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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
July 26 2012 04:59 GMT
#41
Gogogogoog Flash!!!!
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-26 05:34:04
July 26 2012 05:28 GMT
#42
Looks like VODs will be on GOM for the WCG Korea prelims, they just put up a WCG2012 section on their website.

http://www.gomtv.net/2012wcg/

http://www.gomtv.net/2012wcg/news/70333

http://www.gomtv.net/forum/view.gom?topicid=223437&cid=0&kind=8
s1ege
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)123 Posts
July 26 2012 05:32 GMT
#43
Does Mvp get a seed?
SilentSC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United States505 Posts
July 26 2012 05:43 GMT
#44
Oh shit... Aphrodite vs CoCa! And omg these are stacked...
System42
Profile Joined August 2011
172 Posts
July 26 2012 05:59 GMT
#45
On July 26 2012 14:32 s1ege wrote:
Does Mvp get a seed?

Read the whole thing before talking please.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 26 2012 06:03 GMT
#46
On July 26 2012 14:32 s1ege wrote:
Does Mvp get a seed?

On July 26 2012 13:10 NHY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2012 13:02 vthree wrote:
On July 26 2012 12:56 lichter wrote:
On July 26 2012 12:53 Dodgin wrote:
I think they listed Supernova as Protoss by mistake, because I can't find his name anywhere else on there.

On July 26 2012 12:52 lichter wrote:
Is Mvp already seeded since he won last year?


Yes looks like he is seeded past the qualifiers and straight into the WCG Korea tournament.

I looked through to see if maybe all 3 representatives of Korea from 2011 were seeded but Marineking and Supernova's names are there so I guess only Mvp is seeded.


Yeah I figured he'd get seeded into the main Korea tournament. They should probably just send him straight to the WCG main tournament as Defending Champion though? Kinda weird not to have the defending champ there.


I don't think WCG did defending champ seed for BW either so it seems ok. 13 Kespa and 17 Non-Kespa = 30 players + IMMVP + 1 Kespa seed(All the top Kespa players seemed account for...) = 32 man group stage?


No, it will be 13 Kespa + 17 Non-Kespa = 30 players qualifier round 1 -> 15 players + MVP = 16 players qualifier round 2 -> Final 3 goes to WCG

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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
July 26 2012 06:37 GMT
#47
On July 26 2012 13:49 nmetasch wrote:
I'm not a fan of the segregation of brackets between Kespa and GSL players... the second Kespa players catch up this type of segregated bracketing will disapear, and should the GSL players fall behind, theres not a snowballs chance in hell that the SC2 scene will cater to the GSL players by giving them seperate bracketing... It all seems very biased, everyone is trying so hard to protect Kespas interests. I guess it's necessary though, we do need Kespa to successfully integrate into SC2 to bring over the BW viewerbase..


I actually think this is ok for the first few tournaments. We have to remember that in Korea, the BW teams have the big sponsors. As we have seen in the WCS qualifiers, although BW pros are playing well, they would be hard press to make it through mixed brackets (only Reality made it thru and a few others got to finals). Then we would basically have GSL players in OSL, WCS and WCG while Kespa players only have PL. I don't think sponsors will be too happy about that. Of course, viewer base is important as well. It is sort of like foreign tournaments holding qualifiers for each region (the server lag plays a part but let's be honest, plenty of koreans can qualify playing on EU/NA servers).

Also, this is just for the qualifiers and to make it to WCG, you need to make top 3 so I think it is fine. It is not like Kespa gets 1 of the seeds and non Kespa gets the other 2.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 26 2012 07:39 GMT
#48
schedule is a tad confusing hrmm http://leveltory.com/12874
looks like 15 bo3 though to select from 30 -> 15!
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NHY
Profile Joined October 2010
1013 Posts
July 26 2012 07:48 GMT
#49
On July 26 2012 16:39 opterown wrote:
schedule is a tad confusing hrmm http://leveltory.com/12874
looks like 15 bo3 though to select from 30 -> 15!


Yeah and it seems we will have

2 Kespa vs Kespa
4 non-Kespa vs non-Kespa
9 Kespa vs non-Kespa
OnFiRe888
Profile Joined October 2010
United States629 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-26 07:56:58
July 26 2012 07:50 GMT
#50
Wait, there are only 30 spots open in the qualifiers, and 1 goes to mvp, any idea what happened to the last spot?
edit: nvm^
They are determining all 3 seeds for the wcg grand finals this weekend? That's really unfourtunate, I liked how they did it last year where it was drawn out and every match was broadcast.
"Life isn't measured by the breaths you take, but by skill in Starcraft"
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 26 2012 08:09 GMT
#51
On July 26 2012 16:50 OnFiRe888 wrote:
Wait, there are only 30 spots open in the qualifiers, and 1 goes to mvp, any idea what happened to the last spot?
edit: nvm^
They are determining all 3 seeds for the wcg grand finals this weekend? That's really unfourtunate, I liked how they did it last year where it was drawn out and every match was broadcast.

30 spots from qualifiers --> 15 bo3 to select 15
these 15 + mvp -> play tournament to determine top3
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OnFiRe888
Profile Joined October 2010
United States629 Posts
July 26 2012 08:14 GMT
#52
On July 26 2012 17:09 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2012 16:50 OnFiRe888 wrote:
Wait, there are only 30 spots open in the qualifiers, and 1 goes to mvp, any idea what happened to the last spot?
edit: nvm^
They are determining all 3 seeds for the wcg grand finals this weekend? That's really unfourtunate, I liked how they did it last year where it was drawn out and every match was broadcast.

30 spots from qualifiers --> 15 bo3 to select 15
these 15 + mvp -> play tournament to determine top3

All of that is being done this weekend?
"Life isn't measured by the breaths you take, but by skill in Starcraft"
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 26 2012 08:16 GMT
#53
On July 26 2012 17:14 OnFiRe888 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2012 17:09 opterown wrote:
On July 26 2012 16:50 OnFiRe888 wrote:
Wait, there are only 30 spots open in the qualifiers, and 1 goes to mvp, any idea what happened to the last spot?
edit: nvm^
They are determining all 3 seeds for the wcg grand finals this weekend? That's really unfourtunate, I liked how they did it last year where it was drawn out and every match was broadcast.

30 spots from qualifiers --> 15 bo3 to select 15
these 15 + mvp -> play tournament to determine top3

All of that is being done this weekend?

i think the 30 bo3 are on august 1st, not sure about the rest though
WCS already is pretty full-on.
we'll see with further announcements i guess
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OnFiRe888
Profile Joined October 2010
United States629 Posts
July 26 2012 08:23 GMT
#54
On July 26 2012 17:16 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2012 17:14 OnFiRe888 wrote:
On July 26 2012 17:09 opterown wrote:
On July 26 2012 16:50 OnFiRe888 wrote:
Wait, there are only 30 spots open in the qualifiers, and 1 goes to mvp, any idea what happened to the last spot?
edit: nvm^
They are determining all 3 seeds for the wcg grand finals this weekend? That's really unfourtunate, I liked how they did it last year where it was drawn out and every match was broadcast.

30 spots from qualifiers --> 15 bo3 to select 15
these 15 + mvp -> play tournament to determine top3

All of that is being done this weekend?

i think the 30 bo3 are on august 1st, not sure about the rest though
WCS already is pretty full-on.
we'll see with further announcements i guess

Actually, the way I'm interpreting the page is this:
Day 1- kespa prelims
Day 2- non-kespa prelims
Day 3- first 10 bo3s (out of the 15) of the preliminary winners
Day 4- (which is oddly enough 2 days after day 3) the last 5 bo2s of the preliminary winners.
^day 4 is also not listed on the gom page or schedule, so I wonder if gom knows that this is supposed to be a 4 day qualifier.
It is unclear as to what they will do the 15 bo3 winners + MVP.
Perhaps there is hope that it will be long and drawn out like last year. =D Hopefully there will be an english stream too.
It's also weird that the 2nd group of kespa players are scheduled to be playing on aug 1. If that is true, this whole qualifier does not make sense to me. -_-
It's disappointing to see so much potential in a tournament, but terrible clarification. Hopefully stuff gets sorted out soon enough.
"Life isn't measured by the breaths you take, but by skill in Starcraft"
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-26 08:23:54
July 26 2012 08:23 GMT
#55
So many tournaments in Korea right now, funnily just when Kespa players suck and still in transition :D
Stork[gm]
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-26 08:30:44
July 26 2012 08:30 GMT
#56
On July 26 2012 17:23 OnFiRe888 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2012 17:16 opterown wrote:
On July 26 2012 17:14 OnFiRe888 wrote:
On July 26 2012 17:09 opterown wrote:
On July 26 2012 16:50 OnFiRe888 wrote:
Wait, there are only 30 spots open in the qualifiers, and 1 goes to mvp, any idea what happened to the last spot?
edit: nvm^
They are determining all 3 seeds for the wcg grand finals this weekend? That's really unfourtunate, I liked how they did it last year where it was drawn out and every match was broadcast.

30 spots from qualifiers --> 15 bo3 to select 15
these 15 + mvp -> play tournament to determine top3

All of that is being done this weekend?

i think the 30 bo3 are on august 1st, not sure about the rest though
WCS already is pretty full-on.
we'll see with further announcements i guess

Actually, the way I'm interpreting the page is this:
Day 1- kespa prelims
Day 2- non-kespa prelims
Day 3- first 10 bo3s (out of the 15) of the preliminary winners
Day 4- (which is oddly enough 2 days after day 3) the last 5 bo2s of the preliminary winners.
^day 4 is also not listed on the gom page or schedule, so I wonder if gom knows that this is supposed to be a 4 day qualifier.
It is unclear as to what they will do the 15 bo3 winners + MVP.
Perhaps there is hope that it will be long and drawn out like last year. =D Hopefully there will be an english stream too.
It's also weird that the 2nd group of kespa players are scheduled to be playing on aug 1. If that is true, this whole qualifier does not make sense to me. -_-
It's disappointing to see so much potential in a tournament, but terrible clarification. Hopefully stuff gets sorted out soon enough.

hmm
day 1 - kespa prelims
day 2 - nonkespa prelims groups 1-9
day 3 - nonkespa prelims groups 10-17 (since too many groups and also slayers/fxo are busy on day 2 with GSTL)
AND
10 BO3 (these 10 are between some kespa players and nonkespa groups 1-9)
day 4 - 5 BO3 (between nonkespa groups 10-17 and the rest of the kespa players)

i think.
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
July 26 2012 08:49 GMT
#57
On July 26 2012 17:30 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2012 17:23 OnFiRe888 wrote:
On July 26 2012 17:16 opterown wrote:
On July 26 2012 17:14 OnFiRe888 wrote:
On July 26 2012 17:09 opterown wrote:
On July 26 2012 16:50 OnFiRe888 wrote:
Wait, there are only 30 spots open in the qualifiers, and 1 goes to mvp, any idea what happened to the last spot?
edit: nvm^
They are determining all 3 seeds for the wcg grand finals this weekend? That's really unfourtunate, I liked how they did it last year where it was drawn out and every match was broadcast.

30 spots from qualifiers --> 15 bo3 to select 15
these 15 + mvp -> play tournament to determine top3

All of that is being done this weekend?

i think the 30 bo3 are on august 1st, not sure about the rest though
WCS already is pretty full-on.
we'll see with further announcements i guess

Actually, the way I'm interpreting the page is this:
Day 1- kespa prelims
Day 2- non-kespa prelims
Day 3- first 10 bo3s (out of the 15) of the preliminary winners
Day 4- (which is oddly enough 2 days after day 3) the last 5 bo2s of the preliminary winners.
^day 4 is also not listed on the gom page or schedule, so I wonder if gom knows that this is supposed to be a 4 day qualifier.
It is unclear as to what they will do the 15 bo3 winners + MVP.
Perhaps there is hope that it will be long and drawn out like last year. =D Hopefully there will be an english stream too.
It's also weird that the 2nd group of kespa players are scheduled to be playing on aug 1. If that is true, this whole qualifier does not make sense to me. -_-
It's disappointing to see so much potential in a tournament, but terrible clarification. Hopefully stuff gets sorted out soon enough.

hmm
day 1 - kespa prelims
day 2 - nonkespa prelims groups 1-9
day 3 - nonkespa prelims groups 10-17 (since too many groups and also slayers/fxo are busy on day 2 with GSTL)
AND
10 BO3 (these 10 are between some kespa players and nonkespa groups 1-9)
day 4 - 5 BO3 (between nonkespa groups 10-17 and the rest of the kespa players)

i think.

Thats only for qualis? Holy shit.
Stork[gm]
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 26 2012 09:00 GMT
#58
Feel sorry for Puma, has Inca in his bracket Inca got that E Z :D
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X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
July 26 2012 09:07 GMT
#59
creator ryung gonna be a hell of a match, rooting for creator,mkp,squirtle and parting, wouldnt mind others winning/losing as long as those 4 qualify
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-26 09:23:42
July 26 2012 09:15 GMT
#60
On July 26 2012 17:49 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2012 17:30 opterown wrote:
On July 26 2012 17:23 OnFiRe888 wrote:
On July 26 2012 17:16 opterown wrote:
On July 26 2012 17:14 OnFiRe888 wrote:
On July 26 2012 17:09 opterown wrote:
On July 26 2012 16:50 OnFiRe888 wrote:
Wait, there are only 30 spots open in the qualifiers, and 1 goes to mvp, any idea what happened to the last spot?
edit: nvm^
They are determining all 3 seeds for the wcg grand finals this weekend? That's really unfourtunate, I liked how they did it last year where it was drawn out and every match was broadcast.

30 spots from qualifiers --> 15 bo3 to select 15
these 15 + mvp -> play tournament to determine top3

All of that is being done this weekend?

i think the 30 bo3 are on august 1st, not sure about the rest though
WCS already is pretty full-on.
we'll see with further announcements i guess

Actually, the way I'm interpreting the page is this:
Day 1- kespa prelims
Day 2- non-kespa prelims
Day 3- first 10 bo3s (out of the 15) of the preliminary winners
Day 4- (which is oddly enough 2 days after day 3) the last 5 bo2s of the preliminary winners.
^day 4 is also not listed on the gom page or schedule, so I wonder if gom knows that this is supposed to be a 4 day qualifier.
It is unclear as to what they will do the 15 bo3 winners + MVP.
Perhaps there is hope that it will be long and drawn out like last year. =D Hopefully there will be an english stream too.


It's also weird that the 2nd group of kespa players are scheduled to be playing on aug 1. If that is true, this whole qualifier does not make sense to me. -_-
It's disappointing to see so much potential in a tournament, but terrible clarification. Hopefully stuff gets sorted out soon enough.

hmm
day 1 - kespa prelims
day 2 - nonkespa prelims groups 1-9
day 3 - nonkespa prelims groups 10-17 (since too many groups and also slayers/fxo are busy on day 2 with GSTL)
AND
10 BO3 (these 10 are between some kespa players and nonkespa groups 1-9)
day 4 - 5 BO3 (between nonkespa groups 10-17 and the rest of the kespa players)

i think.

Thats only for qualis? Holy shit.


Yes, last year, basically it is Code B qualifiers (but with ALL players except 8 seeds) + Code S (32 man 2 group stages, then 8 man single elim) all rolled into 1 and took like 3 months (aug 6th - Nov 13). This year, it will be slightly shorter since we will have single elim until Ro16 (not sure what happens after that) but we have Kespa players as well so the tournament is huge. The number of full time pro players in Korea is probably close to the rest of the world combined.

And MC's comment sort of makes sense. Maybe he was originally slotted for day 3 which was going to conflict with ASUS ROG. All the players going to ASUS ROG are scheduled to play on Day 2 EXCEPT Hero. Not sure what is up with that. Maybe he plans to play on Aug 1st and then head straight to the airport to make it in time for ASUS ROG on the 2nd.


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