11:53 GMT
#203
On September 07 2012 20:52 Yonnua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 20:35 pallad wrote:
On September 07 2012 14:08 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
Great news!I'm lovin it...now if they would just give our Win/Lose ratio back i'm a happy man.


Why you need it.. ? You cant make simple math .. ?
From patch 1.5 you can see in profile " games played this season" , and in ladder window he see wins.
Its very simple to plus/minus then , and you have your win ratio.


Games played includes customs and XvX, rather than just 1v1, so there's no way to tell your w/l ratio.


No , "Games played this season" are only ladder games. Go play custom , and you gonna see that this game will be NOT added , to Games played this season
SC 2 -LingsLover- EU -- Jaedong , NesTea , Nerchio , DRG , Moon , Oz , Tarson , Scarlett -- Dota 2 Pallad EU- NaVi - LGD
nebula.
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Sweden1431 Posts
September 07 2012 11:55 GMT
#204
On September 07 2012 20:53 pallad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 20:52 Yonnua wrote:
On September 07 2012 20:35 pallad wrote:
On September 07 2012 14:08 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
Great news!I'm lovin it...now if they would just give our Win/Lose ratio back i'm a happy man.


Why you need it.. ? You cant make simple math .. ?
From patch 1.5 you can see in profile " games played this season" , and in ladder window he see wins.
Its very simple to plus/minus then , and you have your win ratio.


Games played includes customs and XvX, rather than just 1v1, so there's no way to tell your w/l ratio.


No , "Games played this season" are only ladder games. Go play custom , and you gonna see that this game will be NOT added , to Games played this season


2v2, 3v3 and 4v4 also have ladders.

Is the "games played this season" only for 1v1 though?
I miss you July ~~~ I was in PonyTales #7 wooho!
pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
September 07 2012 11:58 GMT
#205
On September 07 2012 20:55 nebula. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 20:53 pallad wrote:
On September 07 2012 20:52 Yonnua wrote:
On September 07 2012 20:35 pallad wrote:
On September 07 2012 14:08 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
Great news!I'm lovin it...now if they would just give our Win/Lose ratio back i'm a happy man.


Why you need it.. ? You cant make simple math .. ?
From patch 1.5 you can see in profile " games played this season" , and in ladder window he see wins.
Its very simple to plus/minus then , and you have your win ratio.


Games played includes customs and XvX, rather than just 1v1, so there's no way to tell your w/l ratio.


No , "Games played this season" are only ladder games. Go play custom , and you gonna see that this game will be NOT added , to Games played this season


2v2, 3v3 and 4v4 also have ladders.

Is the "games played this season" only for 1v1 though?


Ah.. i didnt think of that.., me for example only play 1vs1 so its easy to me see my win ratio. But yes ... games played this season are ALL ladder games , and you are right , sorry for that.
SC 2 -LingsLover- EU -- Jaedong , NesTea , Nerchio , DRG , Moon , Oz , Tarson , Scarlett -- Dota 2 Pallad EU- NaVi - LGD
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
September 07 2012 11:59 GMT
#206
This is a great change!
nebula.
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Sweden1431 Posts
September 07 2012 12:01 GMT
#207
On September 07 2012 20:58 pallad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 20:55 nebula. wrote:
On September 07 2012 20:53 pallad wrote:
On September 07 2012 20:52 Yonnua wrote:
On September 07 2012 20:35 pallad wrote:
On September 07 2012 14:08 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
Great news!I'm lovin it...now if they would just give our Win/Lose ratio back i'm a happy man.


Why you need it.. ? You cant make simple math .. ?
From patch 1.5 you can see in profile " games played this season" , and in ladder window he see wins.
Its very simple to plus/minus then , and you have your win ratio.


Games played includes customs and XvX, rather than just 1v1, so there's no way to tell your w/l ratio.


No , "Games played this season" are only ladder games. Go play custom , and you gonna see that this game will be NOT added , to Games played this season


2v2, 3v3 and 4v4 also have ladders.

Is the "games played this season" only for 1v1 though?


Ah.. i didnt think of that.., me for example only play 1vs1 so its easy to me see my win ratio. But yes ... games played this season are ALL ladder games , and you are right , sorry for that.


yeah i do too, and i think alot of people do so doesn't really matter if it includes team games or not if you don't play them. I wonder why win rates aren't shown for players below masters though. I mean, what's the reasoning behind it?
I miss you July ~~~ I was in PonyTales #7 wooho!
pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
September 07 2012 12:04 GMT
#208
On September 07 2012 21:01 nebula. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 20:58 pallad wrote:
On September 07 2012 20:55 nebula. wrote:
On September 07 2012 20:53 pallad wrote:
On September 07 2012 20:52 Yonnua wrote:
On September 07 2012 20:35 pallad wrote:
On September 07 2012 14:08 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
Great news!I'm lovin it...now if they would just give our Win/Lose ratio back i'm a happy man.


Why you need it.. ? You cant make simple math .. ?
From patch 1.5 you can see in profile " games played this season" , and in ladder window he see wins.
Its very simple to plus/minus then , and you have your win ratio.


Games played includes customs and XvX, rather than just 1v1, so there's no way to tell your w/l ratio.


No , "Games played this season" are only ladder games. Go play custom , and you gonna see that this game will be NOT added , to Games played this season


2v2, 3v3 and 4v4 also have ladders.

Is the "games played this season" only for 1v1 though?


Ah.. i didnt think of that.., me for example only play 1vs1 so its easy to me see my win ratio. But yes ... games played this season are ALL ladder games , and you are right , sorry for that.


yeah i do too, and i think alot of people do so doesn't really matter if it includes team games or not if you don't play them. I wonder why win rates aren't shown for players below masters though. I mean, what's the reasoning behind it?


It was writen many times before , and i think its the reason .
Blizzard wanna more players stick with game , so they dont show win ratio in worste leagues then masters , people rage less when they dont see , how much games they lose , yes its stupid for players , but make seanse for game company like blizzard.
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Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
September 07 2012 12:06 GMT
#209
Bah, must every map be easy to take third and hard core macro mode :S Diversity for the loss?
pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 12:12:12
September 07 2012 12:10 GMT
#210
On September 07 2012 21:06 Fjodorov wrote:
Bah, must every map be easy to take third and hard core macro mode :S Diversity for the loss?


Its good for you .. belive me . Im a zerg player and there was a time when i make alot of chesses , 2-3 base all ins , and my skill was not better and better because of that. Then i start play "only" macro games and my skill go up really fast. You learn much faster if you play more macro games.

If you dont like macro games.. you can always make 2 base all in , if you see your opponent makes third base.
SC 2 -LingsLover- EU -- Jaedong , NesTea , Nerchio , DRG , Moon , Oz , Tarson , Scarlett -- Dota 2 Pallad EU- NaVi - LGD
Kitaen
Profile Joined June 2011
Austria466 Posts
September 07 2012 12:41 GMT
#211
On September 07 2012 20:35 pallad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 14:08 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
Great news!I'm lovin it...now if they would just give our Win/Lose ratio back i'm a happy man.


Why you need it.. ? You cant make simple math .. ?
From patch 1.5 you can see in profile " games played this season" , and in ladder window he see wins.
Its very simple to plus/minus then , and you have your win ratio.

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because everyone plays only 1on1 and nothing else
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
September 07 2012 12:42 GMT
#212
Great changes imo!
Fus
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1112 Posts
September 07 2012 12:54 GMT
#213
I like it! Now just do something about the bonus pool system and i'm satisfied! You should be able to look at ones league/rank to determinate skill level and this sure helps.
NaNiwa | Innovation | Flash | DeMuslim ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
teaCher
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada521 Posts
September 07 2012 12:55 GMT
#214
On September 07 2012 21:41 Kitaen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 20:35 pallad wrote:
On September 07 2012 14:08 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
Great news!I'm lovin it...now if they would just give our Win/Lose ratio back i'm a happy man.


Why you need it.. ? You cant make simple math .. ?
From patch 1.5 you can see in profile " games played this season" , and in ladder window he see wins.
Its very simple to plus/minus then , and you have your win ratio.

[image loading]
[image loading]



because everyone plays only 1on1 and nothing else


You are being clueless, he obviously means if you are strickly a 1v1 player, then you obviously can just do math to figure out your losses. :\
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 13:02:08
September 07 2012 13:01 GMT
#215
Wonderful another season of taldarim and shakuras. Lame.

(Obviously I like the ladder changes but why repeat the same thing everyone else has)
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Starshaped
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Sweden575 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 13:05:49
September 07 2012 13:03 GMT
#216
Bullshit, if they wanted to be transparent they would remove all the eye-candy that is league/rank. Just let me know my MMR, let me know my level, my global rank, whatever, anything but these silly leagues and divisions.

Just make the SC2 ladder like the WC3 ladder, simple and to the point, with profiles showing wins and losses for each race and win percentage as a total and for each race. Then maybe add map win percentages and frequency and other interesting data. Seriously, SC2 fails really hard in so many ways when it comes to online play.

I mean, theres no reason why games ten+ years older than SC2 should have much, MUCH better online experiences.
My Starcraft 2, gaming and e-sports-related blog: http://starshapedthoughts.blogspot.com/
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 07 2012 13:07 GMT
#217
Progress isn't a requirement for new games haha ^^ What can you say, Blizzard is Blizzard, not Valve.

Heyoka put it the best way
On September 07 2012 10:33 heyoka wrote:
At least it's a start!
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
September 07 2012 13:11 GMT
#218
after months of threads, suggestions and their "intention of using tournament viable maps" all we get is no rocks on taldarim?

the community rightfully should feel offended

Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
September 07 2012 13:13 GMT
#219
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Melwach
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany176 Posts
September 07 2012 13:28 GMT
#220
Nice, I love the changes.
Though I feel I'll be going down from top 10 % of my division to top 50 %
But we'll see. Finally some more accurate standings.
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