• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 03:57
CEST 09:57
KST 16:57
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun12[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists22[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9
Community News
RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event4Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results02026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25Maestros of the Game 2 announced92026 GSL Tour plans announced15
StarCraft 2
General
https://www.facebook.com/POLLENWISEAllergyReliefCa Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) SC2 INu's Battles#15 <BO.9 2Matches> WardiTV Spring Cup SEL Masters #6 - Solar vs Classic (SC: Evo)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Pros React To: Leta vs Tulbo (ASL S21, Ro.8) [BSL22] RO16 Group A - Sunday 21:00 CEST [BSL22] RO16 Group B - Saturday 21:00 CEST
Tourneys
[BSL22] RO16 Group Stage - 02 - 10 May Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro8 Day 2
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Daigo vs Menard Best of 10 Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Diablo IV
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 3D technology/software discussion Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1710 users

OnGameNet StarLeague to be a SC2 league - Page 20

Forum Index > SC2 General
848 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 18 19 20 21 22 43 Next All
RIP BW =( no bickering please!
Xaldarian
Profile Joined February 2012
Netherlands65 Posts
June 06 2012 06:51 GMT
#381
Sad for BW will miss the last reaver going. Glad for sc2 and the future of the game. It needs this influx badly.
Those who lived in darkness have seen a great light
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
June 06 2012 06:53 GMT
#382
On June 06 2012 09:33 zyzq wrote:
this seems like a big slap in the face to Kespa players because there is no way they can compete with the current SC2 players yet.


No, this is awesome. It will force the Kespa players to play doubly hard to catch up. This means better games overall.

I cannot wait for this, we're finally going to see GOM players vs Kespa players!!!!
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
June 06 2012 06:55 GMT
#383
On June 06 2012 15:48 densha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 15:32 J1.au wrote:
It is a big mistake of the OSL not to work with the players that bring in the viewers. It's gonna be sad when it's two random SC2 pros in the OSL grand finals and barely any one in the audience.


Assuming the Kespa pros don't catch up to the current pros within the next month, it's more than likely going to be known SC2 pros in the later stages of the tournament. The current GSL players bring with them an established fan-base that will show up and watch them play (as evidenced by the audience during GSL finals).

They should still work with what they have at the moment and try to combine fan bases, instead you will see the players the current audience comes to see get dominated by either unknowns or players who were pretty terrible in BW. They should either make it a BW player only tourney this time or wait ½ a year with a SC2 OSL, so the BW players will not have to play 2 games at once
Jelleyicious
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia16 Posts
June 06 2012 07:06 GMT
#384
Brood War wasn't given the send off it deserved...Still its really exciting to see two big leagues in korea again. Can't wait.
TetriX101
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada51 Posts
June 06 2012 07:09 GMT
#385
rest in peace brood war. greatest of all games.
Never Give Up! Never Surrender!
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
June 06 2012 07:10 GMT
#386
On June 06 2012 16:06 Jelleyicious wrote:
Brood War wasn't given the send off it deserved...Still its really exciting to see two big leagues in korea again. Can't wait.


At least OGN politely stated this will be the last tournament and will finish it. MBC was just downright mean by cancelling the tournament after they ran their preliminaries.
Someone call down the Thunder?
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50898 Posts
June 06 2012 07:14 GMT
#387
On June 06 2012 16:10 RaiKageRyu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 16:06 Jelleyicious wrote:
Brood War wasn't given the send off it deserved...Still its really exciting to see two big leagues in korea again. Can't wait.


At least OGN politely stated this will be the last tournament and will finish it. MBC was just downright mean by cancelling the tournament after they ran their preliminaries.


you mean after they finished the survivor, they were gearing up for Ro32 group selection.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 07:21:00
June 06 2012 07:19 GMT
#388


On June 06 2012 15:53 snotboogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 09:33 zyzq wrote:
this seems like a big slap in the face to Kespa players because there is no way they can compete with the current SC2 players yet.


No, this is awesome. It will force the Kespa players to play doubly hard to catch up. This means better games overall.

I cannot wait for this, we're finally going to see GOM players vs Kespa players!!!!

Doubt any of the kespa players will catch up, gameknowledge wise to the very best sc2 guys untill atleast season 2 of this "OSL".

After that, the advantage the current sc2 player has should be normalized..
In the woods, there lurks..
Nivoh
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Norway259 Posts
June 06 2012 07:24 GMT
#389
Time to aquire a hard drive and get hold of ALL THINGS BW, I'll grow old happy.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
June 06 2012 07:24 GMT
#390
On June 06 2012 15:55 ragnorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 15:48 densha wrote:
On June 06 2012 15:32 J1.au wrote:
It is a big mistake of the OSL not to work with the players that bring in the viewers. It's gonna be sad when it's two random SC2 pros in the OSL grand finals and barely any one in the audience.


Assuming the Kespa pros don't catch up to the current pros within the next month, it's more than likely going to be known SC2 pros in the later stages of the tournament. The current GSL players bring with them an established fan-base that will show up and watch them play (as evidenced by the audience during GSL finals).

They should still work with what they have at the moment and try to combine fan bases, instead you will see the players the current audience comes to see get dominated by either unknowns or players who were pretty terrible in BW. They should either make it a BW player only tourney this time or wait ½ a year with a SC2 OSL, so the BW players will not have to play 2 games at once


If you are OGN and you have potential to run the 2nd biggest SC2 tournament in the world (with location and money its easily posible) on first try why would you pass that up to show inferior play which people wont watch? BW fans wont watch it because its not BW and SC2 fans wont watch it because the play is bad. That leaves you with people who are just fans of players and if they are fans of one player they can show there early round games meshed in with other players so they can become fans of theres as well.
Cinim
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark866 Posts
June 06 2012 07:27 GMT
#391
On June 06 2012 09:27 Boblhead wrote:
i thought they already mentioned that the next osl/spl were going to be exclusively sc2. not big news.


Itøs big news that the league is not limited to KeSPA players
Hell, it's about time
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
June 06 2012 07:37 GMT
#392
On June 06 2012 16:27 Cinim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 09:27 Boblhead wrote:
i thought they already mentioned that the next osl/spl were going to be exclusively sc2. not big news.


Itøs big news that the league is not limited to KeSPA players

Well, they did talk about opening up OSL during the eSports Transition Conference.

[11:28] For OSL, what happens to players not in KeSPA membership?

Mr. Lee: For my personal opinion would be having KeSPA, GSTL, and amateurs to compete in OSL. I haven't talked this out with Gretech yet, so no details can be given at the moment.

http://esfiworld.com/news/live-updates-starcraft-2-e-sports-vision-press-conference

ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
thepuppyassassin
Profile Joined April 2011
900 Posts
June 06 2012 07:38 GMT
#393
FINALLY! MvP was wondering where his golden mouse was at.. All he has are 4 misshapen, inconsistent ones.
ReboundEU
Profile Joined September 2010
508 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 07:42:38
June 06 2012 07:42 GMT
#394
On June 06 2012 09:29 jidolboy wrote:
and


Probably the closest comment to how i feel. Hard to let go of "the past" if u can call it that, some times.

...but it feels ok because the future is bright!
U MAD BRO?
Krogan
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden375 Posts
June 06 2012 07:46 GMT
#395
Oh thank god, this probably will be the death of Kespa unless they change their approach.
syst
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
United States247 Posts
June 06 2012 07:47 GMT
#396
Very, very, very sad. .
Tippecanoe
Profile Joined May 2011
United States342 Posts
June 06 2012 07:52 GMT
#397
Aww I was looking forward to a hybrid BW/sc2 tournament. Just kidding. This is how SPL should have happened. Would have made the last season more epic.
Surgical_Strike
Profile Joined April 2012
United States72 Posts
June 06 2012 07:52 GMT
#398
according to the ELEPHANT mentality the kespa players should be good enough to make all "original" sc2 players look like a circus act by next season right? Or has that whole group of the community that believed the ELEPHANT talk eaten their words already?
Anything worth doing, is worth doing right.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37076 Posts
June 06 2012 07:53 GMT
#399
On June 06 2012 12:42 warshop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 12:40 SeeKeR wrote:
......

The BW lover in me just died a LOT inside....
The SC2 lover in me is leaping with joy and ecstasy

The StarCraft lover in me is torn and conflicted
The TeamLiquid lover in me wants to keep posting


Love shall persist nonetheless.

Indeed. Love does make the world go around. Oh wait.... that's orbital commands....
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
thepuppyassassin
Profile Joined April 2011
900 Posts
June 06 2012 07:56 GMT
#400
It will be interesting to see consistent performers and even champions of the OSL be knocked out of the prelims by individuals who would barely have scratched the surface. The b-teamers have inherited the premiere Korean league... at least for the time being. No anger from my POV... but I'd imagine BW A-teamers must be seething.
Prev 1 18 19 20 21 22 43 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 3m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Horang2 1743
firebathero 544
Shine 310
Zeus 236
PianO 192
Aegong 84
Backho 73
Killer 67
ToSsGirL 54
Hm[arnc] 37
[ Show more ]
EffOrt 34
Dewaltoss 30
910 18
scan(afreeca) 15
JulyZerg 10
NotJumperer 3
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm173
League of Legends
JimRising 606
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1666
edward94
Other Games
summit1g6065
gofns1511
WinterStarcraft590
C9.Mang0334
Happy304
monkeys_forever303
Sick257
crisheroes108
ToD29
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick782
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream94
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 37
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Sammyuel 48
• Adnapsc2 4
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade727
• Stunt538
• Jankos464
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
1h 3m
RSL Revival
2h 3m
Classic vs GgMaChine
Rogue vs Maru
WardiTV Invitational
3h 3m
Percival vs Shameless
ByuN vs YoungYakov
SC Evo League
6h 3m
IPSL
8h 3m
Ret vs Art_Of_Turtle
Radley vs TBD
BSL
11h 3m
Replay Cast
16h 3m
RSL Revival
1d 2h
herO vs TriGGeR
NightMare vs Solar
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 6h
BSL
1d 11h
[ Show More ]
IPSL
1d 11h
eOnzErG vs TBD
G5 vs Nesh
Patches Events
1d 16h
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Jaedong vs Light
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Snow vs Flash
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
GSL
4 days
Classic vs Cure
Maru vs Rogue
GSL
5 days
SHIN vs Zoun
ByuN vs herO
OSC
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Escore
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W5
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
KK 2v2 League Season 1
Acropolis #4
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.