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AlexSmerch
Profile Joined August 2012
Russian Federation19 Posts
August 24 2012 12:31 GMT
#21
On August 24 2012 20:32 GoingGoingGone wrote:
If he goes to some other team, realistically, I'd say it's Empire (Violet recently left, could use a top foreigner Zerg) or Millenium (same situation with Stephano). On the other hand, Slivko might not want to fill in such shoes. Who knows.


I'm sure, that Empire won't pick up Slivko. They had problems with Violet because he had become greedy. Same story with Slivko.
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ssg
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1777 Posts
August 24 2012 12:32 GMT
#22
I want to point out I'm the only one on this site with the Rox swag
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
August 24 2012 12:36 GMT
#23
On August 24 2012 21:32 ssg wrote:
I want to point out I'm the only one on this site with the Rox swag


I don't think you are the only one mate
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sickle
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand656 Posts
August 24 2012 12:37 GMT
#24
On August 24 2012 21:32 ssg wrote:
I want to point out I'm the only one on this site with the Rox swag


There's a few of us
Rimak
Profile Joined January 2012
Denmark434 Posts
August 24 2012 12:43 GMT
#25
RoX.Kis is really great team, all the guys that enter it really show improvements over time.
Slivko did improve, by a lot, but he must understand that team also participated in his growth,so I really think that there should be a compromiss.
But anyway...
EG.SlivkO, oh no wait, he still didn't won the DH.
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Kompicek
Profile Joined May 2008
Czech Republic245 Posts
August 24 2012 12:48 GMT
#26
This is very unprofessionally handled, CEO and other members of the team made a very bad image about the player eventhough he has been with them for a long time. That should stay between the team and the player, not to post it to community in this way. I believe there should be an apology after theese statements.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 24 2012 12:51 GMT
#27
That's too bad. wonder who will pick him up?
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Shadow_Dog
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada427 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 14:59:14
August 24 2012 12:59 GMT
#28
That sucks...damn. He's like the best RUS Z. I will make a translation if still needed when I get out of bed.

RoX.KIS.Bruce - General Director
Sad to say, but we are forced to say goodbye to Artem. There are many reasons for this, but main - the player wants to receive more [money], without working with the community. We were ready to make better terms, only if he would regularly stream and promote partners [sponsors]; but for Artem (and a whole category of players) want to just play and receive a growing salary, and travel to all foreign tournaments. Sadly, for the team and it's partners there is no financial gain in this.

Some might think that we would make exceptions for Artem and we really looked at these possibilities. Unfortunately, we have a clear system of rating labor and without streaming, making better terms would not be fair to the rest of the players. Titan, for example, has better and more results. He is more known and respected by organizers [events/sponsors I'm guessing] and the community. Fraer won more online tournaments and took third place at DreamHack Summer 2012. So allocating Slivko from others we could only do with proper work, to which Artem refused.

We hope that there comes a time when gamers will understand that you can receive something if you put in the required work, and not for what they feel, like having more experience (for which the team pays) and for that reason they start to cost more. We wish him luck.


RoX.KIS.PoDoX - Team Captain
There have been ultimatums coming from Artem about reviewing conditions about his stay at RoX.KIS. During negotiations we did not find a compromise, and as of this day Slivko no longer protects the colors of our team.

RoX.KIS.Craft - Team Manager
It has been little less than a year since Artem has joined the team. During this time had visited tournaments in Ukraine, South Korea, Brazil, Sweden, Germany, and visited few team bootcamps. From the team and the website, Artem received full and comprehensive support, but left dissatisfied by the conditions and put forward new demands. After talking with managers, we concluded that they are unacceptable. As a result, we have made the hard decision of terminating of collaboration with him. We wish him luck in his future career.


Here's the translation.
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
August 24 2012 13:03 GMT
#29
On August 24 2012 21:48 Kompicek wrote:
This is very unprofessionally handled, CEO and other members of the team made a very bad image about the player eventhough he has been with them for a long time. That should stay between the team and the player, not to post it to community in this way. I believe there should be an apology after theese statements.


i think it is ok, they gave the reason very clearly, why his request for more money was declined.
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Acronysis
Profile Joined November 2011
872 Posts
August 24 2012 13:09 GMT
#30
Interesting.

Good luck to Slivko though, i really like him as a player and he seems like a cool person too. That'd be great if he could join a team with good international connections =)
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ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
August 24 2012 13:09 GMT
#31
Sad news indeed but it's cool that the situation is explained. Goodluck to both of 'em.
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
August 24 2012 13:13 GMT
#32
On August 24 2012 22:03 ne4aJIb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 21:48 Kompicek wrote:
This is very unprofessionally handled, CEO and other members of the team made a very bad image about the player eventhough he has been with them for a long time. That should stay between the team and the player, not to post it to community in this way. I believe there should be an apology after theese statements.


i think it is ok, they gave the reason very clearly, why his request for more money was declined.

It IS very unprofessional, usually this kind of details remains private between the player and the team management. Nobody needs to know that Slivko wanted a raise and didn't get it.
They could simply have said something like "The collaboration has come to an end, thank you for representing our team in the last year, we wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors".
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sc2pal
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland624 Posts
August 24 2012 13:41 GMT
#33
good luck slivko
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
August 24 2012 13:45 GMT
#34
I think sLivko will go to team Acer or dignitas ;]
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Clarityxo
Profile Joined April 2011
Scotland174 Posts
August 24 2012 14:12 GMT
#35
I guess Acer is going to pick him up, word on the street is their Zerg could use a bit more strength.

Jokes aside, I think he'll go to Mousesports, or possibly Empire.
Paragleiber
Profile Joined June 2009
413 Posts
August 24 2012 14:29 GMT
#36
On August 24 2012 22:13 RHoudini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 22:03 ne4aJIb wrote:
On August 24 2012 21:48 Kompicek wrote:
This is very unprofessionally handled, CEO and other members of the team made a very bad image about the player eventhough he has been with them for a long time. That should stay between the team and the player, not to post it to community in this way. I believe there should be an apology after theese statements.


i think it is ok, they gave the reason very clearly, why his request for more money was declined.

It IS very unprofessional, usually this kind of details remains private between the player and the team management. Nobody needs to know that Slivko wanted a raise and didn't get it.
They could simply have said something like "The collaboration has come to an end, thank you for representing our team in the last year, we wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors".


Personally I don't agree about it being unprofessional. I think it is perfectly fine the way it was presented and for me it doesn't create a bad image of either the player or the team at all. Both sides had good reasons for their decisions that people can understand and there should be no shame about stating them like this. This also prevents any unnecessary speculation from coming up like it often does in other cases.
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Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
August 24 2012 14:32 GMT
#37
Aww he was one of my favourite players. I hope he goes somewhere good like Mouz.
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Mario1209
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1077 Posts
August 24 2012 14:33 GMT
#38
empire most likely unless acer decides they need to bolster their zerg lineup.
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dfs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Russian Federation4050 Posts
August 24 2012 14:49 GMT
#39
I believe it's for the best for Slivko. Rox already lost 3 players for the past year, it's not a good sign.
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LuckyGnomTV
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Russian Federation367 Posts
August 24 2012 14:58 GMT
#40
On August 24 2012 21:48 Kompicek wrote:
This is very unprofessionally handled, CEO and other members of the team made a very bad image about the player eventhough he has been with them for a long time. That should stay between the team and the player, not to post it to community in this way. I believe there should be an apology after theese statements.


This is not unprofessionally, this is just the way some people talk. Instead of standart "bla bla bla, thanks for everything" Bruce told everyone the thruth and this is great. People should talk the thruth instead of covering each others bad sides.
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