Now if DotA2 takes LoL's spot, we know who's at fault, yeah?
I kid hahahahaha.
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boxturtle
United States224 Posts
Now if DotA2 takes LoL's spot, we know who's at fault, yeah? I kid hahahahaha. | ||
Precipice
United States121 Posts
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tztztz
Germany314 Posts
if you dont like something, thats ok, thats completly fine, but why isn't if sufficient just not to consume it anymore? why do people feel the need to be vocal about every single thing they don't like, especially in such an insensitive way. casting a sc2 game is not the single most important thing in the world. if the caster is someone you dont like, tough luck, deal with it, accept the fact that the world is not spining around you, thats what grown up people do every day, dealing with things they dont enjoy. if you dont like it so much that you hate it and aren't able to watch it, seriously, there is something wrong with you. everyone who is not completly stupid can see that the way this community treated moletrap from the beginning to the end was anything but fair. | ||
ogrebutcher
United Kingdom11 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
maartendq
Belgium3115 Posts
On April 17 2012 08:33 Zealot Lord wrote: Show nested quote + On April 17 2012 07:52 Nibbler89 wrote: I was always disappointed with moletrap's casting but that's not what was frustrating. The frustrating thing is, unlike his fellow casters who make threads to get feedback on their casting and how to improve, moletrap never made one even though he was widely considered to be one of the weaker casters. Maybe he feels he doesn't have to, but I just don't know how it's not embarrassing / shameful when khaldor, wolf, and husky, all have threads asking for feedback good OR bad, so they can improve. Yes they get trolls who hate on them, Yes moletrap will probably get more. But the others casters don't care, they are willing to sift through the garbage to find the constructive criticism, and look at how quickly they have improved compared to moletrap.(wolf and husky in particular imo) If you've read / understand the book art of war, have rudimentary sc2 knowledge, and a passion for casting / improving, you can become a great sc2 caster. Now he's moving on to another game which I would think requires even more game knowledge than Sc2(just the # of champions,moves and items alone I think requires more "memorizing" type game knowledge) and I'm sure in his mind he thinks it will be different but it's the attitude that's the problem and I wouldn't be surprised if the same complaints begin to arise from more knowledgeable LoL viewers. I don't know if moletrap doesn't like criticism or maybe his fans have really convinced him he's a good caster, that all the criticism is just "trolling" or "haters gonna hate" and all people who don't like him as a caster must have some deeply personal vendetta with him. It's not the case, tbh tasteless recently has been getting as bad or worse than moletrap as well. Korean casting is already leagues(lol) ahead of foreign casting, and anyone who saw the subbed gsl cast knows what they are missing. The higher the standard of casting goes up the more motivated / pressured casters will be to do a good job and the more fans sc2 will attract. From Gheed's blog: One of the most aggravating things when trying to teach someone is asking them the question, "why did you do that?" and having them respond, "I don't know." If decisions are made without reasons behind them, improvement will never happen; it cannot happen. I feel like this is why tasteless / moletraps casting is weak. They aren't thinking before they say stuff, if they say things without reason, how can they improve. It also shows in how often they retract things or even literally say " i don't know why I just said that" ~_~ Tbh I'm ready for Wolftosis code s. Perfectly said, great post. And I have to agree that Tasteless is starting to drop off, I mean, I love the guy, but it just feels like his level of casting right now is every bit the same as when he first started (if not perhaps slightly deteriorating). I don't know why, but the things he says are getting more and more bland - I feel like he literally echoes Artosis too often nowadays (rarely do we hear him have his own separate opinions), and uses the same phrases over and over again. Anyways, back to topic, I wasn't a fan of moletrap, but I appreciate his efforts and what he tried to do for the community, hope he does better in LoL. Did he ever state the reason for leaving SC2? That's what I personally want to know the most~ Repeating the same phrases over and over again has been a problem of Tasteless for years, even when he still casted BW for GOM. He is one of the few casters with charisma, even though he's not quite as passionate about SC2 as he was about Brood War. | ||
AvengerAzrael
Lebanon20 Posts
Blizzard made sc2 an impenetrable fortress and soon enough people will switch to the game with more flexibility. | ||
xxAoPxx
Germany25 Posts
All the best, hopefully LoL suits the guy better. | ||
LegendLength
19 Posts
On April 17 2012 16:26 tztztz wrote:why do people feel the need to be vocal about every single thing they don't like, especially in such an insensitive way. For me, watching code A was unbearable. I mean literally unbearable. Call me a troll, call me a hater, whatever. I could not watch code A when moletrap was casting. Perhaps this is the wrong place to put this seeing as though moletrap has left GOM. But there seems to be a lot of people in this thread either: A. Asking why so many people dislike him. or B. Implying there is some sort of noob hate culture that has no intellectual authority. For A, my personal reason is I don't like his voice. I actuallly think I have a worse voice than moletrap yet I couldn't stand to hear that whiny, screechy voice. For B, it's time to grow up and accept the weight of other people's opinions while avoiding logical fallacies. | ||
drew-chan
Malaysia1517 Posts
Can't believe I've been watching you for so many years now. Good luck with LoL and I will enjoy watching your casts still! | ||
Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
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SolidSMD
Belgium408 Posts
On April 17 2012 16:26 tztztz wrote: there are 2 types of people, people with a passion for something, and people without. the fact that the people with a passion for something are outnumbered by 1 to 10 is already sad by itself, but you whats the saddest thing about the world we're live in right now? its the fact that the people without a passion for something, people who don't contribute anything, constantly trying to spoil the party for the people who do have passion and do contribute, to the point that they dont wanna do what they so anymore. if you dont like something, thats ok, thats completly fine, but why isn't if sufficient just not to consume it anymore? why do people feel the need to be vocal about every single thing they don't like, especially in such an insensitive way. casting a sc2 game is not the single most important thing in the world. if the caster is someone you dont like, tough luck, deal with it, accept the fact that the world is not spining around you, thats what grown up people do every day, dealing with things they dont enjoy. if you dont like it so much that you hate it and aren't able to watch it, seriously, there is something wrong with you. everyone who is not completly stupid can see that the way this community treated moletrap from the beginning to the end was anything but fair. lol, flatout wrong. As stated before, moletrap was a product of gom towards us, if people don't like that product, they will a) stop watching GSL. b) complain about it. What's the best solution for GOM do you think, if they want to keep their viewers? There's also a lot of passionate people that watch GSL that just don't like Moletrap's casting, for whatever reason it is, and in our own passionate way, we're trying fight for better casters. Hard facts are, the amount of viewers that actually like Moletrap's casting are heavily outnumbered. Tough luck, deal with it. | ||
thexile
8 Posts
P.S. Moderators, a warning to me please! User was warned for this post | ||
m0ck
4194 Posts
Good luck in the future, moletrap! | ||
Capook
United States122 Posts
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corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
Some of the hate he gets seems ridiculous, but we were not much nicer with Klazart ont tl back then, so I guess nothing changes. Sad. And yeah, I can see why a bw fan would much rather be casting anything on OGN than on GOM. Plus he will get a new chance with the LoL community. | ||
brrip
United Kingdom211 Posts
EDIT: just realised that he actually came to post on this thread, but without actually saying anything at all. | ||
Mlex
Canada324 Posts
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Singapore129 Posts
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