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Hacker name: Strix
Race: Protoss
League: Diamond
Server: NA
Maphacker
http://drop.sc/384843
No scout ever but some people do that so its not abnormal.
3:39 He selects 4 probes ready to be pulled vs my proxy reaper. He pulls them before my reaper is in vision.
6:18 He moves his MSC and stalker to where my reapers will jump up
7:40 He positions observers to deny widow mine drop (again he never scouted)
8:35 He moves his army to intercept reaper
These are the most obvious ones:
9:15 He moves his army to intercept a banshee without vision.
12:33 He cancels his third base as if he knew I was attacking him.
13:00 Prememptive Nexus cannon without vision of my army.
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On August 13 2014 03:54 Xinzoe wrote:Hacker name: Strix Race: Protoss League: Diamond Server: NA http://drop.sc/384843No scout ever but some people do that so its not abnormal. 3:39 He selects 4 probes ready to be pulled vs my proxy reaper. He pulls them before my reaper is in vision. 6:18 He moves his MSC and stalker to where my reapers will jump up 7:40 He positions observers to deny widow mine drop (again he never scouted) 8:35 He moves his army to intercept reaper These are the most obvious ones: 9:15 He moves his army to intercept a banshee without vision. 12:33 He cancels his third base as if he knew I was attacking him. 13:00 Prememptive Nexus cannon without vision of my army.
Im played versus this guy too,and really is maphacker!
See in replay!
http://drop.sc/384844
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Name: Whoracle
Server: NA
League: Plat
Description: Vs my 10 pool, he blindly builds 3 cannons, then pulls all of his probes without seeing anything. He was building up 400 minerals to go for a FFE before dropping the cannons. He even has the gall to tell me to "gtfo" of the game.
Replay: http://drop.sc/384851
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All those games have a flaw in your explanation the cannon rush is normal and scout for 3rd expansion and he dosnt attack the pylons at his 2nd expo which means he does something wierd?
Lillekanin you see I see marine movment and I am ready for a recall as I can catch a medivac then I am just scouting around and before attacking the medivac I do patrol movment.
The proxy 2 raxx I see early gas and 3 min raxx which isnt normal its gas before raxx which means you wanna go into factory beforehand so thats just safe play by me. Note he also denies my expansion which forces me to attack and he loses alot of army and thats why I go for the kill.
Last Zerg game I have a mothership cannons and he cant build that much mutas with that denial and its a normal gateway timing.
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On August 15 2014 06:17 Draxo wrote:All those games have a flaw in your explanation the cannon rush is normal and scout for 3rd expansion and he dosnt attack the pylons at his 2nd expo which means he does something wierd? Lillekanin you see I see marine movment and I am ready for a recall as I can catch a medivac then I am just scouting around and before attacking the medivac I do patrol movment. The proxy 2 raxx I see early gas and 3 min raxx which isnt normal its gas before raxx which means you wanna go into factory beforehand so thats just safe play by me. Note he also denies my expansion which forces me to attack and he loses alot of army and thats why I go for the kill. Last Zerg game I have a mothership cannons and he cant build that much mutas with that denial and its a normal gateway timing.
Wouldn't happen to be the same Ghost as featured in this post, would it?
reddit thread
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On August 15 2014 06:43 sgtduck wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2014 06:17 Draxo wrote:All those games have a flaw in your explanation the cannon rush is normal and scout for 3rd expansion and he dosnt attack the pylons at his 2nd expo which means he does something wierd? Lillekanin you see I see marine movment and I am ready for a recall as I can catch a medivac then I am just scouting around and before attacking the medivac I do patrol movment. The proxy 2 raxx I see early gas and 3 min raxx which isnt normal its gas before raxx which means you wanna go into factory beforehand so thats just safe play by me. Note he also denies my expansion which forces me to attack and he loses alot of army and thats why I go for the kill. Last Zerg game I have a mothership cannons and he cant build that much mutas with that denial and its a normal gateway timing. Wouldn't happen to be the same Ghost as featured in this post, would it? reddit thread
It is the same but they leave out alot of details concerning how the game turns out and what I know beforehand, as a tell I had 2 teammates play him beforehand and both said they got speedling all inned. Huh Im absolutly not gonna be prepared for it?
2nd game he has various things telling him what is happening but he killed both my scout probes which says I cant do aggresion so I go heavy late game skytoss, dosnt cancel void ray to build pheonix when he builds spire and so on and the stargate are heavily delayed from his spire.
I also had a very long stream session with all the people involved and such about all decision there even came in some replays which havnt come up in a thread but it seemed like mostly those were blink builds or others.
Note I wasnt contacted about the "Maphack Issue" either so they didnt even ask why I made decision or anything. Also most of the analyzers were below diamond level and friend of my opponent, coincidence?
I got atleast +30 followers and alot of messages that said I shouldnt care about these accusations and when they listen what I have said is that they wanna keep on following me and whatching me. Cause they think I am legit and I keep on being legit. Had some GM´s friend that looked into my replays aswell HerO, puCK and even NIGHTEND which I dont know that much either.
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On August 15 2014 07:02 Draxo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2014 06:43 sgtduck wrote:On August 15 2014 06:17 Draxo wrote:All those games have a flaw in your explanation the cannon rush is normal and scout for 3rd expansion and he dosnt attack the pylons at his 2nd expo which means he does something wierd? Lillekanin you see I see marine movment and I am ready for a recall as I can catch a medivac then I am just scouting around and before attacking the medivac I do patrol movment. The proxy 2 raxx I see early gas and 3 min raxx which isnt normal its gas before raxx which means you wanna go into factory beforehand so thats just safe play by me. Note he also denies my expansion which forces me to attack and he loses alot of army and thats why I go for the kill. Last Zerg game I have a mothership cannons and he cant build that much mutas with that denial and its a normal gateway timing. Wouldn't happen to be the same Ghost as featured in this post, would it? reddit thread It is the same but they leave out alot of details concerning how the game turns out and what I know beforehand, as a tell I had 2 teammates play him beforehand and both said they got speedling all inned. Huh Im absolutly not gonna be prepared for it? 2nd game he has various things telling him what is happening but he killed both my scout probes which says I cant do aggresion so I go heavy late game skytoss, dosnt cancel void ray to build pheonix when he builds spire and so on and the stargate are heavily delayed from his spire. I also had a very long stream session with all the people involved and such about all decision there even came in some replays which havnt come up in a thread but it seemed like mostly those were blink builds or others. Note I wasnt contacted about the "Maphack Issue" either so they didnt even ask why I made decision or anything. Also most of the analyzers were below diamond level and friend of my opponent, coincidence? I got atleast +30 followers and alot of messages that said I shouldnt care about these accusations and when they listen what I have said is that they wanna keep on following me and whatching me. Cause they think I am legit and I keep on being legit. Had some GM´s friend that looked into my replays aswell HerO, puCK and even NIGHTEND which I dont know that much either.
Watching the first replay....
Game one, all you scout is a normal timed third, and you freak out and put down cannons the moment he happens to have four banelings by your wall. (Which you didnt scout by the way)
Watched the 2nd replay. You follow his army at least once through the fog of war, you had absolutely no idea that there were units there.
@12:05-12:09 this occurs.
On top of this, you haven't scouted his base once beyond the initial scout, you have no idea what type of aggression is coming, yet you start chronoing out phoenixes. You don't chrono out phoenixes for a late game army vs Z, you don't chrono most units without actually knowing thats what you need.
You even start getting the phoenix range upgarde without scouting ANYTHING. How does this make any sense? No legitimate player would perform the actions that you performed game two.
"aggresion so I go heavy late game skytoss, dosnt cancel void ray to build pheonix when he builds spire and so on and the stargate are heavily delayed from his spire."
The stargates are heavily delayed from his spire? Well thats fine, you made up for it by laying down two additionals stargates (3 total) and chronoing out a unit you had no idea that you needed. You even got the range upgrade to specifically fight a unit you didnt scout, but did happen to follow through the fog of war.
You even have the balls to tell him to get out when you're blatantly map hacking, how much of a scum bag are you?
My conclusion
You're a liar, and you're map hacking. You cheated a good dude out of a tournament. You should feel ashamed, but you won't, because you clearly lack the capabilities of doing so.
Please, more people chime in on this guy.
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On August 15 2014 08:47 PanN wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2014 07:02 Draxo wrote:On August 15 2014 06:43 sgtduck wrote:On August 15 2014 06:17 Draxo wrote:All those games have a flaw in your explanation the cannon rush is normal and scout for 3rd expansion and he dosnt attack the pylons at his 2nd expo which means he does something wierd? Lillekanin you see I see marine movment and I am ready for a recall as I can catch a medivac then I am just scouting around and before attacking the medivac I do patrol movment. The proxy 2 raxx I see early gas and 3 min raxx which isnt normal its gas before raxx which means you wanna go into factory beforehand so thats just safe play by me. Note he also denies my expansion which forces me to attack and he loses alot of army and thats why I go for the kill. Last Zerg game I have a mothership cannons and he cant build that much mutas with that denial and its a normal gateway timing. Wouldn't happen to be the same Ghost as featured in this post, would it? reddit thread It is the same but they leave out alot of details concerning how the game turns out and what I know beforehand, as a tell I had 2 teammates play him beforehand and both said they got speedling all inned. Huh Im absolutly not gonna be prepared for it? 2nd game he has various things telling him what is happening but he killed both my scout probes which says I cant do aggresion so I go heavy late game skytoss, dosnt cancel void ray to build pheonix when he builds spire and so on and the stargate are heavily delayed from his spire. I also had a very long stream session with all the people involved and such about all decision there even came in some replays which havnt come up in a thread but it seemed like mostly those were blink builds or others. Note I wasnt contacted about the "Maphack Issue" either so they didnt even ask why I made decision or anything. Also most of the analyzers were below diamond level and friend of my opponent, coincidence? I got atleast +30 followers and alot of messages that said I shouldnt care about these accusations and when they listen what I have said is that they wanna keep on following me and whatching me. Cause they think I am legit and I keep on being legit. Had some GM´s friend that looked into my replays aswell HerO, puCK and even NIGHTEND which I dont know that much either. Watching the first replay.... Game one, all you scout is a normal timed third, and you freak out and put down cannons the moment he happens to have four banelings by your wall. (Which you didnt scout by the way) Watched the 2nd replay. You follow his army at least once through the fog of war, you had absolutely no idea that there were units there. @12:05-12:09 this occurs. On top of this, you haven't scouted his base once beyond the initial scout, you have no idea what type of aggression is coming, yet you start chronoing out phoenixes. You don't chrono out phoenixes for a late game army vs Z, you don't chrono most units without actually knowing thats what you need. You even start getting the phoenix range upgarde without scouting ANYTHING. How does this make any sense? No legitimate player would perform the actions that you performed game two. "aggresion so I go heavy late game skytoss, dosnt cancel void ray to build pheonix when he builds spire and so on and the stargate are heavily delayed from his spire." The stargates are heavily delayed from his spire? Well thats fine, you made up for it by laying down two additionals stargates (3 total) and chronoing out a unit you had no idea that you needed. You even got the range upgrade to specifically fight a unit you didnt scout, but did happen to follow through the fog of war. You even have the balls to tell him to get out when you're blatantly map hacking, how much of a scum bag are you? My conclusion You're a liar, and you're map hacking. You cheated a good dude out of a tournament. You should feel ashamed, but you won't, because you clearly lack the capabilities of doing so. Please, more people chime in on this guy.
Out is for a lagging admin so no BM there, I get pheonixes as they are in the lategame Protoss skytoss army , 9 Pheonix 10 Void rays and then fill in with tempest/Carriers. So chasing mutas with range pheonix is wierd okay then tell me how you pheonix. I have to go skytoss as the position I am in the game. I tought I was dead when he moved out his units and as we see on replay I dont see all lings I just guess there is gonna come more. It is also to late for a SH timing or if he really delays it. Also the only logical left since alot of speedlings without attacking me? What is left of my choices. I dont start the range as quick as I can either.
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On August 15 2014 08:49 Draxo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2014 08:47 PanN wrote:On August 15 2014 07:02 Draxo wrote:On August 15 2014 06:43 sgtduck wrote:On August 15 2014 06:17 Draxo wrote:All those games have a flaw in your explanation the cannon rush is normal and scout for 3rd expansion and he dosnt attack the pylons at his 2nd expo which means he does something wierd? Lillekanin you see I see marine movment and I am ready for a recall as I can catch a medivac then I am just scouting around and before attacking the medivac I do patrol movment. The proxy 2 raxx I see early gas and 3 min raxx which isnt normal its gas before raxx which means you wanna go into factory beforehand so thats just safe play by me. Note he also denies my expansion which forces me to attack and he loses alot of army and thats why I go for the kill. Last Zerg game I have a mothership cannons and he cant build that much mutas with that denial and its a normal gateway timing. Wouldn't happen to be the same Ghost as featured in this post, would it? reddit thread It is the same but they leave out alot of details concerning how the game turns out and what I know beforehand, as a tell I had 2 teammates play him beforehand and both said they got speedling all inned. Huh Im absolutly not gonna be prepared for it? 2nd game he has various things telling him what is happening but he killed both my scout probes which says I cant do aggresion so I go heavy late game skytoss, dosnt cancel void ray to build pheonix when he builds spire and so on and the stargate are heavily delayed from his spire. I also had a very long stream session with all the people involved and such about all decision there even came in some replays which havnt come up in a thread but it seemed like mostly those were blink builds or others. Note I wasnt contacted about the "Maphack Issue" either so they didnt even ask why I made decision or anything. Also most of the analyzers were below diamond level and friend of my opponent, coincidence? I got atleast +30 followers and alot of messages that said I shouldnt care about these accusations and when they listen what I have said is that they wanna keep on following me and whatching me. Cause they think I am legit and I keep on being legit. Had some GM´s friend that looked into my replays aswell HerO, puCK and even NIGHTEND which I dont know that much either. Watching the first replay.... Game one, all you scout is a normal timed third, and you freak out and put down cannons the moment he happens to have four banelings by your wall. (Which you didnt scout by the way) Watched the 2nd replay. You follow his army at least once through the fog of war, you had absolutely no idea that there were units there. @12:05-12:09 this occurs. On top of this, you haven't scouted his base once beyond the initial scout, you have no idea what type of aggression is coming, yet you start chronoing out phoenixes. You don't chrono out phoenixes for a late game army vs Z, you don't chrono most units without actually knowing thats what you need. You even start getting the phoenix range upgarde without scouting ANYTHING. How does this make any sense? No legitimate player would perform the actions that you performed game two. "aggresion so I go heavy late game skytoss, dosnt cancel void ray to build pheonix when he builds spire and so on and the stargate are heavily delayed from his spire." The stargates are heavily delayed from his spire? Well thats fine, you made up for it by laying down two additionals stargates (3 total) and chronoing out a unit you had no idea that you needed. You even got the range upgrade to specifically fight a unit you didnt scout, but did happen to follow through the fog of war. You even have the balls to tell him to get out when you're blatantly map hacking, how much of a scum bag are you? My conclusion You're a liar, and you're map hacking. You cheated a good dude out of a tournament. You should feel ashamed, but you won't, because you clearly lack the capabilities of doing so. Please, more people chime in on this guy. Out is for a lagging admin so no BM there, I get pheonixes as they are in the lategame Protoss skytoss army , 9 Pheonix 10 Void rays and then fill in with tempest/Carriers. So chasing mutas with range pheonix is wierd okay then tell me how you pheonix. I have to go skytoss as the position I am in the game. I tought I was dead when he moved out his units and as we see on replay I dont see all lings I just guess there is gonna come more. It is also to late for a SH timing or if he really delays it. Also the only logical left since alot of speedlings without attacking me? What is left of my choices. I dont start the range as quick as I can either.
http://sc2replaystats.com/replay/793923
Please explain how the only time you ever bring units to defend your main is, coincidentally, the exact same times I'm dropping.
Particularly ~15mins - you magically pull all your stalkers home and warp in HT to defend my 3 medivac drop. You have 0 map vision, yet you randomly decide to defend your main for once even though you've scouted fuck all because you have 0 observers. You literally leave every base undefended constantly, the entire game, unless I'm poised to do something to it.
Have at it.
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On August 15 2014 08:49 Draxo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2014 08:47 PanN wrote:On August 15 2014 07:02 Draxo wrote:On August 15 2014 06:43 sgtduck wrote:On August 15 2014 06:17 Draxo wrote:All those games have a flaw in your explanation the cannon rush is normal and scout for 3rd expansion and he dosnt attack the pylons at his 2nd expo which means he does something wierd? Lillekanin you see I see marine movment and I am ready for a recall as I can catch a medivac then I am just scouting around and before attacking the medivac I do patrol movment. The proxy 2 raxx I see early gas and 3 min raxx which isnt normal its gas before raxx which means you wanna go into factory beforehand so thats just safe play by me. Note he also denies my expansion which forces me to attack and he loses alot of army and thats why I go for the kill. Last Zerg game I have a mothership cannons and he cant build that much mutas with that denial and its a normal gateway timing. Wouldn't happen to be the same Ghost as featured in this post, would it? reddit thread It is the same but they leave out alot of details concerning how the game turns out and what I know beforehand, as a tell I had 2 teammates play him beforehand and both said they got speedling all inned. Huh Im absolutly not gonna be prepared for it? 2nd game he has various things telling him what is happening but he killed both my scout probes which says I cant do aggresion so I go heavy late game skytoss, dosnt cancel void ray to build pheonix when he builds spire and so on and the stargate are heavily delayed from his spire. I also had a very long stream session with all the people involved and such about all decision there even came in some replays which havnt come up in a thread but it seemed like mostly those were blink builds or others. Note I wasnt contacted about the "Maphack Issue" either so they didnt even ask why I made decision or anything. Also most of the analyzers were below diamond level and friend of my opponent, coincidence? I got atleast +30 followers and alot of messages that said I shouldnt care about these accusations and when they listen what I have said is that they wanna keep on following me and whatching me. Cause they think I am legit and I keep on being legit. Had some GM´s friend that looked into my replays aswell HerO, puCK and even NIGHTEND which I dont know that much either. Watching the first replay.... Game one, all you scout is a normal timed third, and you freak out and put down cannons the moment he happens to have four banelings by your wall. (Which you didnt scout by the way) Watched the 2nd replay. You follow his army at least once through the fog of war, you had absolutely no idea that there were units there. @12:05-12:09 this occurs. On top of this, you haven't scouted his base once beyond the initial scout, you have no idea what type of aggression is coming, yet you start chronoing out phoenixes. You don't chrono out phoenixes for a late game army vs Z, you don't chrono most units without actually knowing thats what you need. You even start getting the phoenix range upgarde without scouting ANYTHING. How does this make any sense? No legitimate player would perform the actions that you performed game two. "aggresion so I go heavy late game skytoss, dosnt cancel void ray to build pheonix when he builds spire and so on and the stargate are heavily delayed from his spire." The stargates are heavily delayed from his spire? Well thats fine, you made up for it by laying down two additionals stargates (3 total) and chronoing out a unit you had no idea that you needed. You even got the range upgrade to specifically fight a unit you didnt scout, but did happen to follow through the fog of war. You even have the balls to tell him to get out when you're blatantly map hacking, how much of a scum bag are you? My conclusion You're a liar, and you're map hacking. You cheated a good dude out of a tournament. You should feel ashamed, but you won't, because you clearly lack the capabilities of doing so. Please, more people chime in on this guy. Out is for a lagging admin so no BM there, I get pheonixes as they are in the lategame Protoss skytoss army , 9 Pheonix 10 Void rays and then fill in with tempest/Carriers.
Dude, you're making stuff up. The game 2 replay literally shows you follow his units through the fog of war. Want to bother explaining that?
So lets start easy, lets make it easy for you k?
Reply in this format explaining the bullshit that you're being called out on.
1.) Following mutas through fog of war. Game two:@12:05 - 12:15 your camera pans EXACTLY where the mutas are coming from, and then you immediately rally all your phoenix there without seeing anything. Explain.
2.) Cannons being perfectly timed with banelings. Explain.
3.) Getting phoenix range upgrade despite not seeing a single thing that he made, if he did a sh push or a hydraling or hydra roach push you would have been absolutely decimated. Yet you go straight for chornoed phoenixes and chronoed phoenix range. Explain
4.) Phoenix range, Explain.
5.) Game one you scout a normal third timing, you set up a pylon to apply pressure, yet you randomly cancel it. Who does this? Nobody. Explain.
What kind of human being sits on his computer all day cheating vs others in a video game? Again, you should feel shame.
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On August 15 2014 08:49 Draxo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2014 08:47 PanN wrote:On August 15 2014 07:02 Draxo wrote:On August 15 2014 06:43 sgtduck wrote:On August 15 2014 06:17 Draxo wrote:All those games have a flaw in your explanation the cannon rush is normal and scout for 3rd expansion and he dosnt attack the pylons at his 2nd expo which means he does something wierd? Lillekanin you see I see marine movment and I am ready for a recall as I can catch a medivac then I am just scouting around and before attacking the medivac I do patrol movment. The proxy 2 raxx I see early gas and 3 min raxx which isnt normal its gas before raxx which means you wanna go into factory beforehand so thats just safe play by me. Note he also denies my expansion which forces me to attack and he loses alot of army and thats why I go for the kill. Last Zerg game I have a mothership cannons and he cant build that much mutas with that denial and its a normal gateway timing. Wouldn't happen to be the same Ghost as featured in this post, would it? reddit thread It is the same but they leave out alot of details concerning how the game turns out and what I know beforehand, as a tell I had 2 teammates play him beforehand and both said they got speedling all inned. Huh Im absolutly not gonna be prepared for it? 2nd game he has various things telling him what is happening but he killed both my scout probes which says I cant do aggresion so I go heavy late game skytoss, dosnt cancel void ray to build pheonix when he builds spire and so on and the stargate are heavily delayed from his spire. I also had a very long stream session with all the people involved and such about all decision there even came in some replays which havnt come up in a thread but it seemed like mostly those were blink builds or others. Note I wasnt contacted about the "Maphack Issue" either so they didnt even ask why I made decision or anything. Also most of the analyzers were below diamond level and friend of my opponent, coincidence? I got atleast +30 followers and alot of messages that said I shouldnt care about these accusations and when they listen what I have said is that they wanna keep on following me and whatching me. Cause they think I am legit and I keep on being legit. Had some GM´s friend that looked into my replays aswell HerO, puCK and even NIGHTEND which I dont know that much either. Watching the first replay.... Game one, all you scout is a normal timed third, and you freak out and put down cannons the moment he happens to have four banelings by your wall. (Which you didnt scout by the way) Watched the 2nd replay. You follow his army at least once through the fog of war, you had absolutely no idea that there were units there. @12:05-12:09 this occurs. On top of this, you haven't scouted his base once beyond the initial scout, you have no idea what type of aggression is coming, yet you start chronoing out phoenixes. You don't chrono out phoenixes for a late game army vs Z, you don't chrono most units without actually knowing thats what you need. You even start getting the phoenix range upgarde without scouting ANYTHING. How does this make any sense? No legitimate player would perform the actions that you performed game two. "aggresion so I go heavy late game skytoss, dosnt cancel void ray to build pheonix when he builds spire and so on and the stargate are heavily delayed from his spire." The stargates are heavily delayed from his spire? Well thats fine, you made up for it by laying down two additionals stargates (3 total) and chronoing out a unit you had no idea that you needed. You even got the range upgrade to specifically fight a unit you didnt scout, but did happen to follow through the fog of war. You even have the balls to tell him to get out when you're blatantly map hacking, how much of a scum bag are you? My conclusion You're a liar, and you're map hacking. You cheated a good dude out of a tournament. You should feel ashamed, but you won't, because you clearly lack the capabilities of doing so. Please, more people chime in on this guy. Out is for a lagging admin so no BM there, I get pheonixes as they are in the lategame Protoss skytoss army , 9 Pheonix 10 Void rays and then fill in with tempest/Carriers. So chasing mutas with range pheonix is wierd okay then tell me how you pheonix. I have to go skytoss as the position I am in the game. I tought I was dead when he moved out his units and as we see on replay I dont see all lings I just guess there is gonna come more. It is also to late for a SH timing or if he really delays it. Also the only logical left since alot of speedlings without attacking me? What is left of my choices. I dont start the range as quick as I can either.
Nothing you just said made sense with what I just said. Also, after viewing the recent replay posted, ontop of everything else, theres not doubt in my mind that you're a hacker. Sad.
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On August 13 2014 12:32 Solar424 wrote:Name: Whoracle Server: NA League: Plat Description: Vs my 10 pool, he blindly builds 3 cannons, then pulls all of his probes without seeing anything. He was building up 400 minerals to go for a FFE before dropping the cannons. He even has the gall to tell me to "gtfo" of the game. Replay: http://drop.sc/384851
Yes, this guy is definitely a hacker. He opens forge fast expand with no scout, but yet right as he is about to put is nexus down he builds 3 canons at his ramp and pulls all is main probes down to expo to defend. Do you have his character ID ? I'll try and report it in all ways I can.
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On August 15 2014 08:58 Jimmeh wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2014 08:49 Draxo wrote:On August 15 2014 08:47 PanN wrote:On August 15 2014 07:02 Draxo wrote:On August 15 2014 06:43 sgtduck wrote:On August 15 2014 06:17 Draxo wrote:All those games have a flaw in your explanation the cannon rush is normal and scout for 3rd expansion and he dosnt attack the pylons at his 2nd expo which means he does something wierd? Lillekanin you see I see marine movment and I am ready for a recall as I can catch a medivac then I am just scouting around and before attacking the medivac I do patrol movment. The proxy 2 raxx I see early gas and 3 min raxx which isnt normal its gas before raxx which means you wanna go into factory beforehand so thats just safe play by me. Note he also denies my expansion which forces me to attack and he loses alot of army and thats why I go for the kill. Last Zerg game I have a mothership cannons and he cant build that much mutas with that denial and its a normal gateway timing. Wouldn't happen to be the same Ghost as featured in this post, would it? reddit thread It is the same but they leave out alot of details concerning how the game turns out and what I know beforehand, as a tell I had 2 teammates play him beforehand and both said they got speedling all inned. Huh Im absolutly not gonna be prepared for it? 2nd game he has various things telling him what is happening but he killed both my scout probes which says I cant do aggresion so I go heavy late game skytoss, dosnt cancel void ray to build pheonix when he builds spire and so on and the stargate are heavily delayed from his spire. I also had a very long stream session with all the people involved and such about all decision there even came in some replays which havnt come up in a thread but it seemed like mostly those were blink builds or others. Note I wasnt contacted about the "Maphack Issue" either so they didnt even ask why I made decision or anything. Also most of the analyzers were below diamond level and friend of my opponent, coincidence? I got atleast +30 followers and alot of messages that said I shouldnt care about these accusations and when they listen what I have said is that they wanna keep on following me and whatching me. Cause they think I am legit and I keep on being legit. Had some GM´s friend that looked into my replays aswell HerO, puCK and even NIGHTEND which I dont know that much either. Watching the first replay.... Game one, all you scout is a normal timed third, and you freak out and put down cannons the moment he happens to have four banelings by your wall. (Which you didnt scout by the way) Watched the 2nd replay. You follow his army at least once through the fog of war, you had absolutely no idea that there were units there. @12:05-12:09 this occurs. On top of this, you haven't scouted his base once beyond the initial scout, you have no idea what type of aggression is coming, yet you start chronoing out phoenixes. You don't chrono out phoenixes for a late game army vs Z, you don't chrono most units without actually knowing thats what you need. You even start getting the phoenix range upgarde without scouting ANYTHING. How does this make any sense? No legitimate player would perform the actions that you performed game two. "aggresion so I go heavy late game skytoss, dosnt cancel void ray to build pheonix when he builds spire and so on and the stargate are heavily delayed from his spire." The stargates are heavily delayed from his spire? Well thats fine, you made up for it by laying down two additionals stargates (3 total) and chronoing out a unit you had no idea that you needed. You even got the range upgrade to specifically fight a unit you didnt scout, but did happen to follow through the fog of war. You even have the balls to tell him to get out when you're blatantly map hacking, how much of a scum bag are you? My conclusion You're a liar, and you're map hacking. You cheated a good dude out of a tournament. You should feel ashamed, but you won't, because you clearly lack the capabilities of doing so. Please, more people chime in on this guy. Out is for a lagging admin so no BM there, I get pheonixes as they are in the lategame Protoss skytoss army , 9 Pheonix 10 Void rays and then fill in with tempest/Carriers. So chasing mutas with range pheonix is wierd okay then tell me how you pheonix. I have to go skytoss as the position I am in the game. I tought I was dead when he moved out his units and as we see on replay I dont see all lings I just guess there is gonna come more. It is also to late for a SH timing or if he really delays it. Also the only logical left since alot of speedlings without attacking me? What is left of my choices. I dont start the range as quick as I can either. http://sc2replaystats.com/replay/793923Please explain how the only time you ever bring units to defend your main is, coincidentally, the exact same times I'm dropping. Particularly ~15mins - you magically pull all your stalkers home and warp in HT to defend my 3 medivac drop. You have 0 map vision, yet you randomly decide to defend your main for once even though you've scouted fuck all because you have 0 observers. You literally leave every base undefended constantly, the entire game, unless I'm poised to do something to it. Have at it.
So I objectively watched the replay, and here would be the time stamp for the debatable actions:
1) @7:03 Jimmeh's medivac gets out of starport and picks up seconds later the marines for drop. At precisely 7:17 the protoss player's stalkers go from his expo (Leaving it only defended by 1 zealot and MSC) to his main on patrol where the drop will arrive. Indeed he has a probe nearby the passing dropship but the actions were done before it cam into vision ( @7:20 )
2) @10:17 the protoss player takes control of watch tower on left side of the map and see the dropship flying away.
3) @ 11:22 the protoss player didn't catch at all the drop at Jimmeh's third.
4) @ 15:00 the protoss player warps in 3 High Templars and moves all Stalkers to main.
Let me explain my point of view for those elements:
1) This is the most ambiguous part for me. Let's talk about the basic '' What could kill me now ? '' reasoning. Let's say his train of thought at that moment was: '' If he drops me in the main, I'll die '' then you can understand the stalker movement and patrol action. That being said, as a Mid-Masters protoss player myself, I would never leave 1 Zealot and a Mothership Core alone to defend my expansion as if the push comes in the front you'll die anyways. However, I lean towards just bad play that got lucky.
2) Any protoss player can assume the Terran will try to drop again with it, as taking the watch towers usually means the army is on the move and not much is left at home, so it wasn't necessarily weird for him to move stalkers into his main to catch it. On a sidenote, he didn't catch the other drop that was happening simultaneously in natural. If he was hacking, he would've made sure that it never landed. If you watch his vision, it really looks like he got surprised by it.
3) If you look at his vision he had no idea this drop was coming.
4) Having lost the engagement, the protoss retreats. If he thinks he was behind, then he expected another push to his third from Jimmeh. It is very common for Terrans to do either doom drops or multi-pronged attacks so again the split of the army could be in response to the logical: " What could kill me now ? '' reasoning. The army seperation this time was better as the amount of chargelots and high templar he had at his 3rd ramp was enough to hold a smaller force. If a non multi-pronged attack arrived at his third he could've blinked his stalkers to help repel. And a doom drop would just not happen with this stalker placement.
I have also watched the replay from his point of view a few times and he never peaks at fog of war (Fog of War Hack). He doesn't blindly counter your army composition without any scout (Production Tab Hack) and looks really surprised to some drops as mentioned before. One could argue that there is the possibility that he has a Fog of War Hack and just didn't peek through fog of war to avoid being caught as drops are really evident on minimap anyways. However, if he did he would've reacted better to the more successful drops you made.
I cannot say if he is maphacking or not based solely on this replay, but from my analysis I don't see any hard evidence of cheating in this one. Do you have other replays of games YOU played against him ?
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On August 15 2014 10:07 Universum wrote:
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You're right, I wouldn't say he was maphacking from just that replay (and no I don't have any more games against him). It was however dodgy enough for me to download other replays of his to watch and there's a constant pattern of counters with no vision whatsoever.
Other people have gone over other replays, and yes you're right about how most of his drop defence positioning is just smart. However:
First 6 minutes - No units positioned to defend reapers at all. Not "hey he's hacking", but who the hell does this blindly.
7:17 - He pulls his stalkers back from his natural the moment my drop starts heading towards his main. He could just have timings down perfectly, but he literally does it the exact same time my drop loads up.. Keep in mind he hasn't scouted a single thing.
10:39 - He's scouted my drop coming so he's pulled stalkers back a bit before this point, okay that's all fine. However at this time he amoves his stalkers to behind his mineral line and then patrols them a bit. Coincidentally this covers the exact position my medivac is entering. Okay, he's got blink so and a lot of stalkers so 1medivac worth of marines isn't worth worry about it, but it's just another coincidence.
11:20 - My medivac's heading away from his main, he decides to bring all his stalkers back. Not some, all of them. Why would you do this?
12:00 - Okay no threats of drops now since I've pulled everything home, coincidentally this is the time he decides to push out leaving only a MSC to defend. Again just a coincidence.
15:42 - I load up for a doom drop. Prior to this he's kept his entire army defending his 3rd after the engagement in the middle. There was nothing defending his main, nothing defending his natural. Literally nothing. 2 seconds after I head my medivacs from the watch tower toward his main, he pulls ALL of his stalkers back to his main and then warps in a HT. You're right, you probably expect a doom drop coming and multiple pronged attacks - but wouldn't you leave something at your natural? Wouldn't you have a few stalkers in your main prior to this? What are the chances you'd pull all your stalkers back literally 2 seconds after a doom drop heads towards your main?
16:30 - Okay my medivacs from his main are going to join my main army. Coincidentally he pulls literally all his defence from his main. Not just some units, literally everything. Again, who does this? You'd always leave at least a couple of stalkers or a HT or something to feedback, but he pulls back literally everything completely blindly.
I wouldn't say he's hacking from that replay, but I would say the string of perfect coincidences are dodgy enough to make me warrant watching more replays. So I did (before the thread on Reddit and even before the post on here) and this game vs "LJR" was the most obvious example in my opinion. It's been covered before so I'll leave it at that.
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More evidence against ghost. ~from reddit
http://www.twitch.tv/ghostbehuman/b/556360228 @4:10 watch his face, he constantly looks at another monitor / something away from his monitor. Look at his face when he realizes its a few reapers, he even selects the stalkers and MSC before hand in order to fight them when they come up the ramp (which he pre-emptively moves to defend).
This guy needs to be stopped and banned from everything. He's planning on taking place at some moscow tournament, and just that fact a lone is something I despise. I agree with the poster that found this time in the video, hes going to show up, cheese a few games, then get knocked out and be like "well i got this far!".
I can't believe he actually streams his face and cheats. Wow.
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On August 15 2014 23:58 PanN wrote:More evidence against ghost. ~from reddit http://www.twitch.tv/ghostbehuman/b/556360228 @4:10 watch his face, he constantly looks at another monitor / something away from his monitor. Look at his face when he realizes its a few reapers, he even selects the stalkers and MSC before hand in order to fight them when they come up the ramp (which he pre-emptively moves to defend). This guy needs to be stopped and banned from everything. He's planning on taking place at some moscow tournament, and just that fact a lone is something I despise. I agree with the poster that found this time in the video, hes going to show up, cheese a few games, then get knocked out and be like "well i got this far!". I can't believe he actually streams his face and cheats. Wow.
It's really weird, he keeps looking to his right. It could be looking at his supply/ressources but to me it feels farther like a second screen. Also why are the health bars of his units red ?
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Hacker name NrS LionHeart
Server EU
League Diamond
Description
1 replay http://drop.sc/384922
made additional gateways before scouting,didnt move out with 3 gateway
and a lot of units (because making 3 gates and units for defense is ok now)
waited to forcefield the ramp,expands when i expand,at 16:44 starts to warp in
units when i drop in the dark,later he just adds stargates to completly counter
my push with 0 scouting this game
2 replay http://drop.sc/384923
again 0 scouting in the beginning,but plays normal,when my drop was near his base he starts
to warp in units at the mineral line.
50 apm
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hahaha, LionHeart again. He has his very own mh-thread btw. since 2013 I report him every time i meet him on the ladder. if you don´t create a huge public shitstorm, no one will ever be banned.
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On August 15 2014 22:35 Jimmeh wrote:You're right, I wouldn't say he was maphacking from just that replay (and no I don't have any more games against him). It was however dodgy enough for me to download other replays of his to watch and there's a constant pattern of counters with no vision whatsoever. Other people have gone over other replays, and yes you're right about how most of his drop defence positioning is just smart. However: First 6 minutes - No units positioned to defend reapers at all. Not "hey he's hacking", but who the hell does this blindly. 7:17 - He pulls his stalkers back from his natural the moment my drop starts heading towards his main. He could just have timings down perfectly, but he literally does it the exact same time my drop loads up.. Keep in mind he hasn't scouted a single thing. 10:39 - He's scouted my drop coming so he's pulled stalkers back a bit before this point, okay that's all fine. However at this time he amoves his stalkers to behind his mineral line and then patrols them a bit. Coincidentally this covers the exact position my medivac is entering. Okay, he's got blink so and a lot of stalkers so 1medivac worth of marines isn't worth worry about it, but it's just another coincidence. 11:20 - My medivac's heading away from his main, he decides to bring all his stalkers back. Not some, all of them. Why would you do this? 12:00 - Okay no threats of drops now since I've pulled everything home, coincidentally this is the time he decides to push out leaving only a MSC to defend. Again just a coincidence. 15:42 - I load up for a doom drop. Prior to this he's kept his entire army defending his 3rd after the engagement in the middle. There was nothing defending his main, nothing defending his natural. Literally nothing. 2 seconds after I head my medivacs from the watch tower toward his main, he pulls ALL of his stalkers back to his main and then warps in a HT. You're right, you probably expect a doom drop coming and multiple pronged attacks - but wouldn't you leave something at your natural? Wouldn't you have a few stalkers in your main prior to this? What are the chances you'd pull all your stalkers back literally 2 seconds after a doom drop heads towards your main? 16:30 - Okay my medivacs from his main are going to join my main army. Coincidentally he pulls literally all his defence from his main. Not just some units, literally everything. Again, who does this? You'd always leave at least a couple of stalkers or a HT or something to feedback, but he pulls back literally everything completely blindly. I wouldn't say he's hacking from that replay, but I would say the string of perfect coincidences are dodgy enough to make me warrant watching more replays. So I did (before the thread on Reddit and even before the post on here) and this game vs "LJR" was the most obvious example in my opinion. It's been covered before so I'll leave it at that.
Wow, that replay speaks for itself. I won't go into full details either as it was discussed in length on reddit, but he directly send his first units to the unsual two proxy factories at their exact location without any scouting. And that just beginning. Surely, there must be a way to get Blizzard to look at those blatant cases...
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