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Mvp and MC forfeit WCS - Page 4

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Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
August 14 2012 19:27 GMT
#61
WCS Korea is a flop as a spectator, because its just a few players and matches each day - Just smash it out already. Do it on 2 streams, stream every game and have vods. Bundle it with a proper tournament over a weekend and get it decided.

The matches are great, but it kills me getting up at 4AM so I can watch the FEW matches that are cast that day.
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
August 14 2012 19:31 GMT
#62
On August 15 2012 01:33 0neder wrote:
They have nothing to win and everything to lose by playing WCS. Even by beating Jaedong or someone like that, people would be able to see how close they are, and even if they were very far apart, people would be able to tell that MVP and MC's reign will be shortly coming to an end with HotS.


That makes no sense whatsoever btw. The forfeits look more like sponsor related obligations tbh
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
August 14 2012 19:33 GMT
#63
hmm a foreign tournament over a WCS Korea
Interesting choice
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Cenja
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden498 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-14 19:44:14
August 14 2012 19:41 GMT
#64
On August 15 2012 04:20 SeeKeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 04:09 Cenja wrote:
On August 15 2012 04:02 SeeKeR wrote:
On August 15 2012 03:53 Benjamin99 wrote:
That was kind of expected. No player can play every tournament there is.

Yeah but isn't WCS > IEM?

I think I read somewhere that Mvp is going to do something (sign stuff I guess) in a LG booth at gamescom. If that's the case I guess Mvp more or less had to go.

Well... I posted it in my OP and linked the thread for it. So you probably read it in here

Haha yeah probably, I'm not the smartest of men it would seem. But my point is that even though WCS is the bigger tournament LG wants Mvp to do signings etc at gamescom.

On August 15 2012 04:27 Grimmyman123 wrote:
WCS Korea is a flop as a spectator, because its just a few players and matches each day - Just smash it out already. Do it on 2 streams, stream every game and have vods. Bundle it with a proper tournament over a weekend and get it decided.

The matches are great, but it kills me getting up at 4AM so I can watch the FEW matches that are cast that day.

I'm of the opposite opinion, I very much prefer a tournament over several weeks. I can't watch more than a few series each day before I get bored. The level of play gets higher when the players can prepare for their games as opposed to having to play tons of games in a day. When the tournament is over a longer period of time I think we get more hype and storylines.
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TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-14 19:46:57
August 14 2012 19:42 GMT
#65
DRG, MC, MVP, NesTea, MMA, MKP are the top 6 players to ever play sc2 to date, all are out or could not qualify for WCS Korea. DAYUM

Of course who you think is better is your opinion but im putting those as the top 6 based on earnings, but I dont know if many would argue that statement anyway?

WCS Korea is a flop as a spectator, because its just a few players and matches each day - Just smash it out already. Do it on 2 streams, stream every game and have vods. Bundle it with a proper tournament over a weekend and get it decided.

The matches are great, but it kills me getting up at 4AM so I can watch the FEW matches that are cast that day.


I also agree with this. It takes place on the weekdays at 5 am for me and for a very good portion of people who watch GSL. I cannot watch every night, fortunately I have a subscription, but for those that dont I feel sorry for. They easily couldve done it in a week.
#TheOneTrueDong
Ljungblut
Profile Joined August 2012
2 Posts
August 14 2012 19:47 GMT
#66
aLive has this
Rustug
Profile Joined October 2010
1488 Posts
August 14 2012 19:50 GMT
#67
On August 15 2012 04:31 LuckyMacro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 01:33 0neder wrote:
They have nothing to win and everything to lose by playing WCS. Even by beating Jaedong or someone like that, people would be able to see how close they are, and even if they were very far apart, people would be able to tell that MVP and MC's reign will be shortly coming to an end with HotS.


That makes no sense whatsoever btw. The forfeits look more like sponsor related obligations tbh


It could be sponsors obligations like the above poster said, or Being Dudes that play video games for money, these players are just going to IEM to try an win some cash. If they could do both they would probably do both.

All I can say, SCII gives Koreans the chance to win money oversees, but the traveling hours sometimes force them to make choices.
Curious that we spend more time congratulating people who have succeeded than encouraging people who have not. 파이팅! ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ"
CableSCES
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States367 Posts
August 14 2012 20:28 GMT
#68
Man this blows... MVP and MC two of the best SC2 players in the world, won't get to truly have their shot in WCS, which imo is the biggest, most important competition that SC2 has had so far... At least let them play from remote location or something, even tho its not the most favorable conditions, its a shot.

Bummer.
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Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
August 14 2012 20:31 GMT
#69
On August 15 2012 04:27 Grimmyman123 wrote:
WCS Korea is a flop as a spectator, because its just a few players and matches each day - Just smash it out already. Do it on 2 streams, stream every game and have vods. Bundle it with a proper tournament over a weekend and get it decided.

The matches are great, but it kills me getting up at 4AM so I can watch the FEW matches that are cast that day.


I'd rather have 4 matches a day instead of an MLG style 10 hour long broadcast marathon thank you very much. Tends to make for better games and better casting. Also it's fairly obvious that the way this tournament is scheduled and laid out is to bridge a gap between GSL 3 and 4.
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
August 14 2012 21:11 GMT
#70
Really disappointed in their decisions.

Don't give a damn if IEM is easier / good money / sponsor booths there / they were already in WCS LB anyway etc etc this is meant to be the god damn World Championship as run by the people who make the fucking game.

So for the two top players all time in SC2 by earnings and GSL wins to decide to forfeit their way out of it is a massive dis-servicve IMO, it just devalues the whole competition. I can't think of any other big name SC2 player who has forfeited out after qualifying for their WCS national championship.
@followMVT
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
August 14 2012 21:13 GMT
#71
Welp, there goes my liquibet.

lololololol
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-14 21:17:22
August 14 2012 21:14 GMT
#72
On August 15 2012 06:11 MVTaylor wrote:
Really disappointed in their decisions.

Don't give a damn if IEM is easier / good money / sponsor booths there / they were already in WCS LB anyway etc etc this is meant to be the god damn World Championship as run by the people who make the fucking game.

So for the two top players all time in SC2 by earnings and GSL wins to decide to forfeit their way out of it is a massive dis-servicve IMO, it just devalues the whole competition. I can't think of any other big name SC2 player who has forfeited out after qualifying for their WCS national championship.


They shouldn't have made the WCS Korea schedule so ridiculous so that It's nearly impossible to travel while It's happening, they are not the only ones who are going to have to forfeit. Everyone going to MLG raleigh will have to forfeit when that happens too.

Seriously there was no reason to turn WCS Korea nationals into a mini GSL, It's not that important in the grand scheme of things. WCS Asia is going to be done over a weekend and the WCS grand finals will be too.
KiF1rE
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States964 Posts
August 14 2012 21:17 GMT
#73
On August 15 2012 01:00 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 00:58 AxiR wrote:
Couldn't they just have rescheduled the games?


No, they only have 3 weeks to work with. They need to get the losers bracket round 1 AND 2 out of the way this week, which means that the games can't be rescheduled.


why is only having 3 weeks a problem... Every other WCS nationals was done in a single weekend...
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
August 14 2012 21:21 GMT
#74
Good call from both players I think. Sucks that they're not playing, but hope they show us some good games at IEM ^^
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Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10382 Posts
August 14 2012 21:22 GMT
#75
aww

Oh well, hack is advancing! more mech pls! yay
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Iodem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
August 14 2012 21:28 GMT
#76
On August 15 2012 04:27 Grimmyman123 wrote:
WCS Korea is a flop as a spectator, because its just a few players and matches each day - Just smash it out already. Do it on 2 streams, stream every game and have vods. Bundle it with a proper tournament over a weekend and get it decided.

The matches are great, but it kills me getting up at 4AM so I can watch the FEW matches that are cast that day.

I can only say I disagree with you on the 'smash into one weekend' point. I'm okay with WCS Korea lasting longer.

I'm disappointed with WCS Korea being the ONLY WCS national qualifier that actually costs money to watch in a decent quality. Limiting viewers to 240p is bull. You can't even read supply numbers. And even if you upgrade to 'HD' you're still getting only 580p quality.

Top on the fact that I have to be awake at 3 in the frickin' morning or I can't watch it for free(in that glorious 240p) and that just makes me hate GOM even more for this.
If you don't like it, you can quit.
BreakfastBurrito
Profile Joined November 2011
United States893 Posts
August 14 2012 21:32 GMT
#77
Two of the best players (despite them being in LR1 haha) forfeiting so sad
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RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
August 14 2012 21:32 GMT
#78
Well for LG-IM, this kinda works out as it gives Happy another chance and it would have amounted to the same as it was a teamkill.
Someone call down the Thunder?
Necrophag1st
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States35 Posts
August 14 2012 21:41 GMT
#79
Seems like a "saving face" situation, could be incredibly wrong.
Expect Nothing Prepare for Everything
Naphal
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2099 Posts
August 14 2012 21:49 GMT
#80
germany just too tempting!

IMSK should just move here so i can get all fanboyish/stalkerish and sleep at their doorstep just to say good morning.
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