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On March 29 2012 08:24 snailz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2012 08:19 Focuspants wrote:On March 29 2012 08:17 snailz wrote:On March 29 2012 08:12 jj33 wrote:On March 29 2012 08:11 snailz wrote:On March 29 2012 08:08 xXFireandIceXx wrote:On March 29 2012 08:03 snailz wrote:On March 29 2012 08:00 Focuspants wrote: Your favourite team picks up a world class player to strengthen their line-up and further establish themselves as the team to beat!
Bitch and complain because youre not satisfied by the nationality of said player.
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Anyone complaining, should shut their mouth and open their eyes. While they are open, use them to watch the games Zenio and HerO have provided us. You can open your mouth again at this point, as your jaw hits the floor in awe. Now add another player capable of such skill. What the hell do you have to complain about? Why is race or nationality even an issue. It sickens me.
Keep up the BOSSSSS recruitment work TL, I am loving the roster. most forum members mocked Zenio and called him washed up and old, and now retaining code s is suddenly "wow" while when he was at oGs it was "he's always there but he'll never be top zerg like nestea/leenock/drg/insert next zerg hope" i can understand getting HerO ho was nobody, but Zenio and now Taeja, it just doesnt seem "Liquid thing to do" :/ LOL signing good, community-friendly, team-supportive, capable players with great potential doesn't seem to be all that bad does it? no it doesnt, i never said it does i said it doesnt feel the same ofcourse i can "remember that its all about winning to maintain sponsors/team strong/bla bla", but i dont have to... its not my job, its a fan thing, and in real sports you dont cheer for those you can't relate to you can't relate to the Koreans, because they're Korean aka not white basically is what you're saying no. you're just being evil with no reason, please don't. its like football, you dont cheer for real madrid if you're from naples, or athens, or istanbul. you can support real madrid, but you would never "die" for them, like you would for Napoli, PAO, Fenerbahce... if you don't understand what i just wrote, you can't understand what i'm trying to say, honestly. and if you do, just replace people from Naples cheering for Napoli with people from west cheering for "foreigners" Bad example. For your example to be accurate, if you were from Madrid, your team would have to acquire only players from Madrid, or you "wouldnt be able to relate to them". Liquid is like the cities in your example, Taeja is one of the players on your team, which is multicultural. You are just being racist. you obviously dont understand anything about real sports, and especially football... Naples doesnt live Napoli because players are from Naples, in fact, their greatest and most glorious times were with Diego Maradona dont comment if you dont understand please, its just flame baiting and getting the crowd to turn on me  edit: also Croatia never had racism ever in its past, so save your western historic complexes for yourself please, i open my arms to all races, and calling someone racist with no reason here is not something people look lightly at
rofl?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ustaše
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Woot, finally another terran on Liquid! can't wait to see him play ;D
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On March 29 2012 08:27 Kennigit wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2012 08:16 Dandel Ion wrote:On March 29 2012 08:03 snailz wrote:On March 29 2012 08:00 Focuspants wrote: Your favourite team picks up a world class player to strengthen their line-up and further establish themselves as the team to beat!
Bitch and complain because youre not satisfied by the nationality of said player.
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Anyone complaining, should shut their mouth and open their eyes. While they are open, use them to watch the games Zenio and HerO have provided us. You can open your mouth again at this point, as your jaw hits the floor in awe. Now add another player capable of such skill. What the hell do you have to complain about? Why is race or nationality even an issue. It sickens me.
Keep up the BOSSSSS recruitment work TL, I am loving the roster. most forum members mocked Zenio and called him washed up and old, and now retaining code s is suddenly "wow" while when he was at oGs it was "he's always there but he'll never be top zerg like nestea/leenock/drg/insert next zerg hope" Nah mang, Zenio is still just average. People just aren't comfortable saying that on the Liquid homepage, obviously. So you can only see the blind fanboys that are convinced he's a god because of the color of his t-shirt. A "vocal minority". Taeja however, that guy is a baller. Just got no attention because he's Terran, like half of the GSL. He actually deserves them fanboys he will get now. Excuse my bias, but Zenio has hit Code S 8 times. What would he have to do to put him above average?
Well he hasn't made round of 4 has he 
Look at hero, no matter who he beat, no matter how many Dreamhack trophies he takes home nay sayers always maintained 'but he's not even in code a' and then 'he's only in code a, he's not code s calibre' and now it'll be 'but he hasn't made it to the semi's, he never gets past <whatever round he loses in> until he finally wins a GSL and then it'll be 'but he hasn't won as many as MVP, so he's really just noob'.
And people will say the same shit about Puma. It's idiotic.
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:/ cannot argue the talent that taeja has, and even more so, the potential he displays at such a young age but i just can't shake the feeling that something doesn't feel right about him. Maybe once he wins IPL my thoughts will change but now its just meh....
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YOU DONT UNDERSTAND. I am extremely athletic, and I follow sports daily. If you chear for a team, you dont give a shit about the race of the individual players on your team, you care about your team, because that is your identity. If you are a MAN U fan, and they signed, any world class player from another nation, say Messi, are they going to not be able to identify with him or cheer for him because hes Argentinian and not British? No, they will like him, because he makes their TEAM (which is what they are passionate about) better.
It really depends on the sport. In football, american football, hockey, and other sports like that, the team is what is most important because the teams are marketed as a unit in itself, as having a history. But, the more individual the sport is, the more relating to individual players matters, and in purely individual sports like tennis, track, and boxing, where a player is from matters a lot. So, since starcraft is extremely individual, people from the west, want people from the west on their team.
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On March 29 2012 08:28 chillswithhippos wrote: @snailz I'm not sure what you mean by the "liquid thing to do". I could be misinterpreting you, but it seems like you have this idea that liquid is doing something wrong by recruiting a lot of top level players, when that's something that every team SHOULD actually be doing.
m0ck explains it better than me,
"But who brings the next generation of foreign talent forward if not TL? Out of any team, they could have had their pick of foreign players, be they established or talents, and could have brought these players to Korea to give them the best environment possible for them to grow. Instead, TL have chosen to hire three Korean players."

and ofcourse i know its never a bad thing to recruit top players. ofcourse you should always look to hire best players on the market. Taeja was obviously the best free agent out there. but that's not what i'm getting at...
hell, Liquid'Nada with his past glories and magnificent body would make more sense than last three signings beeing exclusively Korean, when you look at the overall trend in foreign teams (meaning they now hire only koreans, meaning Liquid is not just any foreign team to do exactely the same)
and so on...
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holy shit - great news for liquid Apparently Hayder was trolling while trolling until this bomb dropped :D
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this is really awesome pickup!! Taeja is very likeable but Liquid Hero still the best.
Good luck on your Code S later Fighting!!!
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On March 29 2012 08:34 Kraznaya wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2012 08:24 snailz wrote:On March 29 2012 08:19 Focuspants wrote:On March 29 2012 08:17 snailz wrote:On March 29 2012 08:12 jj33 wrote:On March 29 2012 08:11 snailz wrote:On March 29 2012 08:08 xXFireandIceXx wrote:On March 29 2012 08:03 snailz wrote:On March 29 2012 08:00 Focuspants wrote: Your favourite team picks up a world class player to strengthen their line-up and further establish themselves as the team to beat!
Bitch and complain because youre not satisfied by the nationality of said player.
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Anyone complaining, should shut their mouth and open their eyes. While they are open, use them to watch the games Zenio and HerO have provided us. You can open your mouth again at this point, as your jaw hits the floor in awe. Now add another player capable of such skill. What the hell do you have to complain about? Why is race or nationality even an issue. It sickens me.
Keep up the BOSSSSS recruitment work TL, I am loving the roster. most forum members mocked Zenio and called him washed up and old, and now retaining code s is suddenly "wow" while when he was at oGs it was "he's always there but he'll never be top zerg like nestea/leenock/drg/insert next zerg hope" i can understand getting HerO ho was nobody, but Zenio and now Taeja, it just doesnt seem "Liquid thing to do" :/ LOL signing good, community-friendly, team-supportive, capable players with great potential doesn't seem to be all that bad does it? no it doesnt, i never said it does i said it doesnt feel the same ofcourse i can "remember that its all about winning to maintain sponsors/team strong/bla bla", but i dont have to... its not my job, its a fan thing, and in real sports you dont cheer for those you can't relate to you can't relate to the Koreans, because they're Korean aka not white basically is what you're saying no. you're just being evil with no reason, please don't. its like football, you dont cheer for real madrid if you're from naples, or athens, or istanbul. you can support real madrid, but you would never "die" for them, like you would for Napoli, PAO, Fenerbahce... if you don't understand what i just wrote, you can't understand what i'm trying to say, honestly. and if you do, just replace people from Naples cheering for Napoli with people from west cheering for "foreigners" Bad example. For your example to be accurate, if you were from Madrid, your team would have to acquire only players from Madrid, or you "wouldnt be able to relate to them". Liquid is like the cities in your example, Taeja is one of the players on your team, which is multicultural. You are just being racist. you obviously dont understand anything about real sports, and especially football... Naples doesnt live Napoli because players are from Naples, in fact, their greatest and most glorious times were with Diego Maradona dont comment if you dont understand please, its just flame baiting and getting the crowd to turn on me  edit: also Croatia never had racism ever in its past, so save your western historic complexes for yourself please, i open my arms to all races, and calling someone racist with no reason here is not something people look lightly at rofl? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ustaše
you got to be kidding me. that's like saying Americans are racist because they have small and insignificant faction called KKK
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wow truly GG!! time for parade in his honor?
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WOW I am so excited for Liquid right now. Jinro seemed lonely as Liquid's only terran.
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On March 29 2012 08:37 snailz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2012 08:34 Kraznaya wrote:On March 29 2012 08:24 snailz wrote:On March 29 2012 08:19 Focuspants wrote:On March 29 2012 08:17 snailz wrote:On March 29 2012 08:12 jj33 wrote:On March 29 2012 08:11 snailz wrote:On March 29 2012 08:08 xXFireandIceXx wrote:On March 29 2012 08:03 snailz wrote:On March 29 2012 08:00 Focuspants wrote: Your favourite team picks up a world class player to strengthen their line-up and further establish themselves as the team to beat!
Bitch and complain because youre not satisfied by the nationality of said player.
ESPORTS
Anyone complaining, should shut their mouth and open their eyes. While they are open, use them to watch the games Zenio and HerO have provided us. You can open your mouth again at this point, as your jaw hits the floor in awe. Now add another player capable of such skill. What the hell do you have to complain about? Why is race or nationality even an issue. It sickens me.
Keep up the BOSSSSS recruitment work TL, I am loving the roster. most forum members mocked Zenio and called him washed up and old, and now retaining code s is suddenly "wow" while when he was at oGs it was "he's always there but he'll never be top zerg like nestea/leenock/drg/insert next zerg hope" i can understand getting HerO ho was nobody, but Zenio and now Taeja, it just doesnt seem "Liquid thing to do" :/ LOL signing good, community-friendly, team-supportive, capable players with great potential doesn't seem to be all that bad does it? no it doesnt, i never said it does i said it doesnt feel the same ofcourse i can "remember that its all about winning to maintain sponsors/team strong/bla bla", but i dont have to... its not my job, its a fan thing, and in real sports you dont cheer for those you can't relate to you can't relate to the Koreans, because they're Korean aka not white basically is what you're saying no. you're just being evil with no reason, please don't. its like football, you dont cheer for real madrid if you're from naples, or athens, or istanbul. you can support real madrid, but you would never "die" for them, like you would for Napoli, PAO, Fenerbahce... if you don't understand what i just wrote, you can't understand what i'm trying to say, honestly. and if you do, just replace people from Naples cheering for Napoli with people from west cheering for "foreigners" Bad example. For your example to be accurate, if you were from Madrid, your team would have to acquire only players from Madrid, or you "wouldnt be able to relate to them". Liquid is like the cities in your example, Taeja is one of the players on your team, which is multicultural. You are just being racist. you obviously dont understand anything about real sports, and especially football... Naples doesnt live Napoli because players are from Naples, in fact, their greatest and most glorious times were with Diego Maradona dont comment if you dont understand please, its just flame baiting and getting the crowd to turn on me  edit: also Croatia never had racism ever in its past, so save your western historic complexes for yourself please, i open my arms to all races, and calling someone racist with no reason here is not something people look lightly at rofl? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ustaše you got to be kidding me. that's like saying Americans are racist because they have small and insignificant faction called KKK
I'd certainly count the KKK and slavery as a "history of racism in its past." Also neither the Ustase nor the KKK were "insignificant," whatever you'd like to believe.
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On March 29 2012 08:31 Kraznaya wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2012 08:27 Kennigit wrote:On March 29 2012 08:16 Dandel Ion wrote:On March 29 2012 08:03 snailz wrote:On March 29 2012 08:00 Focuspants wrote: Your favourite team picks up a world class player to strengthen their line-up and further establish themselves as the team to beat!
Bitch and complain because youre not satisfied by the nationality of said player.
ESPORTS
Anyone complaining, should shut their mouth and open their eyes. While they are open, use them to watch the games Zenio and HerO have provided us. You can open your mouth again at this point, as your jaw hits the floor in awe. Now add another player capable of such skill. What the hell do you have to complain about? Why is race or nationality even an issue. It sickens me.
Keep up the BOSSSSS recruitment work TL, I am loving the roster. most forum members mocked Zenio and called him washed up and old, and now retaining code s is suddenly "wow" while when he was at oGs it was "he's always there but he'll never be top zerg like nestea/leenock/drg/insert next zerg hope" Nah mang, Zenio is still just average. People just aren't comfortable saying that on the Liquid homepage, obviously. So you can only see the blind fanboys that are convinced he's a god because of the color of his t-shirt. A "vocal minority". Taeja however, that guy is a baller. Just got no attention because he's Terran, like half of the GSL. He actually deserves them fanboys he will get now. Excuse my bias, but Zenio has hit Code S 8 times. What would he have to do to put him above average? Win something?
Average players dont get into code S 8 times. If that is average 99.99% of all sc2 players are terrible.
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TaeJa has been one of my personal favorites for quite some time. Excited to see him on Liquid! Best of luck Liquid and TaeJa!!
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On March 29 2012 08:39 Skyline026 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2012 08:31 Kraznaya wrote:On March 29 2012 08:27 Kennigit wrote:On March 29 2012 08:16 Dandel Ion wrote:On March 29 2012 08:03 snailz wrote:On March 29 2012 08:00 Focuspants wrote: Your favourite team picks up a world class player to strengthen their line-up and further establish themselves as the team to beat!
Bitch and complain because youre not satisfied by the nationality of said player.
ESPORTS
Anyone complaining, should shut their mouth and open their eyes. While they are open, use them to watch the games Zenio and HerO have provided us. You can open your mouth again at this point, as your jaw hits the floor in awe. Now add another player capable of such skill. What the hell do you have to complain about? Why is race or nationality even an issue. It sickens me.
Keep up the BOSSSSS recruitment work TL, I am loving the roster. most forum members mocked Zenio and called him washed up and old, and now retaining code s is suddenly "wow" while when he was at oGs it was "he's always there but he'll never be top zerg like nestea/leenock/drg/insert next zerg hope" Nah mang, Zenio is still just average. People just aren't comfortable saying that on the Liquid homepage, obviously. So you can only see the blind fanboys that are convinced he's a god because of the color of his t-shirt. A "vocal minority". Taeja however, that guy is a baller. Just got no attention because he's Terran, like half of the GSL. He actually deserves them fanboys he will get now. Excuse my bias, but Zenio has hit Code S 8 times. What would he have to do to put him above average? Win something? Average players dont get into code S 8 times. If that is average 99.99% of all sc2 players are terrible.
Obviously pros are held to a different standard, else nearly all of TL is above average, since they are above gold league on ladder. Relative terms are tricky for a reason.
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One of the worst kept secrets. Welcome to the club bud.
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Awesome.
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Oh I was hoping Hayder wasn't just trolling us in that interview! :D
A BIG welcome to TaeJa! Good pick TL!
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