I saw on the CNN Youtube channel today two very interesting and short documentaries, and I thought TL might share my interest
"World Class gamer - Inside the life of pro-gamer MVP" - a 5 minute documentary about MVP, filmed around the time of WCG 2011. Feartures interviews with MVP, his coach, and Tasteless
and, "Gaming in South Korea: Skill or addiction?" - A 12 minute doc about the problems of gaming culture in South Korea, also features interviews with MKP, his parents, and Tasteless.
Give them a watch, mainstream coverage of SC2 (both in a positive and negative light, though there isn't much negative here) is pretty cool. Who knows, if these videos get a lot of views maybe CNN will consider doing more like this?
if this is the wrong forum for this let me know, mods.
EDIT: apparently some people are having trouble with the youtube vids (been removed/edited apparently), Here's the link to CNN for the MVP doc, I'll get around to finding the addiction one later today.
Awww damn. I was about to make my own thread about this T_T
CNN recently uploaded a trio of clips about gaming in South Korea onto their Youtube channel and official video site. Most of the SC2 content comes from last year's WCG. MVP talks about his training regime in one video, while the other video features MKP, though it also talks about gaming addiction >_>. There is also one final clip where average Koreans talk about gaming in general.
CNN recently uploaded a trio of clips about gaming in South Korea onto their Youtube channel and official video site. Most of the SC2 content comes from last year's WCG. MVP talks about his training regime in one video, while the other video features MKP, though it also talks about gaming addiction >_>. There is also one final clip where average Koreans talk about gaming in general.
I don't think Tasteless' argument that RTS gamers are inherently less prone to addiction that MMO gamers holds water. There can be addicts in both genres. I think that's the case even if you're playing SC2 purely to improve your play and be competitive. There's nothing about competition and addiction that's mutually exclusive. If you feel like you need to play the game, and you feel actual emotions such as anxiety when you're away from the game for a certain amount of time, you're addicted. Factors like that have nothing to do with the genre of game you're playing.
On August 03 2012 08:39 Doodsmack wrote: I don't think Tasteless' argument that RTS gamers are inherently less prone to addiction that MMO gamers holds water. There can be addicts in both genres. I think that's the case even if you're playing SC2 purely to improve your play and be competitive. There's nothing about competition and addiction that's mutually exclusive. If you feel like you need to play the game, and you feel actual emotions such as anxiety when you're away from the game for a certain amount of time, you're addicted. Factors like that have nothing to do with the genre of game you're playing.
I agree, but at the same time I think one of the major stigmas against gaming is that people spend all day playing for no return in the real world. Tasteless' argument may not hold water from a scientific analysis of addiction, but there's a difference between MKP and a random WoW player, even if both were addicted. One has the potential to turn their drive/addiction into something of greater value, and the other is a WoW player, which I think is point Tasteless tries to get across.
On August 03 2012 08:39 Doodsmack wrote: I don't think Tasteless' argument that RTS gamers are inherently less prone to addiction that MMO gamers holds water. There can be addicts in both genres. I think that's the case even if you're playing SC2 purely to improve your play and be competitive. There's nothing about competition and addiction that's mutually exclusive. If you feel like you need to play the game, and you feel actual emotions such as anxiety when you're away from the game for a certain amount of time, you're addicted. Factors like that have nothing to do with the genre of game you're playing.
I agree, but at the same time I think one of the major stigmas against gaming is that people spend all day playing for no return in the real world. Tasteless' argument may not hold water from a scientific analysis of addiction, but there's a difference between MKP and a random WoW player, even if both were addicted. One has the potential to turn their drive/addiction into something of greater value, and the other is a WoW player, which I think is point Tasteless tries to get across.
In fact, I don't even think we need to argue about it. It's not wrong to do something you love although you don't get anything from it.
CNN recently uploaded a trio of clips about gaming in South Korea onto their Youtube channel and official video site. Most of the SC2 content comes from last year's WCG. MVP talks about his training regime in one video, while the other video features MKP, though it also talks about gaming addiction >_>. There is also one final clip where average Koreans talk about gaming in general.
Is it just me but this videos don't work because "this video is private"; i've logged in with my YouTube account and i'm over 18 years old: + Show Spoiler +
On August 03 2012 23:48 Garnet wrote: video removed by user. Any back up?
And I was wondering. The video stopped in the middle for me, and when I was reloading it was only 2 minutes long! So that's what happens when a video is being removed while you watch it..
this is the worst immitation of journalism i've ever seen. Shame on you CNN. I work at a woodshop. I guess I'm addicted to wood then since it's what I do for a living. Fucking nonsense
On August 03 2012 08:39 Doodsmack wrote: I don't think Tasteless' argument that RTS gamers are inherently less prone to addiction that MMO gamers holds water. There can be addicts in both genres. I think that's the case even if you're playing SC2 purely to improve your play and be competitive. There's nothing about competition and addiction that's mutually exclusive. If you feel like you need to play the game, and you feel actual emotions such as anxiety when you're away from the game for a certain amount of time, you're addicted. Factors like that have nothing to do with the genre of game you're playing.
I agree, but at the same time I think one of the major stigmas against gaming is that people spend all day playing for no return in the real world. Tasteless' argument may not hold water from a scientific analysis of addiction, but there's a difference between MKP and a random WoW player, even if both were addicted. One has the potential to turn their drive/addiction into something of greater value, and the other is a WoW player, which I think is point Tasteless tries to get across.
I disagree with your approach to the argument. I think what separates MKP from the random WoW player (in the hypothetical scenario you presented where they are both addicted to their respective games), MKP isn't hurting himself. He has a team that supports him, a healthy lifestyle, and is putting the game in a context of improving his play to satisfy his passion. The random WoW player isn't keeping up with his own personal hygiene most likely (if they truly are addicted), they typically have lack of a support system, and are unmotivated in self fulfilment, only motivated by their vicarious life they lead through their game and that game's needs.
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