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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
May 30 2012 02:13 GMT
#561
On May 30 2012 10:43 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
Hackers will hack. I never understood the major upset on things like this. If people enjoy their game more hacking, then so be it. If you want to play normal then go and try and beat them. I should say I never have hacked a game, but I loved "god mode" in games I've played. I guess what I am saying is don't take this so seriously, unless you are a pro it doesn't matter. (even then tourny results matter not laderd)


The problem is that a vast majority of tournaments are over the internet. If you are an up and coming pro without the bankroll to attend a major LAN event, that $1500 online tournament that a cheater won instead could make or break your potential career.
HappyTimePANDA
Profile Joined March 2012
United States167 Posts
May 30 2012 02:14 GMT
#562
I've watched people do things like they were maphacking in tourneys. So saying what was and wasn't hacking is hard to say. I don't understand what anyone would care unless it is someone who actually plays in tournies. Why peopl;e are so mad over ladder makes no sense to me
Violet | Leenock | Life | Symbol | Jaedong | DRG
dmasterding
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States205 Posts
May 30 2012 02:15 GMT
#563
On May 30 2012 10:51 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 10:45 aYtDuSteR wrote:
On May 30 2012 10:43 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
Hackers will hack. I never understood the major upset on things like this. If people enjoy their game more hacking, then so be it. If you want to play normal then go and try and beat them. I should say I never have hacked a game, but I loved "god mode" in games I've played. I guess what I am saying is don't take this so seriously, unless you are a pro it doesn't matter. (even then tourny results matter not ladder)


1. Game was not meant to be played with 3rd party cheats and it ruins the enjoyment for people not using hacks.
2. Even though I want to play a normal game how can I when they are hacking. It's intrinsically impossible.


1. not many run with hacks.
2. Aim to be good enough to beat the hack
3. Who cares? I think most people forget the game is meant to be played for fun. Your record isn't some sign of your masculinity

Hackers are a small percentage to legit players


So we shouldn't crack down on hackers who are cheating and are being placed in GM in the place of legitimate Masters players who aren't hacking but are desperately trying to get their place in GM? You can get some ridiculous advantages by hacking - "aiming to be good enough to beat the hack" is probably not feasable.

"most people forget the game is meant to be played for fun. Your record isn't some sign of your masculinity"
I hate this argument so so so so so much. Being competitive about your record doesn't mean that you're not having fun - to me, my rank and achieving that rank IS fun. I derive fun from the feeling of working hard to teach myself the game, getting stronger mechanics and being able to appreciate the fruits of my labor. However, unjustly having a lower rank because people above me are maphacking and blink-stalker-micro-hacking is not fun at all.
No tears now, only dreams.
HappyTimePANDA
Profile Joined March 2012
United States167 Posts
May 30 2012 02:16 GMT
#564
On May 30 2012 11:13 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 10:43 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
Hackers will hack. I never understood the major upset on things like this. If people enjoy their game more hacking, then so be it. If you want to play normal then go and try and beat them. I should say I never have hacked a game, but I loved "god mode" in games I've played. I guess what I am saying is don't take this so seriously, unless you are a pro it doesn't matter. (even then tourny results matter not laderd)


The problem is that a vast majority of tournaments are over the internet. If you are an up and coming pro without the bankroll to attend a major LAN event, that $1500 online tournament that a cheater won instead could make or break your potential career.


Except no one has scremed "hack!" in a tourny
Violet | Leenock | Life | Symbol | Jaedong | DRG
furerkip
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States439 Posts
May 30 2012 02:16 GMT
#565
On May 30 2012 11:08 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 11:05 kerpal wrote:
On May 30 2012 10:58 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
On May 30 2012 10:52 T.O.P. wrote:
Except for Shape (Impa). The rest of these hackers are in denial.


I think they all know exactly what they are doing. Boring in my eyes, but they enjoy it. so more power to them, who cares?

pretty much everyone who plays against them. sometime playing for fun IS playing to win. Working hard for something to have someone take it off you unfairly isn't fun on any level. Competitive play is fun because it is competitive, hacking ruins that.


How many hacked against you? even if people hack it isnt that much compared to to majority. Hacking will never stop, the same as steroids in sports. Who cares? You cant change it and none of the bitching will alter it so why do people keep bitching?


You are a fucking idiot. If we were playing mafia, I wouldn't have any idea if this was a dumbtell or a scumtell, but if I had a lynch that I could use without losing the game, I'd sure as hell use it on you.

Literally, do you actually think this way:

"Well, derp... I can't stop people from hacking. And since no one can purge hackers completely from the game... might as well just let them keep hacking?"

Stupidest logic ever, because it leads to this (inevitably):

"Well, now more people are hacking because hacking is allowed... so I guess, I should start hacking as well, to even the playing field because I know I will inevitably face people who will hack in the future and I need to make sure I can keep up with them."

User was temp banned for this post.
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
May 30 2012 02:17 GMT
#566
Well it is clear that you are either a hacker, troll, or both. Time to stop feeding you.
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
May 30 2012 02:17 GMT
#567
On May 30 2012 11:08 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 11:05 kerpal wrote:
On May 30 2012 10:58 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
On May 30 2012 10:52 T.O.P. wrote:
Except for Shape (Impa). The rest of these hackers are in denial.


I think they all know exactly what they are doing. Boring in my eyes, but they enjoy it. so more power to them, who cares?

pretty much everyone who plays against them. sometime playing for fun IS playing to win. Working hard for something to have someone take it off you unfairly isn't fun on any level. Competitive play is fun because it is competitive, hacking ruins that.


How many hacked against you? even if people hack it isnt that much compared to to majority. Hacking will never stop, the same as steroids in sports. Who cares? You cant change it and none of the bitching will alter it so why do people keep bitching?

as far as i know, no-one has ever hacked against me. hacking will never stop, but does that make it ok?
I fence competitively, if i found out that the guy who knocked me out of the university individual competitions this year was on steroids, i WOULD care.

you're arguing that because we will never stamp out hacking that we shouldn't fight it. that's just stupid.

people will always hate losing to cheaters i'm shocked at the sheer amount of effort you seem to be putting in to defend people's right to cheat.
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-30 02:22:46
May 30 2012 02:20 GMT
#568
On May 30 2012 11:17 kerpal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 11:08 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
On May 30 2012 11:05 kerpal wrote:
On May 30 2012 10:58 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
On May 30 2012 10:52 T.O.P. wrote:
Except for Shape (Impa). The rest of these hackers are in denial.


I think they all know exactly what they are doing. Boring in my eyes, but they enjoy it. so more power to them, who cares?

pretty much everyone who plays against them. sometime playing for fun IS playing to win. Working hard for something to have someone take it off you unfairly isn't fun on any level. Competitive play is fun because it is competitive, hacking ruins that.


How many hacked against you? even if people hack it isnt that much compared to to majority. Hacking will never stop, the same as steroids in sports. Who cares? You cant change it and none of the bitching will alter it so why do people keep bitching?

as far as i know, no-one has ever hacked against me. hacking will never stop, but does that make it ok?
I fence competitively, if i found out that the guy who knocked me out of the university individual competitions this year was on steroids, i WOULD care.

you're arguing that because we will never stamp out hacking that we shouldn't fight it. that's just stupid.

people will always hate losing to cheaters i'm shocked at the sheer amount of effort you seem to be putting in to defend people's right to cheat.


Yo dawg, we'll never stop people from killing. We should just stop sending murderers to jail and accept it.

p.s. stop feeding the troll
HappyTimePANDA
Profile Joined March 2012
United States167 Posts
May 30 2012 02:21 GMT
#569
On May 30 2012 11:15 dmasterding wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 10:51 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
On May 30 2012 10:45 aYtDuSteR wrote:
On May 30 2012 10:43 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
Hackers will hack. I never understood the major upset on things like this. If people enjoy their game more hacking, then so be it. If you want to play normal then go and try and beat them. I should say I never have hacked a game, but I loved "god mode" in games I've played. I guess what I am saying is don't take this so seriously, unless you are a pro it doesn't matter. (even then tourny results matter not ladder)


1. Game was not meant to be played with 3rd party cheats and it ruins the enjoyment for people not using hacks.
2. Even though I want to play a normal game how can I when they are hacking. It's intrinsically impossible.


1. not many run with hacks.
2. Aim to be good enough to beat the hack
3. Who cares? I think most people forget the game is meant to be played for fun. Your record isn't some sign of your masculinity

Hackers are a small percentage to legit players


So we shouldn't crack down on hackers who are cheating and are being placed in GM in the place of legitimate Masters players who aren't hacking but are desperately trying to get their place in GM? You can get some ridiculous advantages by hacking - "aiming to be good enough to beat the hack" is probably not feasable.

"most people forget the game is meant to be played for fun. Your record isn't some sign of your masculinity"
I hate this argument so so so so so much. Being competitive about your record doesn't mean that you're not having fun - to me, my rank and achieving that rank IS fun. I derive fun from the feeling of working hard to teach myself the game, getting stronger mechanics and being able to appreciate the fruits of my labor. However, unjustly having a lower rank because people above me are maphacking and blink-stalker-micro-hacking is not fun at all.


blizzard updates to cancel out the hacks. I just don't think it deserves more attention than that. No matter what people whine about it won't be dealt with any faster. When they update the hacks will go out, and within a day new hacks will be out. Why people like you think you can make the hacks go away is beyond me. I would be happy with a hack free game. I would also like a hack free internet etc
Violet | Leenock | Life | Symbol | Jaedong | DRG
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
May 30 2012 02:21 GMT
#570
On May 30 2012 11:20 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 11:17 kerpal wrote:
On May 30 2012 11:08 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
On May 30 2012 11:05 kerpal wrote:
On May 30 2012 10:58 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
On May 30 2012 10:52 T.O.P. wrote:
Except for Shape (Impa). The rest of these hackers are in denial.


I think they all know exactly what they are doing. Boring in my eyes, but they enjoy it. so more power to them, who cares?

pretty much everyone who plays against them. sometime playing for fun IS playing to win. Working hard for something to have someone take it off you unfairly isn't fun on any level. Competitive play is fun because it is competitive, hacking ruins that.


How many hacked against you? even if people hack it isnt that much compared to to majority. Hacking will never stop, the same as steroids in sports. Who cares? You cant change it and none of the bitching will alter it so why do people keep bitching?

as far as i know, no-one has ever hacked against me. hacking will never stop, but does that make it ok?
I fence competitively, if i found out that the guy who knocked me out of the university individual competitions this year was on steroids, i WOULD care.

you're arguing that because we will never stamp out hacking that we shouldn't fight it. that's just stupid.

people will always hate losing to cheaters i'm shocked at the sheer amount of effort you seem to be putting in to defend people's right to cheat.


Yo dawg, we'll never stop people from killing. We should just stop sending murderers to jail and accept it.

actually when you put it like that it makes so much sense ^^
mahO
Profile Joined April 2011
France274 Posts
May 30 2012 02:22 GMT
#571
On May 30 2012 11:21 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 11:15 dmasterding wrote:
On May 30 2012 10:51 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
On May 30 2012 10:45 aYtDuSteR wrote:
On May 30 2012 10:43 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
Hackers will hack. I never understood the major upset on things like this. If people enjoy their game more hacking, then so be it. If you want to play normal then go and try and beat them. I should say I never have hacked a game, but I loved "god mode" in games I've played. I guess what I am saying is don't take this so seriously, unless you are a pro it doesn't matter. (even then tourny results matter not ladder)


1. Game was not meant to be played with 3rd party cheats and it ruins the enjoyment for people not using hacks.
2. Even though I want to play a normal game how can I when they are hacking. It's intrinsically impossible.


1. not many run with hacks.
2. Aim to be good enough to beat the hack
3. Who cares? I think most people forget the game is meant to be played for fun. Your record isn't some sign of your masculinity

Hackers are a small percentage to legit players


So we shouldn't crack down on hackers who are cheating and are being placed in GM in the place of legitimate Masters players who aren't hacking but are desperately trying to get their place in GM? You can get some ridiculous advantages by hacking - "aiming to be good enough to beat the hack" is probably not feasable.

"most people forget the game is meant to be played for fun. Your record isn't some sign of your masculinity"
I hate this argument so so so so so much. Being competitive about your record doesn't mean that you're not having fun - to me, my rank and achieving that rank IS fun. I derive fun from the feeling of working hard to teach myself the game, getting stronger mechanics and being able to appreciate the fruits of my labor. However, unjustly having a lower rank because people above me are maphacking and blink-stalker-micro-hacking is not fun at all.


blizzard updates to cancel out the hacks. I just don't think it deserves more attention than that. No matter what people whine about it won't be dealt with any faster. When they update the hacks will go out, and within a day new hacks will be out. Why people like you think you can make the hacks go away is beyond me. I would be happy with a hack free game. I would also like a hack free internet etc


So basically, you are whining about other people whining? Smart
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-30 02:25:53
May 30 2012 02:23 GMT
#572
On May 30 2012 10:32 ZweiGaming wrote:
Update to this thread: GameOfDrone has been banned, his 1v1 record has been deleated
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3162105/1/GameOfDrone/

EDIT: here's a friendly conversation with our friend ninetail from in game, first he was claiming GameOfDrone played for him (closed conversation so I can copy that part... and then he claims he just got lucky in that game, switching version every couple minutes)

DSNiNETAiL: dude
you launched a wagon.
claiming on 1 replay
everyone can play blidnly
You: 1 replay of your account hacking
DSNiNETAiL: and do stupid stuff.
Hacking ?
there's no proof.
its proof of me playing blidnly.

You: stalkers dont auto blink
DSNiNETAiL: my account.
You: you have to select them
DSNiNETAiL: nopp
you don't know how that works lol.
You: how blink micro works?
yes, select stalkers by small group/ individual to blink
you had whole army selected, yet stalkers blinking 1 by 1
that is what hacks does
DSNiNETAiL: no , this is what people do , they blink stuff , select their army again.
You: you deserve to be in bronze league you dont know we can see what you select into replays
you dont ever select stalkers individually
in the replay posted
its 100% clear that you were using mh this time
DSNiNETAiL: that still doesn't change the fact you are like shark
You: and earlier you said someone else was playing for you this time
DSNiNETAiL: i didnt.
You: please stick to a god damn version
DSNiNETAiL: you just try to get yourself popular
by using other people.
that will be your downfall.
You: im posting this conversation on TL
DSNiNETAiL: sure , still i don't hack.
<3
shark ;]
you have no proof so you are so desperate.
cause you can't proove im hacking
beacuse i am not.
bye. kid.


Even just that conversation by itself is pretty much a confirmation. I haven't seen someone failing so badly at defending himself for a while.

"You have to select a unit to blink"
"nopp. You're a shark. I didn't hack"
HappyTimePANDA
Profile Joined March 2012
United States167 Posts
May 30 2012 02:23 GMT
#573
On May 30 2012 11:20 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 11:17 kerpal wrote:
On May 30 2012 11:08 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
On May 30 2012 11:05 kerpal wrote:
On May 30 2012 10:58 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
On May 30 2012 10:52 T.O.P. wrote:
Except for Shape (Impa). The rest of these hackers are in denial.


I think they all know exactly what they are doing. Boring in my eyes, but they enjoy it. so more power to them, who cares?

pretty much everyone who plays against them. sometime playing for fun IS playing to win. Working hard for something to have someone take it off you unfairly isn't fun on any level. Competitive play is fun because it is competitive, hacking ruins that.


How many hacked against you? even if people hack it isnt that much compared to to majority. Hacking will never stop, the same as steroids in sports. Who cares? You cant change it and none of the bitching will alter it so why do people keep bitching?

as far as i know, no-one has ever hacked against me. hacking will never stop, but does that make it ok?
I fence competitively, if i found out that the guy who knocked me out of the university individual competitions this year was on steroids, i WOULD care.

you're arguing that because we will never stamp out hacking that we shouldn't fight it. that's just stupid.

people will always hate losing to cheaters i'm shocked at the sheer amount of effort you seem to be putting in to defend people's right to cheat.


Yo dawg, we'll never stop people from killing. We should just stop sending murderers to jail and accept it.

p.s. stop feeding the troll


I never said stop shutting down known hacks, but you will never keep up. same as murderers, try as much as you want it will never go away
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itsjuspeter
Profile Joined November 2010
United States668 Posts
May 30 2012 02:27 GMT
#574
On May 30 2012 11:21 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 11:15 dmasterding wrote:
On May 30 2012 10:51 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
On May 30 2012 10:45 aYtDuSteR wrote:
On May 30 2012 10:43 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
Hackers will hack. I never understood the major upset on things like this. If people enjoy their game more hacking, then so be it. If you want to play normal then go and try and beat them. I should say I never have hacked a game, but I loved "god mode" in games I've played. I guess what I am saying is don't take this so seriously, unless you are a pro it doesn't matter. (even then tourny results matter not ladder)


1. Game was not meant to be played with 3rd party cheats and it ruins the enjoyment for people not using hacks.
2. Even though I want to play a normal game how can I when they are hacking. It's intrinsically impossible.


1. not many run with hacks.
2. Aim to be good enough to beat the hack
3. Who cares? I think most people forget the game is meant to be played for fun. Your record isn't some sign of your masculinity

Hackers are a small percentage to legit players


So we shouldn't crack down on hackers who are cheating and are being placed in GM in the place of legitimate Masters players who aren't hacking but are desperately trying to get their place in GM? You can get some ridiculous advantages by hacking - "aiming to be good enough to beat the hack" is probably not feasable.

"most people forget the game is meant to be played for fun. Your record isn't some sign of your masculinity"
I hate this argument so so so so so much. Being competitive about your record doesn't mean that you're not having fun - to me, my rank and achieving that rank IS fun. I derive fun from the feeling of working hard to teach myself the game, getting stronger mechanics and being able to appreciate the fruits of my labor. However, unjustly having a lower rank because people above me are maphacking and blink-stalker-micro-hacking is not fun at all.


blizzard updates to cancel out the hacks. I just don't think it deserves more attention than that. No matter what people whine about it won't be dealt with any faster. When they update the hacks will go out, and within a day new hacks will be out. Why people like you think you can make the hacks go away is beyond me. I would be happy with a hack free game. I would also like a hack free internet etc


You need to get out of here. Stop trying to derail this thread by telling people that catching cheaters are pointless.
Many of the dedicated fans and players play this game out of enjoyment but to know when you enter a game in which you are more than likely to lose will cause anyone to not have as much fun or enjoyment out of the game as they're entitled to. Your mentality of "this wont do anything" is the same as saying I'm just one person hence nothing will ever change. I'd like you to then just step aside and be that person who goes along life never actually achieving much because of your attitude. I believe what the people in this thread has caught on actually made more success than I thought they would. Banning these 2 hacking GM accounts might not be much but hey, it's a step in the right direction and it might just make blizzard actually wake up and start acting seeing as though how easy it is to cheat the system and actually MH their way into GM.
HappyTimePANDA
Profile Joined March 2012
United States167 Posts
May 30 2012 02:27 GMT
#575
On May 30 2012 11:22 mahO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 11:21 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
On May 30 2012 11:15 dmasterding wrote:
On May 30 2012 10:51 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
On May 30 2012 10:45 aYtDuSteR wrote:
On May 30 2012 10:43 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
Hackers will hack. I never understood the major upset on things like this. If people enjoy their game more hacking, then so be it. If you want to play normal then go and try and beat them. I should say I never have hacked a game, but I loved "god mode" in games I've played. I guess what I am saying is don't take this so seriously, unless you are a pro it doesn't matter. (even then tourny results matter not ladder)


1. Game was not meant to be played with 3rd party cheats and it ruins the enjoyment for people not using hacks.
2. Even though I want to play a normal game how can I when they are hacking. It's intrinsically impossible.


1. not many run with hacks.
2. Aim to be good enough to beat the hack
3. Who cares? I think most people forget the game is meant to be played for fun. Your record isn't some sign of your masculinity

Hackers are a small percentage to legit players


So we shouldn't crack down on hackers who are cheating and are being placed in GM in the place of legitimate Masters players who aren't hacking but are desperately trying to get their place in GM? You can get some ridiculous advantages by hacking - "aiming to be good enough to beat the hack" is probably not feasable.

"most people forget the game is meant to be played for fun. Your record isn't some sign of your masculinity"
I hate this argument so so so so so much. Being competitive about your record doesn't mean that you're not having fun - to me, my rank and achieving that rank IS fun. I derive fun from the feeling of working hard to teach myself the game, getting stronger mechanics and being able to appreciate the fruits of my labor. However, unjustly having a lower rank because people above me are maphacking and blink-stalker-micro-hacking is not fun at all.


blizzard updates to cancel out the hacks. I just don't think it deserves more attention than that. No matter what people whine about it won't be dealt with any faster. When they update the hacks will go out, and within a day new hacks will be out. Why people like you think you can make the hacks go away is beyond me. I would be happy with a hack free game. I would also like a hack free internet etc


So basically, you are whining about other people whining? Smart


I wasn't whining. I just tried to put my thought on it across. I could care less. I just wish others could care less too lol
Violet | Leenock | Life | Symbol | Jaedong | DRG
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-30 02:29:43
May 30 2012 02:29 GMT
#576
On May 30 2012 11:23 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 11:20 Dosey wrote:
On May 30 2012 11:17 kerpal wrote:
On May 30 2012 11:08 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
On May 30 2012 11:05 kerpal wrote:
On May 30 2012 10:58 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
On May 30 2012 10:52 T.O.P. wrote:
Except for Shape (Impa). The rest of these hackers are in denial.


I think they all know exactly what they are doing. Boring in my eyes, but they enjoy it. so more power to them, who cares?

pretty much everyone who plays against them. sometime playing for fun IS playing to win. Working hard for something to have someone take it off you unfairly isn't fun on any level. Competitive play is fun because it is competitive, hacking ruins that.


How many hacked against you? even if people hack it isnt that much compared to to majority. Hacking will never stop, the same as steroids in sports. Who cares? You cant change it and none of the bitching will alter it so why do people keep bitching?

as far as i know, no-one has ever hacked against me. hacking will never stop, but does that make it ok?
I fence competitively, if i found out that the guy who knocked me out of the university individual competitions this year was on steroids, i WOULD care.

you're arguing that because we will never stamp out hacking that we shouldn't fight it. that's just stupid.

people will always hate losing to cheaters i'm shocked at the sheer amount of effort you seem to be putting in to defend people's right to cheat.


Yo dawg, we'll never stop people from killing. We should just stop sending murderers to jail and accept it.

p.s. stop feeding the troll


I never said stop shutting down known hacks, but you will never keep up. same as murderers, try as much as you want it will never go away



On May 30 2012 10:43 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
[...] If people enjoy their game more hacking, then so be it. If you want to play normal then go and try and beat them.[ ...]

dmasterding
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States205 Posts
May 30 2012 02:31 GMT
#577
On May 30 2012 11:27 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
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On May 30 2012 11:22 mahO wrote:
On May 30 2012 11:21 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
On May 30 2012 11:15 dmasterding wrote:
On May 30 2012 10:51 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
On May 30 2012 10:45 aYtDuSteR wrote:
On May 30 2012 10:43 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
Hackers will hack. I never understood the major upset on things like this. If people enjoy their game more hacking, then so be it. If you want to play normal then go and try and beat them. I should say I never have hacked a game, but I loved "god mode" in games I've played. I guess what I am saying is don't take this so seriously, unless you are a pro it doesn't matter. (even then tourny results matter not ladder)


1. Game was not meant to be played with 3rd party cheats and it ruins the enjoyment for people not using hacks.
2. Even though I want to play a normal game how can I when they are hacking. It's intrinsically impossible.


1. not many run with hacks.
2. Aim to be good enough to beat the hack
3. Who cares? I think most people forget the game is meant to be played for fun. Your record isn't some sign of your masculinity

Hackers are a small percentage to legit players


So we shouldn't crack down on hackers who are cheating and are being placed in GM in the place of legitimate Masters players who aren't hacking but are desperately trying to get their place in GM? You can get some ridiculous advantages by hacking - "aiming to be good enough to beat the hack" is probably not feasable.

"most people forget the game is meant to be played for fun. Your record isn't some sign of your masculinity"
I hate this argument so so so so so much. Being competitive about your record doesn't mean that you're not having fun - to me, my rank and achieving that rank IS fun. I derive fun from the feeling of working hard to teach myself the game, getting stronger mechanics and being able to appreciate the fruits of my labor. However, unjustly having a lower rank because people above me are maphacking and blink-stalker-micro-hacking is not fun at all.


blizzard updates to cancel out the hacks. I just don't think it deserves more attention than that. No matter what people whine about it won't be dealt with any faster. When they update the hacks will go out, and within a day new hacks will be out. Why people like you think you can make the hacks go away is beyond me. I would be happy with a hack free game. I would also like a hack free internet etc


So basically, you are whining about other people whining? Smart


I wasn't whining. I just tried to put my thought on it across. I could care less. I just wish others could care less too lol


Detection of hacks is actually incredibly difficult BTW, it's not as easy as "Blizzard continuing to patch and just patching hacks until there are no more hacks". Blizzard's punishing of the individual hackers discourages people from hacking because it costs $$$ in order to get a new account.
No tears now, only dreams.
Soloturtle
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada333 Posts
May 30 2012 02:32 GMT
#578
Lol, that ninetails argument is so funny.
Funny how stupid people these hackers can be.


DSNiNETAiL: no , this is what people do , they blink stuff , select their army again

LOL, funny stuff
Cool
HappyTimePANDA
Profile Joined March 2012
United States167 Posts
May 30 2012 02:36 GMT
#579
On May 30 2012 11:27 itsjuspeter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 11:21 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
On May 30 2012 11:15 dmasterding wrote:
On May 30 2012 10:51 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
On May 30 2012 10:45 aYtDuSteR wrote:
On May 30 2012 10:43 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
Hackers will hack. I never understood the major upset on things like this. If people enjoy their game more hacking, then so be it. If you want to play normal then go and try and beat them. I should say I never have hacked a game, but I loved "god mode" in games I've played. I guess what I am saying is don't take this so seriously, unless you are a pro it doesn't matter. (even then tourny results matter not ladder)


1. Game was not meant to be played with 3rd party cheats and it ruins the enjoyment for people not using hacks.
2. Even though I want to play a normal game how can I when they are hacking. It's intrinsically impossible.


1. not many run with hacks.
2. Aim to be good enough to beat the hack
3. Who cares? I think most people forget the game is meant to be played for fun. Your record isn't some sign of your masculinity

Hackers are a small percentage to legit players


So we shouldn't crack down on hackers who are cheating and are being placed in GM in the place of legitimate Masters players who aren't hacking but are desperately trying to get their place in GM? You can get some ridiculous advantages by hacking - "aiming to be good enough to beat the hack" is probably not feasable.

"most people forget the game is meant to be played for fun. Your record isn't some sign of your masculinity"
I hate this argument so so so so so much. Being competitive about your record doesn't mean that you're not having fun - to me, my rank and achieving that rank IS fun. I derive fun from the feeling of working hard to teach myself the game, getting stronger mechanics and being able to appreciate the fruits of my labor. However, unjustly having a lower rank because people above me are maphacking and blink-stalker-micro-hacking is not fun at all.


blizzard updates to cancel out the hacks. I just don't think it deserves more attention than that. No matter what people whine about it won't be dealt with any faster. When they update the hacks will go out, and within a day new hacks will be out. Why people like you think you can make the hacks go away is beyond me. I would be happy with a hack free game. I would also like a hack free internet etc


You need to get out of here. Stop trying to derail this thread by telling people that catching cheaters are pointless.
Many of the dedicated fans and players play this game out of enjoyment but to know when you enter a game in which you are more than likely to lose will cause anyone to not have as much fun or enjoyment out of the game as they're entitled to. Your mentality of "this wont do anything" is the same as saying I'm just one person hence nothing will ever change. I'd like you to then just step aside and be that person who goes along life never actually achieving much because of your attitude. I believe what the people in this thread has caught on actually made more success than I thought they would. Banning these 2 hacking GM accounts might not be much but hey, it's a step in the right direction and it might just make blizzard actually wake up and start acting seeing as though how easy it is to cheat the system and actually MH their way into GM.


Settle down and separate your sentences. I never was against banning hackers.

They would be banned eventually anyways. you joining the witch hunt won't speed it up and if it does you could ban innocents. but whatever lol i think I've said my point in the threads
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kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
May 30 2012 02:38 GMT
#580
On May 30 2012 11:36 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 11:27 itsjuspeter wrote:
On May 30 2012 11:21 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
On May 30 2012 11:15 dmasterding wrote:
On May 30 2012 10:51 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
On May 30 2012 10:45 aYtDuSteR wrote:
On May 30 2012 10:43 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
Hackers will hack. I never understood the major upset on things like this. If people enjoy their game more hacking, then so be it. If you want to play normal then go and try and beat them. I should say I never have hacked a game, but I loved "god mode" in games I've played. I guess what I am saying is don't take this so seriously, unless you are a pro it doesn't matter. (even then tourny results matter not ladder)


1. Game was not meant to be played with 3rd party cheats and it ruins the enjoyment for people not using hacks.
2. Even though I want to play a normal game how can I when they are hacking. It's intrinsically impossible.


1. not many run with hacks.
2. Aim to be good enough to beat the hack
3. Who cares? I think most people forget the game is meant to be played for fun. Your record isn't some sign of your masculinity

Hackers are a small percentage to legit players


So we shouldn't crack down on hackers who are cheating and are being placed in GM in the place of legitimate Masters players who aren't hacking but are desperately trying to get their place in GM? You can get some ridiculous advantages by hacking - "aiming to be good enough to beat the hack" is probably not feasable.

"most people forget the game is meant to be played for fun. Your record isn't some sign of your masculinity"
I hate this argument so so so so so much. Being competitive about your record doesn't mean that you're not having fun - to me, my rank and achieving that rank IS fun. I derive fun from the feeling of working hard to teach myself the game, getting stronger mechanics and being able to appreciate the fruits of my labor. However, unjustly having a lower rank because people above me are maphacking and blink-stalker-micro-hacking is not fun at all.


blizzard updates to cancel out the hacks. I just don't think it deserves more attention than that. No matter what people whine about it won't be dealt with any faster. When they update the hacks will go out, and within a day new hacks will be out. Why people like you think you can make the hacks go away is beyond me. I would be happy with a hack free game. I would also like a hack free internet etc


You need to get out of here. Stop trying to derail this thread by telling people that catching cheaters are pointless.
Many of the dedicated fans and players play this game out of enjoyment but to know when you enter a game in which you are more than likely to lose will cause anyone to not have as much fun or enjoyment out of the game as they're entitled to. Your mentality of "this wont do anything" is the same as saying I'm just one person hence nothing will ever change. I'd like you to then just step aside and be that person who goes along life never actually achieving much because of your attitude. I believe what the people in this thread has caught on actually made more success than I thought they would. Banning these 2 hacking GM accounts might not be much but hey, it's a step in the right direction and it might just make blizzard actually wake up and start acting seeing as though how easy it is to cheat the system and actually MH their way into GM.


Settle down and separate your sentences. I never was against banning hackers.

They would be banned eventually anyways. you joining the witch hunt won't speed it up and if it does you could ban innocents. but whatever lol i think I've said my point in the threads

Yes... Yes I think you have 'said your point'. I wonder if you've registered that even on the internet what you're saying sounds stupid.
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