• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 11:34
CET 17:34
KST 01:34
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13
Community News
[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation12Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA8StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!45$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship7
StarCraft 2
General
Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview [TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 3 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection
Brood War
General
SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle BW General Discussion What happened to TvZ on Retro? Brood War web app to calculate unit interactions
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] RO32 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group C - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
PvZ map balance Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers How to stay on top of macro?
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Clair Obscur - Expedition 33 Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Dyadica Gospel – a Pulp No…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2157 users

BitterdaM, Frodan to cast NASL! - Page 9

Forum Index > SC2 General
283 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 15 Next All
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
March 28 2012 11:43 GMT
#161
I don't like to write bad things about casters since it's entirely subjective but I was always more sensitive to the voice of casters than their game knowledge and sadly, much like HD/CatsPajamas in IPL, i didn't like the voice of Gretorp, no matter how good his actual casting or game knowledge is, so after season 1, where iNControl talked enough to mitigate my problem with Gretorps voice, i didn't watch NASL anymore.

This change might get me to watch it again.

BitterdaM FIGH...uhm... CASTING!
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 28 2012 11:53 GMT
#162
Wow that's amazing, Rotterdam is like the best commentator in existence for SC2 and Mrbitter is pretty good when he's not being too biased / whiny in the games as well!
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 28 2012 12:07 GMT
#163
NASTL becoming a "legit" league. I love it.
I had a good night of sleep.
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-28 12:13:10
March 28 2012 12:12 GMT
#164
On March 28 2012 19:41 HeavOnEarth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2012 18:50 Zandar wrote:
Well this might just get me back to watching NASL, but please, try to not have the finals on european monday morning, really any other time is fine. I can understand you want them on USA primetime, but have them on a saturday then so we can watch sunday morning.

iirc they do eu rebroadcasts


I know :/ I hate the term "rebroadcast"
It's not live, it's more like watching the GSL vods the day after.

Finals are not only about watching on your own, it's the community feeling too, knowing 10000s of nerds are watching this together with you. The live thread discussions here on TL etc. Cheering in the players fanclubs when they won.

I hope they really reconsider that re-broadcasting sillyness and put vods up faster instead.
And have the finals on a time that suits most watchers.

I really want to support Nasl, but when they finals were on a monday morning and I couldn't watch them I was quite dissapointed. They lost me as a customer there and frankly I don't want that at all. I want to pay them and watch their finals live, but if I can't I have to skip.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
March 28 2012 12:13 GMT
#165
I guess i will have to start watching NASL again, i love those 2 guys
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Tachyon
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark146 Posts
March 28 2012 12:18 GMT
#166
Good move for everyone involved I think, nice one!
I shall be telling this with a sigh somewhere ages and ages hence: Two roads diverged in a wood, and I— I took the one less traveled by, and that has made all the difference.
Auryn
Profile Joined March 2012
United States3 Posts
March 28 2012 12:32 GMT
#167
This is awesome - live casting as well as more $$ - great plan to offer $$ on each match (if I'm reading this correctly). I watched lots of Season 1 and started Season 2 but honestly I was having a problem finding good matches among the sheer volume of games (I'm a Dad with a 3 year old so my SC2 time is limited). The changes look like they can amplify the per-match excitement.
Never give up and good luck will find you.
DeaDoXFighting
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada115 Posts
March 28 2012 13:16 GMT
#168
Congrats to all, Frodan is such a great caster I loved him at MLG
Go Liquid Hero !!!!!
snailz
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia900 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-28 13:24:25
March 28 2012 13:23 GMT
#169
i didnt watch a single game of s2, but with koreans getting back, i definately will watch NASL season 3.

especially now, Bitter and Rotterdam are my second fav casters...

edit: fro-guy was pretty decent at MLG
"I am saying that there are 300 current pros and semi-pros that have the potential to come in and dominate SC2 at any moment, with a latency of a few months from the day they switch." - intrigue
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
March 28 2012 14:15 GMT
#170
BitterdaM Casting, yes!!!!!! this is what I was hoping was happening this is phenomenal NASL going to be soooo good this season.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
March 28 2012 14:20 GMT
#171
On March 28 2012 17:19 ragnorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2012 15:53 Type|NarutO wrote:
I don't know why, but NASL is not interesting to me at all. They have great players and now they also have good casters, but I don't know. Just seems like uninteresting besides the finals. Will obvioulsy still watch some of the games, but most likely very little amount.

Edit: Might be, because I prefer leagues with Koreans, because I don't think of nearly non-Korean leagues as the highest competition, but thats up to anyone to decide on their own.

I find the league format to be boring and pointless. When you have a 10 player group the game gets so much less fun to watch since they dont get eliminated as fast.


I agree. I like the format of big groupplay or 'leagues' very much. It is the most fair system.
But in NASL it doesnt have much importance. Way too many get into the playoffs. Last season Ret (5-2 record) and Vibe (2-5) both were in playoffs.
Then we have the final which is single elimination (at least Bo5 now), but thats still a lot more luck-dependend and disappointing after having such a long groupstage.
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
March 28 2012 14:27 GMT
#172
I might watch it now, at least the games Gretorp aren't casting
Therg
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden238 Posts
March 28 2012 14:35 GMT
#173
I really don't get all the Gretorp casting hate. Sure, in season 1 he was really bad, but he has improved his casting a lot and is one of the better casters right now imo. Never the less, adding Bitterdam and Frodan is a great move and will probably add a lot of quality to NASL.
TheMexican
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany96 Posts
March 28 2012 14:36 GMT
#174
On March 28 2012 23:27 hugman wrote:
I might watch it now, at least the games Gretorp aren't casting

same here. i was so unimpressed after season 1 that i stopped watching nasl entirely. Adding bitter and especially rotti however is a genius move to win fans of sc2 like me back. Hope they've gotten better.
Oh and i hated gretorps casting so much that i doubt he was able to change it enough for me to start liking it. Guess tastes differ (is that correct english?^^) nothing personal.
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4511 Posts
March 28 2012 15:25 GMT
#175
whos frodan
Team Liquid
claash
Profile Joined August 2011
Poland472 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-28 15:26:26
March 28 2012 15:25 GMT
#176
let mr.bitter and gretorp cast together and we will have a neutral cast again
i think you understand what i mean*smile*

go rotti!


HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
March 28 2012 15:27 GMT
#177
Not very surprising given that they left ESL, but it's great news for NASL at least
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
March 28 2012 15:53 GMT
#178
On March 29 2012 00:25 claash wrote:
let mr.bitter and gretorp cast together and we will have a neutral cast again
i think you understand what i mean*smile*

go rotti!



biased towards one + biased towards another =/= 0
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
March 28 2012 15:54 GMT
#179
I just might tune in now... :D
Congrats bitterdam.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
mbrownp1
Profile Joined August 2011
United States7 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-28 16:22:48
March 28 2012 16:13 GMT
#180
On March 28 2012 16:38 dgwow wrote:
...but the best way for NASL to make money is to have the players play live in studio like GSL.


Rest assured that we have exhaustively studied the financials from every angle. That is absolutely not the best way to make money by a long shot.
@mbrownp1
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 15 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PSISTORM Gaming Misc
15:55
FSL teamleague CNvsASH, ASHvRR
Freeedom19
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SteadfastSC 297
LamboSC2 117
mcanning 64
MindelVK 19
EmSc Tv 13
ROOTCatZ 10
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 29401
Rain 2635
Horang2 1478
Jaedong 922
Shuttle 464
Stork 404
firebathero 225
Barracks 184
Shinee 100
LaStScan 91
[ Show more ]
Leta 82
ggaemo 74
Hyun 70
soO 65
Rock 42
Dewaltoss 29
Mong 26
JYJ26
HiyA 25
Shine 23
zelot 14
Movie 14
Oystein9
Dota 2
Gorgc6149
qojqva1799
Dendi1047
XcaliburYe123
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
ScreaM1050
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor340
Liquid`Hasu199
Other Games
B2W.Neo1956
Mlord461
Beastyqt283
DeMusliM243
Lowko243
Hui .185
Fuzer 174
Trikslyr28
febbydoto10
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream8021
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream4722
Other Games
EGCTV601
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 13
EmSc2Tv 13
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 66
• HeavenSC 45
• OhrlRock 1
• IndyKCrew
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 3
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 1806
• Ler50
League of Legends
• Nemesis2710
Other Games
• WagamamaTV338
• Shiphtur106
Upcoming Events
IPSL
26m
ZZZero vs rasowy
Napoleon vs KameZerg
OSC
2h 26m
BSL 21
3h 26m
Tarson vs Julia
Doodle vs OldBoy
eOnzErG vs WolFix
StRyKeR vs Aeternum
Sparkling Tuna Cup
17h 26m
RSL Revival
17h 26m
Reynor vs sOs
Maru vs Ryung
Kung Fu Cup
19h 26m
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs TBD
WardiTV Korean Royale
19h 26m
BSL 21
1d 3h
JDConan vs Semih
Dragon vs Dienmax
Tech vs NewOcean
TerrOr vs Artosis
IPSL
1d 3h
Dewalt vs WolFix
eOnzErG vs Bonyth
Replay Cast
1d 6h
[ Show More ]
Wardi Open
1d 19h
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
BSL: GosuLeague
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
BSL: GosuLeague
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-14
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.