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YipMan
Profile Joined April 2011
372 Posts
April 16 2012 22:52 GMT
#541
On April 16 2012 18:43 dragonborn wrote:
bye bye.

now moletrap is LoL's problem, gl to LoL spectators..

User was temp banned for this post.


Kinda mean, i still LOL'ed at that ^_+
I scream, you scream, we all scream for ice cream
baba1
Profile Joined April 2005
Canada355 Posts
April 16 2012 22:54 GMT
#542
I enjoyed moletrap the most when he first started commentating BW games.
Now that hes making a career of it, I'm not fan very much.
Good luck in the future Moletrap !
noq uote
RavenLoud
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1100 Posts
April 16 2012 22:56 GMT
#543
On April 17 2012 07:54 baba1 wrote:
I enjoyed moletrap the most when he first started commentating BW games.
Now that hes making a career of it, I'm not fan very much.
Good luck in the future Moletrap !

Same here.

It just seemed to me that his casting was way too forced at gom. He obviously lost his passion either because SC2 did not measure up to BW or because of his personal life.

I don't judge him for it though, I'm happy for his new career and hope him the best of luck.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
April 16 2012 23:05 GMT
#544
GLGL at OGN Moletrap.
You're doing well at it, and you're appreciated (at least by me lol).

Also, Morch is like, the best name for a casting duo ever.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
April 16 2012 23:06 GMT
#545
On April 17 2012 07:52 Nibbler89 wrote:
I was always disappointed with moletrap's casting but that's not what was frustrating. The frustrating thing is, unlike his fellow casters who make threads to get feedback on their casting and how to improve, moletrap never made one even though he was widely considered to be one of the weaker casters.

Maybe he feels he doesn't have to, but I just don't know how it's not embarrassing / shameful when khaldor, wolf, and husky, all have threads asking for feedback good OR bad, so they can improve. Yes they get trolls who hate on them, Yes moletrap will probably get more. But the others casters don't care, they are willing to sift through the garbage to find the constructive criticism, and look at how quickly they have improved compared to moletrap.(wolf and husky in particular imo)
If you've read / understand the book art of war, have rudimentary sc2 knowledge, and a passion for casting / improving, you can become a great sc2 caster.

Now he's moving on to another game which I would think requires even more game knowledge than Sc2(just the # of champions,moves and items alone I think requires more "memorizing" type game knowledge) and I'm sure in his mind he thinks it will be different but it's the attitude that's the problem and I wouldn't be surprised if the same complaints begin to arise from more knowledgeable LoL viewers. I don't know if moletrap doesn't like criticism or maybe his fans have really convinced him he's a good caster, that all the criticism is just "trolling" or "haters gonna hate" and all people who don't like him as a caster must have some deeply personal vendetta with him. It's not the case, tbh tasteless recently has been getting as bad or worse than moletrap as well.

Korean casting is already leagues(lol) ahead of foreign casting, and anyone who saw the subbed gsl cast knows what they are missing. The higher the standard of casting goes up the more motivated / pressured casters will be to do a good job and the more fans sc2 will attract.

From Gheed's blog: One of the most aggravating things when trying to teach someone is asking them the question, "why did you do that?" and having them respond, "I don't know." If decisions are made without reasons behind them, improvement will never happen; it cannot happen.
I feel like this is why tasteless / moletraps casting is weak. They aren't thinking before they say stuff, if they say things without reason, how can they improve. It also shows in how often they retract things or even literally say " i don't know why I just said that" ~_~ Tbh I'm ready for Wolftosis code s.


Quoting this because it's a good post. I agree heavily with it, and I think this is where most of Moletrap's 'hate' comes from. I think it's pretty commonly accepted that he knew considerably less about the game than most of his peers, but I don't fault him for that - there is a point where everyone knew very little about the game, right? But he did nothing to change that image, and kept going on as a 'clueless caster' which just made him so incredibly frustrating to listen to when he would say things that are just flat wrong, and myself as a lowly diamond player even knew it was wrong. Couple that with little things like always cutting off his co-caster to add nothing (he got better about this eventually), or personally irritating things (such as his voice, I don't fault him obviously because he can't control that, I just found it off putting) and it makes for a less enjoyable experience.

I wish the guy well as he obviously has passion for what he does, I just hope he realizes he still has room to grow.
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Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
April 16 2012 23:07 GMT
#546
Let's see how long LoL stays number 1 esport.
esports
Kamakiri
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden312 Posts
April 16 2012 23:08 GMT
#547
It is kind of sad so see (some) individuals be so disrespectful to a person that devoted such a big part of his life to make entertainment for others.

Good luck in the future
cancer lancer, faceless cancer
crawlingchaos
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2025 Posts
April 16 2012 23:18 GMT
#548
On April 17 2012 08:07 Luepert wrote:
Let's see how long LoL stays number 1 esport.

Oh man, this whole thread..

Regardless, I harbor no ill toward Moletrap whatsoever and wish him the best.
They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you've gotta ride it well, the world is full of kings and queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams, it's heaven and hell, oh well.
Pippah
Profile Joined January 2010
Denmark354 Posts
April 16 2012 23:19 GMT
#549
gl moletrap, loved your bw casts and enjoy your LoL cast.
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
April 16 2012 23:26 GMT
#550
Good luck with OGN moletrap, maybe you'll be able to cast BW again? <3
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TheRealNanMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1471 Posts
April 16 2012 23:26 GMT
#551
Good luck to Moletrap with casting LoL I haven't watched him myself yet but im sure if this is his new passion than he will do a great job!
Sc2 Caster | Host of Sc2 Up & Coming | The Godfather of Team LXG | Sc2 Historian | Youtube.com/NanMan | Twitch.tv/TheRealNanMan | Twitter.com/TheRealNanMan |
Neoattitude
Profile Joined April 2010
Guam172 Posts
April 16 2012 23:27 GMT
#552
GL on LoL Moletrap! was a fan since the BW days. gotta do what makes you happy!
wojciech
Profile Joined March 2012
35 Posts
April 16 2012 23:32 GMT
#553
Get back to BW moletrap, we could use you here.
sammy5222000
Profile Joined January 2011
United States44 Posts
April 16 2012 23:32 GMT
#554
T__T why u leave moletrap...
go back to cast bw! OSL needs you
Zealot Lord
Profile Joined May 2010
Hong Kong747 Posts
April 16 2012 23:33 GMT
#555
On April 17 2012 07:52 Nibbler89 wrote:
I was always disappointed with moletrap's casting but that's not what was frustrating. The frustrating thing is, unlike his fellow casters who make threads to get feedback on their casting and how to improve, moletrap never made one even though he was widely considered to be one of the weaker casters.

Maybe he feels he doesn't have to, but I just don't know how it's not embarrassing / shameful when khaldor, wolf, and husky, all have threads asking for feedback good OR bad, so they can improve. Yes they get trolls who hate on them, Yes moletrap will probably get more. But the others casters don't care, they are willing to sift through the garbage to find the constructive criticism, and look at how quickly they have improved compared to moletrap.(wolf and husky in particular imo)
If you've read / understand the book art of war, have rudimentary sc2 knowledge, and a passion for casting / improving, you can become a great sc2 caster.

Now he's moving on to another game which I would think requires even more game knowledge than Sc2(just the # of champions,moves and items alone I think requires more "memorizing" type game knowledge) and I'm sure in his mind he thinks it will be different but it's the attitude that's the problem and I wouldn't be surprised if the same complaints begin to arise from more knowledgeable LoL viewers. I don't know if moletrap doesn't like criticism or maybe his fans have really convinced him he's a good caster, that all the criticism is just "trolling" or "haters gonna hate" and all people who don't like him as a caster must have some deeply personal vendetta with him. It's not the case, tbh tasteless recently has been getting as bad or worse than moletrap as well.

Korean casting is already leagues(lol) ahead of foreign casting, and anyone who saw the subbed gsl cast knows what they are missing. The higher the standard of casting goes up the more motivated / pressured casters will be to do a good job and the more fans sc2 will attract.

From Gheed's blog: One of the most aggravating things when trying to teach someone is asking them the question, "why did you do that?" and having them respond, "I don't know." If decisions are made without reasons behind them, improvement will never happen; it cannot happen.
I feel like this is why tasteless / moletraps casting is weak. They aren't thinking before they say stuff, if they say things without reason, how can they improve. It also shows in how often they retract things or even literally say " i don't know why I just said that" ~_~ Tbh I'm ready for Wolftosis code s.


Perfectly said, great post. And I have to agree that Tasteless is starting to drop off, I mean, I love the guy, but it just feels like his level of casting right now is every bit the same as when he first started (if not perhaps slightly deteriorating). I don't know why, but the things he says are getting more and more bland - I feel like he literally echoes Artosis too often nowadays (rarely do we hear him have his own separate opinions), and uses the same phrases over and over again.

Anyways, back to topic, I wasn't a fan of moletrap, but I appreciate his efforts and what he tried to do for the community, hope he does better in LoL. Did he ever state the reason for leaving SC2? That's what I personally want to know the most~
HeroHenry
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1723 Posts
April 16 2012 23:33 GMT
#556
On April 17 2012 08:07 Luepert wrote:
Let's see how long LoL stays number 1 esport.

At least we already know which game isn't ever going to be number 1 , but his casting wasn't bad when I tuned in for it.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
April 16 2012 23:37 GMT
#557
On April 17 2012 07:52 Nibbler89 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I was always disappointed with moletrap's casting but that's not what was frustrating. The frustrating thing is, unlike his fellow casters who make threads to get feedback on their casting and how to improve, moletrap never made one even though he was widely considered to be one of the weaker casters.

Maybe he feels he doesn't have to, but I just don't know how it's not embarrassing / shameful when khaldor, wolf, and husky, all have threads asking for feedback good OR bad, so they can improve. Yes they get trolls who hate on them, Yes moletrap will probably get more. But the others casters don't care, they are willing to sift through the garbage to find the constructive criticism, and look at how quickly they have improved compared to moletrap.(wolf and husky in particular imo)
If you've read / understand the book art of war, have rudimentary sc2 knowledge, and a passion for casting / improving, you can become a great sc2 caster.

Now he's moving on to another game which I would think requires even more game knowledge than Sc2(just the # of champions,moves and items alone I think requires more "memorizing" type game knowledge) and I'm sure in his mind he thinks it will be different but it's the attitude that's the problem and I wouldn't be surprised if the same complaints begin to arise from more knowledgeable LoL viewers. I don't know if moletrap doesn't like criticism or maybe his fans have really convinced him he's a good caster, that all the criticism is just "trolling" or "haters gonna hate" and all people who don't like him as a caster must have some deeply personal vendetta with him. It's not the case, tbh tasteless recently has been getting as bad or worse than moletrap as well.

Korean casting is already leagues(lol) ahead of foreign casting, and anyone who saw the subbed gsl cast knows what they are missing. The higher the standard of casting goes up the more motivated / pressured casters will be to do a good job and the more fans sc2 will attract.

From Gheed's blog: One of the most aggravating things when trying to teach someone is asking them the question, "why did you do that?" and having them respond, "I don't know." If decisions are made without reasons behind them, improvement will never happen; it cannot happen.
I feel like this is why tasteless / moletraps casting is weak. They aren't thinking before they say stuff, if they say things without reason, how can they improve. It also shows in how often they retract things or even literally say " i don't know why I just said that" ~_~ Tbh I'm ready for Wolftosis code s.


I couldn't have put it better myself, trying to improve is something that is way past due for a decent number of sc2 casters, still, I wish him the best of luck.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
April 16 2012 23:39 GMT
#558
I didn't watch the cast he and Torch did for OGN, does he know much about the game?
Antimatterz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1010 Posts
April 16 2012 23:47 GMT
#559
I liked moletrap, especially the nuke
"HotBid [11:45 AM]: i dunno i kinda like the big muta shooting smaller mutas out"
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
April 16 2012 23:51 GMT
#560
How old is Moletrap btw? I always had a hard time figuring that out...
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