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Random2732
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada51 Posts
June 21 2012 02:36 GMT
#161
Aww was gonna buy tickets this weekend, been looking forward to it for a while
added to wait list, hoping for ticket T.T
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
June 21 2012 03:12 GMT
#162
I really wish I could go. I've never been to Canada and this would be the perfect excuse to finally go
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
NASL.tv
Profile Joined April 2011
699 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-21 17:35:16
June 21 2012 17:34 GMT
#163
Updated WildCard and Playoffs Brackets:
The winners of the WildCards will be ordered for Playoffs seeding based on their seed value going into the WildCards. They will then be assigned seeds in the Playoffs according to this order. WildCard Seed 1 becomes Playoffs seed 9, and so on.

For instance, Thorzain is seeded as #16 in the WildCards, so if he wins the WildCards, he would be the 8th highest seed, and would then face Puzzle in the Playoffs. Meanwhile, if Ret wins, he is the highest seed player in the WildCards, and thus would face DeMuslim in the playoffs.

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Falconblade
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1035 Posts
June 21 2012 17:45 GMT
#164
What's the prize-pool looking like currently? Can we get a clarification on that? Payout to top 8 only? Or top 24? Or top 16? Seems relevant with this structure and only top 8 going into finals.
Lega-
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada141 Posts
June 21 2012 18:08 GMT
#165
Can anyone comment on the 'wait list' for ticket purchases? Is it sold out? What are the chances of getting tickets if you are on the wait list?
Liquidsmoke
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8 Posts
June 21 2012 18:51 GMT
#166
Anyone have info on if they'll restock?
Think there will be scalpers there?
Or is there simply anyone here willing to sell me a spare?
jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
June 21 2012 19:32 GMT
#167
On June 22 2012 03:08 Lega- wrote:
Can anyone comment on the 'wait list' for ticket purchases? Is it sold out? What are the chances of getting tickets if you are on the wait list?


Yeah, I'm interested as well. I know its my fault for waiting so long to book tickets, but if more come available I'd love to snatch some up and I'd be interested on hearing if more will become available.
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HoboJoe20
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada63 Posts
June 21 2012 19:37 GMT
#168
On June 22 2012 04:32 jakethesnake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 03:08 Lega- wrote:
Can anyone comment on the 'wait list' for ticket purchases? Is it sold out? What are the chances of getting tickets if you are on the wait list?


Yeah, I'm interested as well. I know its my fault for waiting so long to book tickets, but if more come available I'd love to snatch some up and I'd be interested on hearing if more will become available.

You're not alone on this mission!

and to think, when I went to MLG Columbus, we bought our spectator passes like 2 weeks in advance with no trouble. SC2 comes to Canada ...
Gatesleeper
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada300 Posts
June 21 2012 19:45 GMT
#169
Ack! What a confusing bracket setup! I've been staring at that chart for 10 minutes and I think I finally got it, I think.

You use Ret and Thorzain as examples because Ret is seed 1 and Thorzain is seed 16. If Ret wins, regardless of how the other 7 matches turn out, he's guaranteed to be #1 seed still. If Thorzain wins, regardless of how the other 7 matches go, he's guaranteed to be #8, because everyone else in the wildcards had a higher entry seed than him.

But what about the other 14 players? What their final playoff seed is dependent on how the other wildcard matches go. Take Strelok for example. He faces TT1 in his wildcard match as seed 2. If He wins his match, and Ret also wins his match, Strelok's final seed will still be 2, and he will face Stephano in the playoffs. But what if Strelok wins his match and Ret loses? Since Ret is the only player that had a higher entry seed than Strelok coming into the wildcards, that means Strelok becomes the #1 seed, and he faces DeMuslim in the playoffs.
For TT1, if he wins and Thorzain wins, he becomes #7 seed, and he faces HerO. But if he wins and Thorzain loses, there is nobody with a lower seed than him (15), and he becomes #8 seed, facing Puzzle.

And that's just second simplest scenario for a player. For the wildcard players seeded 3 to 14, it gets even more complicated to the point where there's so much depending on this or that other player winning or losing, they have no idea what their final seed will be and hence no idea who they will be playing in the playoffs.

The way NASL.tv explains it, it sounds really straightfoward, but it's only straightforward from Ret and Thorzain's perspective. They know who they will face if they win their match. For the rest of the players, it's a tossup.
Gatesleeper
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada300 Posts
June 21 2012 19:52 GMT
#170
Also, from the other thread:
On June 22 2012 02:50 Zeppelin535 wrote:
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On June 22 2012 02:41 Gatesleeper wrote:
Really disappointed that the NASL Toronto finals is going to be final 8 instead of final 16. How are they gonna stretch out an 8 player tournament over 2 days? Sounds like there's gonna be a lot of snore time.

This is to be the first premier tournament to be held in my hometown and I was really looking foward to seeing as many of the top international stars compete live in person. Now that number is gonna be cut in half. What if Stephano, MC, DeMuslim, Puma, etc. are knocked out of the tournament at the Round of 16? Then they won't be coming to Toronto and I and all the other Canadian fans like myself won't be seeing them.

The WCS qualifiers is a sorry substitute for not having the NASL top 16. Promoting local players is great and it's nice that they'll get to play at a big event, but watching unknown semi-professional players just isn't as exciting to watch as watching players you already know and love.

The only people I recognize from the Canadian qualifiers page on liquipedia are Ryze and Attero. I assume HuK and TT1 are going to be competing as well whether or not they make it to the top 8 in the NASL? Any word about whether other Canadian pros will be showing up? (Kiwikaki, Slush, Drewbie, dde, Scarlett(!), Desrow, Stalife)


Agreed, I am also very upset about this change in format. The regular season seems all the more meaningless. You can get first place in the entire league and you still need to win another BO5 to make it to the offline event. Last season top 2 in your group guaranteed you a spot at the offline finals, which is far simpler a format and far better for the players. Overall very disappointed with this change by NASL.

Also, I question whether or not the players are fully aware of this change in format. From watching recent interviews with HuK and him talking about his upcoming tournaments, he lists NASL as if he thinks he's already at the offline finals, when in reality he still needs to win a likely difficult BO5 to make it there.


It's not too late to mend the schedule and invite the top 16 to Toronto, NASL! Really, it isn't!
NASL.tv
Profile Joined April 2011
699 Posts
June 22 2012 02:25 GMT
#171
To help explain it a bit further:

  1. Take the list of winners of the WildCard games.
  2. Sort them in order numerically by their original Seed #.
  3. The 1st name is WildCard Seed 1, which becomes Playoffs Seed 9.
  4. The 2nd name is WildCard Seed 2, which becomes Playoffs Seed 10.
  5. The 3rd name is WildCard Seed 3, which becomes Playoffs Seed 11.
  6. The 4th name is WildCard Seed 4, which becomes Playoffs Seed 12.
  7. The 5th name is WildCard Seed 5, which becomes Playoffs Seed 13.
  8. The 6th name is WildCard Seed 6, which becomes Playoffs Seed 14.
  9. The 7th name is WildCard Seed 7, which becomes Playoffs Seed 15.
  10. The 8th name is WildCard Seed 8, which becomes Playoffs Seed 16.


Yes, the 4th seeded person in the WildCard race could end up anywhere from 9th to 12th Playoffs seed, depending on who wins that was ranked better than him. If no one in the WildCards who was ranked better than him wins in the WildCards, he becomes the top person to survive the WildCards, and thus becomes Seed 9 in the Playoffs. If everyone ranked better than him in the WildCards survives the WildCards, then he becomes Seed 12 in the Playoffs.

This is why the WildCards are wild: how you are seeded in the playoffs is contingent on who else survives the WildCards.

The Divisional winners, plus the next 3 highest ranking 2nd place divisional finishers, were all awarded with a guaranteed playoffs spot, just like in the past. The next 16 people simply have to go through one more round of elimination before they can move on to the Playoffs.
Delleh
Profile Joined July 2010
13 Posts
June 22 2012 03:19 GMT
#172
We need more tickets! This is the first good tournament in Canada, it has very high demand! Wish I had heard about this sooner, please give more tickets for sale.
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-22 16:15:06
June 22 2012 16:12 GMT
#173
didn't think they'd really sell out.. interested in more info on the waiting list and if it's still possible to buy tickets.

also.. is there a thread or anyone who's carpooling from London?

XD
~ The Ultimate Weapon
nooboon
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2602 Posts
June 22 2012 16:17 GMT
#174
I wish i could go but my friends were busy and i didn't want to go alone. Hopefully this will be a catalyst for more events in Canada.
Strategos
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada132 Posts
June 22 2012 19:31 GMT
#175
Info on wait list please!!!!!!
"Good news MLG fans, WE HAVE CHAIRS THIS YEAR!"
NASL.tv
Profile Joined April 2011
699 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-22 23:46:00
June 22 2012 23:45 GMT
#176
Tickets Update:
We are working with the venue to maximize capacity. If you are on the waiting list, please check your email for updates. We want to accommodate as many people as possible so that no one misses out on the fun. <3
jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
June 23 2012 13:59 GMT
#177
On June 23 2012 08:45 NASL.tv wrote:
Tickets Update:
We are working with the venue to maximize capacity. If you are on the waiting list, please check your email for updates. We want to accommodate as many people as possible so that no one misses out on the fun. <3


Thanks for the update. I actually just got an email saying tickets were available for me 'for a limited time', but when I clicked there weren't any. I'm guessing the limited time is quite short since I checked before I went to sleep and first thing when I got up!
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HoboJoe20
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada63 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-23 14:53:18
June 23 2012 14:04 GMT
#178
On June 23 2012 22:59 jakethesnake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2012 08:45 NASL.tv wrote:
Tickets Update:
We are working with the venue to maximize capacity. If you are on the waiting list, please check your email for updates. We want to accommodate as many people as possible so that no one misses out on the fun. <3


Thanks for the update. I actually just got an email saying tickets were available for me 'for a limited time', but when I clicked there weren't any. I'm guessing the limited time is quite short since I checked before I went to sleep and first thing when I got up!

I too have the same problem (I received my email at 2:30am and by the time I checked it at 9am it was unavailable ...)
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
June 23 2012 14:49 GMT
#179
Yeah, same. People on the wait list should have at least 24 hours to claim their tickets, what with time zone differences and all that.
Zeppelin535
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada262 Posts
June 23 2012 16:34 GMT
#180
Thank you NASL! I'd much rather watch amazing CSL and WCS matches live at the finals in Toronto than these mediocre RO16 matches. Ret vs Demuslim? MC vs Galaxy? HerO vs Ryung? HuK vs Ganzi? What a snooze-fest.

Brilliant move with the format change for the finals. I'm also quite pleased at the prospect that we might not even see HuK, Stephano, MC, etc. at the finals depending on how the matches go.

Overall very excited for the WCS&CSL event. Should be some top notch play and make for an exciting weekend! That little 8 man side tournament might be decent too.
Bones (P) | @BonesSC2 | twitch.tv/Bones535
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