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On June 16 2012 15:51 OutOfMyMind_pro wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2012 15:47 lavit2099 wrote:On June 16 2012 15:41 OutOfMyMind_pro wrote:
These days whoever you beat in ladder calls you a hacker. I guess threads like this are to blame ; / Completely miss the point of the thread. It's not calling people hackers willy-nilly; it's giving supporting evidence to claims and allowing others to view the material so they can make up their own mind. More like you completely missed the point of my post. I know the purpose of the thread. That doesn't change the fact that threads like these have only increased the hack paranoia in the community and its pretty obvious.
Its also provided exposure to the existence of hacks and what they do and people have started using them more seeing how effective they are at even a GM level.
Not everyone I play hacks, but I get one out of every 25 games or so. Before it was fewer
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On June 16 2012 15:54 ZeromuS wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2012 15:51 OutOfMyMind_pro wrote:On June 16 2012 15:47 lavit2099 wrote:On June 16 2012 15:41 OutOfMyMind_pro wrote:
These days whoever you beat in ladder calls you a hacker. I guess threads like this are to blame ; / Completely miss the point of the thread. It's not calling people hackers willy-nilly; it's giving supporting evidence to claims and allowing others to view the material so they can make up their own mind. More like you completely missed the point of my post. I know the purpose of the thread. That doesn't change the fact that threads like these have only increased the hack paranoia in the community and its pretty obvious. Its also provided exposure to the existence of hacks and what they do and people have started using them more seeing how effective they are at even a GM level. Not everyone I play hacks, but I get one out of every 25 games or so. Before it was fewer
Yes , yes. I'm not saying it's a bad thing. This had to be adressed a lot earlier. Just stated one of the side effects you encounter
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On June 16 2012 16:01 OutOfMyMind_pro wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2012 15:54 ZeromuS wrote:On June 16 2012 15:51 OutOfMyMind_pro wrote:On June 16 2012 15:47 lavit2099 wrote:On June 16 2012 15:41 OutOfMyMind_pro wrote:
These days whoever you beat in ladder calls you a hacker. I guess threads like this are to blame ; / Completely miss the point of the thread. It's not calling people hackers willy-nilly; it's giving supporting evidence to claims and allowing others to view the material so they can make up their own mind. More like you completely missed the point of my post. I know the purpose of the thread. That doesn't change the fact that threads like these have only increased the hack paranoia in the community and its pretty obvious. Its also provided exposure to the existence of hacks and what they do and people have started using them more seeing how effective they are at even a GM level. Not everyone I play hacks, but I get one out of every 25 games or so. Before it was fewer Yes , yes. I'm not saying it's a bad thing. This had to be adressed a lot earlier. Just stated one of the side effects you encounter
Might of been an issue with timing. A couple above you a guy posts a replay of him losing to a possible hacker, then your statement, made it sound like you were sarcastically making fun of people for crying wolf.
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On June 16 2012 14:01 RevBubba wrote:High/mid masters terran maphacking (#12 masters in division last season) ID: Pikachoo Race: Terran I just did a little research because he denied it in-game, so I gave him the benefit of the doubt and watched the replay and took note of a few things. http://drop.sc/1986501. 14:23 scan burrow banes... what? 2. 15:00-15:25, rally marines to go around creep he never even knew was there (unless he hacked), note he doesn't try to drop behind mineral line at 3rd (crawlers are there waiting) 3. 21:22, Scans a burrowed ling before his command center gets to "fail landing". 4. 23:00-23:08, looks into fog of war to see lings heading to his 5th base, instantly decides to stim his entire army towards his command center. 5. 25:10, 2nd time he killed my watch tower ling entire game, decides not to take the watchtower. 6. 26:50, stims forward to kill broodlords without scanning or anything, but my units are out of position somewhat.
I love his stim cross map to save his command center from lings that he never even sees @ 23:00 LOL. This guy then says he's not hacking later in the game... yea right buddy.
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Just played this guy "deusbelli" on the EU ladder high masters playing toss after looking over the replay i picked up on a few this that i found very incriminating :
http://drop.sc/198699
11:30 moves army to intercept my lings not that suspicious but iffy
13:40 rally zealots to attack a hatch he cant see and doesn't know exists
17:50 kills a burrowed zergling but before being able to see it it appears also he centers on it
22:00 walks up to my spine crawler wall attacks it moving back just as my unseen broodlord are about to be close enough to attack
25:00 moves his army though the fog of war following the movements of my broodlord the noticed my morphing broodlords and blindly blinks under them
28:52 shifts queues attack commands on my infestors in the fog of war
i guess the last one is enough i hope something can be done
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On June 16 2012 16:33 jamesykins wrote:Just played this guy "deusbelli" on the EU ladder high masters playing toss after looking over the replay i picked up on a few this that i found very incriminating : http://drop.sc/198699 11:30 moves army to intercept my lings not that suspicious but iffy 13:40 rally zealots to attack a hatch he cant see and doesn't know exists 17:50 kills a burrowed zergling but before being able to see it it appears also he centers on it 22:00 walks up to my spine crawler wall attacks it moving back just as my unseen broodlord are about to be close enough to attack 25:00 moves his army though the fog of war following the movements of my broodlord the noticed my morphing broodlords and blindly blinks under them 28:52 shifts queues attack commands on my infestors in the fog of war i guess the last one is enough i hope something can be done
Wow that is one of the most blatant I have ever seen. Not even trying to hide it...
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It feels like if Blizzard doesn't do something ,everyone is going to question if another player hacks every game.
Sad thing to say, but that looks like the way its going.
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Seriously, the ladder is swarmed with hackers, litteraly every ZvsZ where i try to 6 pool or cheese, my opponent "magically" knows what I'm doing, it's really funny how they without scouting cancels their extractor/early hatch and starts placing spines in their main base once my zerglings hatches and starts running towards his base.
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On June 16 2012 11:27 ZweiGaming wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2012 11:17 Alex.Levy wrote:Well yesterday i was on a website i use for coding and such and saw a game section, and discoverd axeleration aka intel another player currently on LG who doesn't just use hacks , he distributes them. http://imgur.com/vkTMDAlso a recent game on stream vs team UR convicts xog of hacking as well, notice how he scouts a proxy rax in an abnormal position then rushes muta vs mech as in a 7 min muta rush which is abnormal and almost 100% proves hacks. Notice in the video (trying to get replay) http://www.twitch.tv/samsc2/b/321368885at time 28:36 the game where hacks become obvious begin. at time 30:08 he rallies a drone to go an extra minute to the opponents base on an abnormal path which scouts a proxy racks while not even bothering to scout the normal position of the proxy barracks around the third For the rest of the game he stays on 2 base which is not normal vs terran and makes only air units and no ground units without scouting anything except for a reactor on a barracks. First of all, Can a MOD IP check this guy and ban the smurf as this is "lightpwnr". I can already assure you they have same IP as this person PMed me from both those names when he was being accused few weeks ago. Second, those claims are invalid, screenshot isn't clear at all, and VOD isn't clear either. Please provide replays of the games as I want to see players vision and what they look at/click at, etc.
Wow, just made an account there to check his post history out and minor alarm bells are going off...well but.i have no replay proof so nothing more to say I guess. I'm just kind of surprised how often he promotes hacks while saying at the same time he doesn't use them... But vouches for their safety and reliability and claims to know the guy who writes the hacks personally... Except that person appears to be in Australia judging by the fact that he takes payments in Australian dollars while intel is in Canada,and while coincidence explains many things, many coincidences start to feel fishy...
Well we should suppose innocences anyways. And besides every time I played intel on ladder I just felt that he was extraordinarily good, not that he hacked or anything. Just weird how odd coincidences feel sometimes...
Oh, and lol the lightpwnr drama continues to deliver. Grats on giving out your name as well I think?
Edit -claims to know a lot of people who map hack as well. Specifically says people who map hack not maphackers, makes me think he knows them personally...man...
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whysomad - admits to maphacking and its seen all throughout the game, no need to even pin point it. I believe he just made a new acc after his old one got banned
http://drop.sc/199012
so far out of 15 games ive played 4 maphackers that I remember - imnestea, fyrepower, whysomad, fnatictricky
its getting quite patheic
we use too ip check maphackers in age of empires and post his info up so we cud catch all of his accs, would be a good way to catch maphackers as im sure they have other accs they try to be legit on
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Smurf - high masters on EU server, no fog of war looking, + weird strategy choice for playing vs random
http://drop.sc/199089
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played a high "master" terran called CocRetA on EU, but it was clear after a few minutes that he had the micro and skill of a gold league player. No game sense at all, plays risky and blind, 0 scans, finds proxy pylons, queues his 7 raxs to max like a true gold leaguer.
replay http://drop.sc/199095
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On June 17 2012 09:35 Manimal_pro wrote:Smurf - high masters on EU server, no fog of war looking, + weird strategy choice for playing vs random http://drop.sc/199089
huh? he looks into fog of war several times and he doesnt build the forge until after scouting you.. please dont throw around allegations like this unless you have something to show
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Wow I am glad something like this exist, because we need this to collectively identify and report these people with good proof. Good job!
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On June 16 2012 14:01 RevBubba wrote:High/mid masters terran maphacking (#12 masters in division last season) ID: Pikachoo Race: Terran I just did a little research because he denied it in-game, so I gave him the benefit of the doubt and watched the replay and took note of a few things. http://drop.sc/1986501. 14:23 scan burrow banes... what? 2. 15:00-15:25, rally marines to go around creep he never even knew was there (unless he hacked), note he doesn't try to drop behind mineral line at 3rd (crawlers are there waiting) 3. 21:22, Scans a burrowed ling before his command center gets to "fail landing". 4. 23:00-23:08, looks into fog of war to see lings heading to his 5th base, instantly decides to stim his entire army towards his command center. 5. 25:10, 2nd time he killed my watch tower ling entire game, decides not to take the watchtower. 6. 26:50, stims forward to kill broodlords without scanning or anything, but my units are out of position somewhat. UPDATE: New information regarding this hacker, caught with a screenshot hacking in this game.
Here another replay from him hacking ... and also the screenshots from the same game which he streamed.
http://imgur.com/a/YLtiT
http://drop.sc/196843?pass=6dc3e2a7-1b2e-475a-9850-33047abf11d9
Here is the support answer:
Howdy,
Thank you very much for reporting Pikachoo. It helps us out a great deal, when players like yourself, take the time and let us know when hacks are being used.
I have started the investigation into the actions of that player and we weill be taking the appropriate actions against their account.
Thank you again, Michael.
Should you require further assistance, please select the Need More Help option below. We hope you continue to enjoy your experience in SC2!
Regards,
Game Master Volsox
Customer Services
Blizzard Entertainment
I guess just a pretty standard answer though ...
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at this point Sc2 needs a private ladder blizzard has failed
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Bosnia-Herzegovina261 Posts
I wished to have had the maphack so many times on 4player maps, or even worse, 4map+random, and randoms cheese 80% of the time.
So painful 
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I've just played against a maphacker on shakuras plateau, he comes straight in my main and proxies 2 gate. His ID: Sozigen
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On June 17 2012 16:50 Thune wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2012 14:01 RevBubba wrote:High/mid masters terran maphacking (#12 masters in division last season) ID: Pikachoo Race: Terran I just did a little research because he denied it in-game, so I gave him the benefit of the doubt and watched the replay and took note of a few things. http://drop.sc/1986501. 14:23 scan burrow banes... what? 2. 15:00-15:25, rally marines to go around creep he never even knew was there (unless he hacked), note he doesn't try to drop behind mineral line at 3rd (crawlers are there waiting) 3. 21:22, Scans a burrowed ling before his command center gets to "fail landing". 4. 23:00-23:08, looks into fog of war to see lings heading to his 5th base, instantly decides to stim his entire army towards his command center. 5. 25:10, 2nd time he killed my watch tower ling entire game, decides not to take the watchtower. 6. 26:50, stims forward to kill broodlords without scanning or anything, but my units are out of position somewhat. UPDATE: New information regarding this hacker, caught with a screenshot hacking in this game. Here another replay from him hacking ... and also the screenshots from the same game which he streamed. http://imgur.com/a/YLtiThttp://drop.sc/196843?pass=6dc3e2a7-1b2e-475a-9850-33047abf11d9Here is the support answer: Show nested quote +Howdy,
Thank you very much for reporting Pikachoo. It helps us out a great deal, when players like yourself, take the time and let us know when hacks are being used.
I have started the investigation into the actions of that player and we weill be taking the appropriate actions against their account.
Thank you again, Michael.
Should you require further assistance, please select the Need More Help option below. We hope you continue to enjoy your experience in SC2!
Regards,
Game Master Volsox
Customer Services
Blizzard Entertainment
I guess just a pretty standard answer though ...
Do you have the link to his stream? Using the VODS to get him banned would be the easiest way.
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Bosnia-Herzegovina261 Posts
He is actually streaming while maphacking?
I need his drugs.
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