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Falconblade
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1035 Posts
May 11 2012 18:22 GMT
#121
The funny thing is, despite me not buying into all his hype, he's more than capable of making such comments about balance in comparison to the vast majority of people on this forum. He's atleast top Korean masters, which has to be greater than the average skill of posters on this forum whining about balance one way or another.
CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
May 11 2012 18:22 GMT
#122
On May 12 2012 03:19 Tsuki.eu wrote:
cool interview, even flash whines about T late game!!

He actually said he has problem defending all-ins, he commented on the ghost nothing more.
Torra
Profile Joined October 2011
Norway469 Posts
May 11 2012 18:22 GMT
#123
Every T pro, even KR are saying that P is OP. Every time they're asked a question about balance, they say P is OP. Now, the first thing BW pros are saying is that P is OP.
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
May 11 2012 18:22 GMT
#124
Protoss OP. What specifically? All of it. xD

Cool interview, too bad he likes marine marauder though.
I think esports is pretty nice.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
May 11 2012 18:23 GMT
#125
i wonder how much of this is just PR fluff and hype and what are his actual opinions. this guy has huge sponsors organizations behind him.
catleaves
Profile Joined December 2010
United States506 Posts
May 11 2012 18:23 GMT
#126
thank you for the interview! :D
^^
Kazuki
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands121 Posts
May 11 2012 18:24 GMT
#127
On May 12 2012 03:22 CrazyBirdman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 03:19 Tsuki.eu wrote:
cool interview, even flash whines about T late game!!

He actually said he has problem defending all-ins, he commented on the ghost nothing more.


Read again.
Capook
Profile Joined April 2010
United States122 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 18:25:41
May 11 2012 18:24 GMT
#128
This makes me sad. Wrist problems, a new (and less balanced) game, not enough time to learn it, having to play two games at once... it seems like the universe is conspiring to make flash a mortal. I guess this just confirms what I've known all along in other contexts... there is no god. =( =( =(
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
May 11 2012 18:25 GMT
#129
...and god said Protoss is OP so they shall be nerfed.
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 11 2012 18:25 GMT
#130
Great interview!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
May 11 2012 18:25 GMT
#131
On May 12 2012 02:55 Zelniq wrote:
Claims he's a noob, but then also says the game's clearly imbalanced. Thanks flash you just excused about 90% of the type of posts in this forum


Quod licet Jovi non licet bovi.

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Translation: God may do what scrubs may not.
"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
MilesTeg
Profile Joined September 2010
France1271 Posts
May 11 2012 18:25 GMT
#132
Please switch to Zerg you'll love it! Only good stuff coming for us too in HotS, it's the best decision!
Bajsgrodan
Profile Joined November 2010
Afghanistan408 Posts
May 11 2012 18:25 GMT
#133
My body was not ready to read this article. And he agrees abaut protoss OP? Oh the glory! Flash will save the game! Such a humble champion he is though.
My name sucks!
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 18:29:59
May 11 2012 18:26 GMT
#134
That just degraded him about 5 levels in my book. Claims hes a noob and still complains about balance like that. Jesus didnt he learn anything about professionalism through all years of BW?
Phobbers
Profile Joined May 2011
773 Posts
May 11 2012 18:26 GMT
#135
On May 12 2012 02:55 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 02:39 Myles wrote:
lol Toss is getting so much hate from the other races, who are arguing with each other who is the weakest.

And I'm with him in hoping that when HotS comes out it levels the playing field a bit.


I loved the part where he was talking about all the things that were OP. I can see him playing his first game against protoss "Oh god, WHY? Why can you do that? You couldn't do any of this stuff in BW! Why can you make a wall any time you want? Why can your dragoons teleport? Why did zealots just come out of that umbrella?"

Though I am sure BW protoss players are asking "Why are marines good? What is there rocket that keeps landing on their minerals? Who is that large man with the marines that shoots rockets? OH GOD! WHY IS HE SO FAST? WHY IS THE DROPSHIP HEALING HIM?"

This is one of the best posts I've seen in a while. God damn umbrella warp-prism made me laugh far harder than it should have.
EG/C9/ALL/TSM
Mehukannu
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland421 Posts
May 11 2012 18:27 GMT
#136
Ooh boy... I feel more terran nerfs coming as blizzard is probably trying to put Flash on the same level as other pros. x]
C=('. ' Q)
takingbackoj
Profile Joined December 2010
United States684 Posts
May 11 2012 18:27 GMT
#137
On May 12 2012 02:23 WarrickHunt wrote:
Swap to zerg, for the love of god please

My feelings exactly.
Get the hell outta here Der Beek, your'e ruining my moment.
Cipher32
Profile Joined April 2011
United States52 Posts
May 11 2012 18:27 GMT
#138
On May 12 2012 02:55 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 02:39 Myles wrote:
lol Toss is getting so much hate from the other races, who are arguing with each other who is the weakest.

And I'm with him in hoping that when HotS comes out it levels the playing field a bit.


I loved the part where he was talking about all the things that were OP. I can see him playing his first game against protoss "Oh god, WHY? Why can you do that? You couldn't do any of this stuff in BW! Why can you make a wall any time you want? Why can your dragoons teleport? Why did zealots just come out of that umbrella?"

Though I am sure BW protoss players are asking "Why are marines good? What is there rocket that keeps landing on their minerals? Who is that large man with the marines that shoots rockets? OH GOD! WHY IS HE SO FAST? WHY IS THE DROPSHIP HEALING HIM?"
I lol'd hard I can imagine any pro that switches, instantly thinking that his original race is the absolute worst. Someone need to nudge flash and tell him to land some mules
HappyTimePANDA
Profile Joined March 2012
United States167 Posts
May 11 2012 18:27 GMT
#139
On May 12 2012 03:21 KadaverBB wrote:
Did not expect Flash to comment on balance.
Maybe he can/will change his mind once he is more familiar with the game.

I am only in low masters, so i will just leave the balance discussion to more experienced minds :D


I hope he was just throwing people off because unless he just can't adapt his playstyle there is no reason for him to say Terran is underpowered enough for him to even consider changing races. If he thinks Terran is horrible then he really hasn't played that much or every other pro missed a lot.
Violet | Leenock | Life | Symbol | Jaedong | DRG
Happystreet
Profile Joined January 2011
550 Posts
May 11 2012 18:28 GMT
#140
Flash says Protoss is OP. Get on it. NOW.
MKP | Jinro | Thorzain | Flash | Bomber | Amaz
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