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m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
March 29 2012 12:06 GMT
#1201
Taeja is the best Korean player in the same way that Fraer is the second best foreign player. Online tournaments tend to inflate the rank of the players. Just don't read more into it than what it's worth.
BadBinky
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Finland649 Posts
March 29 2012 12:07 GMT
#1202
On March 29 2012 20:55 LunaSea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2012 20:52 Longshank wrote:
On March 29 2012 20:30 LunaSea wrote:
On March 29 2012 20:24 zatic wrote:
If you are truly convinced that TL "rigged" this when we build TLPD in 2007 because we knew in 2012 Liquid` would sign a player that at that point would be the number one according to ELO then I guess there is nothing we can say against it.

Yes, it's rigged and a big joke.


I'm sorry, saying that TLPD was "rigged" was harsh.
I just think that it is a strange coincidence that the player that Team Liquid just signed and that hasn't had as much success compared to a lot of other korean players is now #1. Just saying ...


So you're just insinuating it is rigged. Man up.


So you think that :

TaeJa > DongRaeGu (Code S champion and double MLG finalist)

and

TaeJa > MarineKing (Double MLG champion)

???


Look at the international TLPD where MLG games actually count. Taeja is nowhere near DRG or MKP(rank1). I think you just don't know what you're talking about
It's more important to be tough than to have any fun.
LunaSea
Profile Joined October 2011
Luxembourg369 Posts
March 29 2012 12:07 GMT
#1203
On March 29 2012 21:04 Cascade wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 29 2012 20:55 LunaSea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2012 20:52 Longshank wrote:
On March 29 2012 20:30 LunaSea wrote:
On March 29 2012 20:24 zatic wrote:
If you are truly convinced that TL "rigged" this when we build TLPD in 2007 because we knew in 2012 Liquid` would sign a player that at that point would be the number one according to ELO then I guess there is nothing we can say against it.

Yes, it's rigged and a big joke.


I'm sorry, saying that TLPD was "rigged" was harsh.
I just think that it is a strange coincidence that the player that Team Liquid just signed and that hasn't had as much success compared to a lot of other korean players is now #1. Just saying ...


So you're just insinuating it is rigged. Man up.


So you think that TaeJa > DongRaeGu and TaeJa > MarineKing ?

Inaccurate or flawed is completely different from being rigged.


Oh, you are completely right just think that the "timing" is weird. But yes, of course, there a big difference.
"Your f*cking wrong, but I respect your opinion" --Day[9]
LunaSea
Profile Joined October 2011
Luxembourg369 Posts
March 29 2012 12:13 GMT
#1204
On March 29 2012 21:07 BadBinky wrote:

Look at the international TLPD where MLG games actually count. Taeja is nowhere near DRG or MKP(rank1). I think you just don't know what you're talking about


But it is the same for the korean TLPD where Taeja is #1 ahead of DongRaeGu that won Code S.
(Taeja's results for Code S = 0-2 #4 out of 4 in his group, and 1-2 #3 out of 4 in his group)
"Your f*cking wrong, but I respect your opinion" --Day[9]
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
March 29 2012 12:15 GMT
#1205
On March 29 2012 21:07 LunaSea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2012 21:04 Cascade wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 29 2012 20:55 LunaSea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2012 20:52 Longshank wrote:
On March 29 2012 20:30 LunaSea wrote:
On March 29 2012 20:24 zatic wrote:
If you are truly convinced that TL "rigged" this when we build TLPD in 2007 because we knew in 2012 Liquid` would sign a player that at that point would be the number one according to ELO then I guess there is nothing we can say against it.

Yes, it's rigged and a big joke.


I'm sorry, saying that TLPD was "rigged" was harsh.
I just think that it is a strange coincidence that the player that Team Liquid just signed and that hasn't had as much success compared to a lot of other korean players is now #1. Just saying ...


So you're just insinuating it is rigged. Man up.


So you think that TaeJa > DongRaeGu and TaeJa > MarineKing ?

Inaccurate or flawed is completely different from being rigged.


Oh, you are completely right just think that the "timing" is weird. But yes, of course, there a big difference.

You find it weird that the announcement comes at about the same time as he is on top the ranking. ok.

If you stop posting here for 10 minutes, go read up just a little bit on elo and then go and have a look at his match history, you will understand that it is a matter of liquid announcing it when he is on a long win streak, which is harder to rig.
BadBinky
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Finland649 Posts
March 29 2012 12:19 GMT
#1206
On March 29 2012 21:13 LunaSea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2012 21:07 BadBinky wrote:

Look at the international TLPD where MLG games actually count. Taeja is nowhere near DRG or MKP(rank1). I think you just don't know what you're talking about


But it is the same for the korean TLPD where Taeja is #1 ahead of DongRaeGu that won Code S.
(Taeja's results for Code S = 0-2 #4 out of 4 in his group, and 1-2 #3 out of 4 in his group)

It's not only code S games. Taeja is on 10 game win streak. You just don't know how elo works.
It's more important to be tough than to have any fun.
Louis8k8
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada285 Posts
March 29 2012 12:20 GMT
#1207
OMG O____O. I haven't smiled this much since hero and puma's foreign team placements.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
March 29 2012 12:26 GMT
#1208
i was hoping for this one
beep boop
Waterflow
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1550 Posts
March 29 2012 12:27 GMT
#1209
Welcome dude!
LunaSea
Profile Joined October 2011
Luxembourg369 Posts
March 29 2012 12:30 GMT
#1210
On March 29 2012 21:15 Cascade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2012 21:07 LunaSea wrote:
On March 29 2012 21:04 Cascade wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 29 2012 20:55 LunaSea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2012 20:52 Longshank wrote:
On March 29 2012 20:30 LunaSea wrote:
On March 29 2012 20:24 zatic wrote:
If you are truly convinced that TL "rigged" this when we build TLPD in 2007 because we knew in 2012 Liquid` would sign a player that at that point would be the number one according to ELO then I guess there is nothing we can say against it.

Yes, it's rigged and a big joke.


I'm sorry, saying that TLPD was "rigged" was harsh.
I just think that it is a strange coincidence that the player that Team Liquid just signed and that hasn't had as much success compared to a lot of other korean players is now #1. Just saying ...


So you're just insinuating it is rigged. Man up.


So you think that TaeJa > DongRaeGu and TaeJa > MarineKing ?

Inaccurate or flawed is completely different from being rigged.


Oh, you are completely right just think that the "timing" is weird. But yes, of course, there a big difference.

You find it weird that the announcement comes at about the same time as he is on top the ranking. ok.

If you stop posting here for 10 minutes, go read up just a little bit on elo and then go and have a look at his match history, you will understand that it is a matter of liquid announcing it when he is on a long win streak, which is harder to rig.


I will stop arguing on maths since no one seems to understand that there is already an inherent match weighting system in Elo's formula but the fact that the korean population is separated with the rest of the world just "flaws" the results.
I'm not saying that it's strange that TL announce Taeja at the same time as he is on #1 is strange, just that it's not the first ESV that he won so he should've been #1 for a long time which he wasn't.
"Your f*cking wrong, but I respect your opinion" --Day[9]
LunaSea
Profile Joined October 2011
Luxembourg369 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-29 12:41:37
March 29 2012 12:33 GMT
#1211
On March 29 2012 21:19 BadBinky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2012 21:13 LunaSea wrote:
On March 29 2012 21:07 BadBinky wrote:

Look at the international TLPD where MLG games actually count. Taeja is nowhere near DRG or MKP(rank1). I think you just don't know what you're talking about


But it is the same for the korean TLPD where Taeja is #1 ahead of DongRaeGu that won Code S.
(Taeja's results for Code S = 0-2 #4 out of 4 in his group, and 1-2 #3 out of 4 in his group)

It's not only code S games. Taeja is on 10 game win streak. You just don't know how elo works.


Winning streak doesn't matters, strength matters. Code S "strength" >>> ESV "strength" and DongRaeGu had a 7 game win streak in Code S.

You obviously don't know how Elo works.
"Your f*cking wrong, but I respect your opinion" --Day[9]
Talaris
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland764 Posts
March 29 2012 12:44 GMT
#1212
On March 29 2012 20:55 LunaSea wrote:
So you think that :

TaeJa > DongRaeGu (Code S champion and double MLG finalist)

and

TaeJa > MarineKing (Double MLG champion)

???



Well, first of all, ELO is a system to predict win chances of different players - if both got almost the same Elo points then it's 50/50 in a direct matchup.

Second, Taeja just won 2-0, so I guess it was not that much off...
-= Jaedong // HerO // HasuObs // Best // Rush =-
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8096 Posts
March 29 2012 12:46 GMT
#1213
On March 29 2012 21:33 LunaSea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2012 21:19 BadBinky wrote:
On March 29 2012 21:13 LunaSea wrote:
On March 29 2012 21:07 BadBinky wrote:

Look at the international TLPD where MLG games actually count. Taeja is nowhere near DRG or MKP(rank1). I think you just don't know what you're talking about


But it is the same for the korean TLPD where Taeja is #1 ahead of DongRaeGu that won Code S.
(Taeja's results for Code S = 0-2 #4 out of 4 in his group, and 1-2 #3 out of 4 in his group)

It's not only code S games. Taeja is on 10 game win streak. You just don't know how elo works.


Winning streak doesn't matters, strength matters. Code S "strength" >>> ESV "strength" and DongRaeGu had a 7 game win streak in Code S.

You obviously don't know how Elo works.

And Taeja just beat DRG 2-0 so I guess that's that. Why do you insist there is something "strange" here. It's not like TL needs to plug their new player any more on their own site by putting him at the top of TLPD ._.
Jackle
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada859 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-29 12:46:54
March 29 2012 12:46 GMT
#1214
On March 29 2012 21:13 LunaSea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2012 21:07 BadBinky wrote:

Look at the international TLPD where MLG games actually count. Taeja is nowhere near DRG or MKP(rank1). I think you just don't know what you're talking about


But it is the same for the korean TLPD where Taeja is #1 ahead of DongRaeGu that won Code S.
(Taeja's results for Code S = 0-2 #4 out of 4 in his group, and 1-2 #3 out of 4 in his group)



+ Show Spoiler +
Clearly Taeja is overhyped with Korean ELO amirite? (Just 2-0'd DRG)
You called down the thunder, now reap the whirlwind.
SharkStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria2271 Posts
March 29 2012 12:47 GMT
#1215
Come on Taeja you can take on jjakji!
Cogito, ergo Toss
LunaSea
Profile Joined October 2011
Luxembourg369 Posts
March 29 2012 12:47 GMT
#1216
On March 29 2012 21:44 Talaris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2012 20:55 LunaSea wrote:
So you think that :

TaeJa > DongRaeGu (Code S champion and double MLG finalist)

and

TaeJa > MarineKing (Double MLG champion)

???



Well, first of all, ELO is a system to predict win chances of different players - if both got almost the same Elo points then it's 50/50 in a direct matchup.

Second, Taeja just won 2-0, so I guess it was not that much off...


He lost to Jjakji. Do you think that Jjakji should be first ?

"Your f*cking wrong, but I respect your opinion" --Day[9]
Aemilia
Profile Joined March 2012
344 Posts
March 29 2012 12:49 GMT
#1217
On March 29 2012 21:46 Jackle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2012 21:13 LunaSea wrote:
On March 29 2012 21:07 BadBinky wrote:

Look at the international TLPD where MLG games actually count. Taeja is nowhere near DRG or MKP(rank1). I think you just don't know what you're talking about


But it is the same for the korean TLPD where Taeja is #1 ahead of DongRaeGu that won Code S.
(Taeja's results for Code S = 0-2 #4 out of 4 in his group, and 1-2 #3 out of 4 in his group)



+ Show Spoiler +
Clearly Taeja is overhyped with Korean ELO amirite? (Just 2-0'd DRG)


Did you actually watch the games?
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
March 29 2012 12:49 GMT
#1218
The Koreans will out number the others on Liquid soon :D
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
FreudianTrip
Profile Joined July 2011
Switzerland1983 Posts
March 29 2012 12:50 GMT
#1219
On March 29 2012 21:47 LunaSea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2012 21:44 Talaris wrote:
On March 29 2012 20:55 LunaSea wrote:
So you think that :

TaeJa > DongRaeGu (Code S champion and double MLG finalist)

and

TaeJa > MarineKing (Double MLG champion)

???



Well, first of all, ELO is a system to predict win chances of different players - if both got almost the same Elo points then it's 50/50 in a direct matchup.

Second, Taeja just won 2-0, so I guess it was not that much off...


He lost to Jjakji. Do you think that Jjakji should be first ?



No, because that's not how ELO works?
SomeONEx
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden641 Posts
March 29 2012 12:52 GMT
#1220
woooooooow wow wow

sooo gosu!! omg this is awesome!! <3 <3 <3 <3
BW hwaiting!
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