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AcOrP
Bulgaria148 Posts
Map name: Korhal Augustgrad District 666 Here is the map: Korhal Augustgrad District 666 image It is published in EU. It is alot basic no fancy graphics or anything. I experimented alot so we can more easy gather data how different combinations can work out. There may be some bugs. | ||
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
On March 18 2012 15:07 Barrin wrote: Oh man so much to read! I don't want anyone to feel like I'm ignoring them haha ♥ A lot of stuff people brought up was addressed in the OP. That has a lot to do with why it is so long  Lots of people correcting each other, I love seeing that. Again I don't want to miss anyone's concerns, and I'm still workin on 30 pages and counting of posts to reply to lool.Right this moment I do want to address one thing though: --- I have put my heart into this, as I truly feel it is worth it. Over a decade experience of various gaming at many levels (explained here lol), and hundreds of hours of thinking, researching, debating, writing, and rewriting has gone into this. If you think the idea in the OP is foolish, then please disregard anything I have ever posted or will ever post on TL. But I really don't want you to take my word for it. The proof is in the pudding - and it will inevitably be self-evident. I have resolved to help it every step of the way. Many many people have told me they love playing the 7m/6m maps, and there's a real mini-community here. I couldn't be happier. There's lots of things that can happen with this, and I intend to make sure the best of it does happen. 6m/7m isn't going anywhere! Expect more! Well, the community response has been overwhelmingly positive so far, so good for you. My own suggestion: Keep an eye on the mineral and gas cost of expansions, tech structures and research options, with an eye to possibly bring them down. Unit upgrades should also be in the same sack, but a lot of them are so efficient right now that they could stand to become "more expensive" for what they do IMO. | ||
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Meldrath
United States620 Posts
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Surili
United Kingdom1141 Posts
Really nice job barrin. | ||
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DeaDEmperor
Norway18 Posts
http://drop.sc/135828 Seems pretty standard except the lack of minerals makes Protoss more inclined to go for Templar tech. Still not sure how this is going to shut down deathball styles. | ||
ZeromuS
Canada13389 Posts
On March 19 2012 01:41 DeaDEmperor wrote: Master level PvT on Entombed with 7M 2G. http://drop.sc/135828 Seems pretty standard except the lack of minerals makes Protoss more inclined to go for Templar tech. Still not sure how this is going to shut down deathball styles. Try the 6 mineral map it makes a huge difference | ||
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DeaDEmperor
Norway18 Posts
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Omegalisk
United States337 Posts
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ahw
Canada1099 Posts
Same with stephano/lingfeator styles that rely on surplus mins and maxing on lings early. Will force z to spread further and actually be vulnerable to drops. Mid master terran. Gunna play a bit over the next few days. | ||
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Xirroh
Canada146 Posts
There is some disagreement whether this 6/7m idea would work, and rightly so. However it seems we are all agreeing something needs to change. | ||
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
On March 19 2012 03:07 Xirroh wrote: Just watched Demuslim vs Bling game 1 from Lone Star. There were no engagements of significance until the 19:00 minute mark (in game). Seemed closer to baceball then BW. This is not exciting. I must disagree with the casters, this was not an "awesome tvp." There is some disagreement whether this 6/7m idea would work, and rightly so. However it seems we are all agreeing something needs to change. Watch Sage vs Yoda and Happy vs San from last night's GSTL (or don't actually). It's the same damn thing, even amongst top pros. TvP is a horrible turtle fest =/ I really don't like watching it lately...I'm at the point where I just prefer to see the Terran do some 1 base all-in. I've made like 3 posts on the subject in last 24 hours but as a big sc2 fan and spectator it's really starting to wear on me. If 6m 1/2gas could fix this somehow I would be so damn grateful. | ||
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AcOrP
Bulgaria148 Posts
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lorkac
United States2297 Posts
On March 19 2012 02:04 DeaDEmperor wrote: Even so, the only thing it seems to do is making the assembling of the deathball take more time. Not create this kind of spread out gameplay the original post seems to hint at. The fact that it takes more time and bases is the whole point of the change... The changes doesn't force spread out engagements, the change provides more opportunities to spread out and engage. | ||
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Woj
United States133 Posts
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homeless_guy
United States321 Posts
That said, to the person who said this map change will just result in a slower tech to deathball, I do think that it is going to take some time for the community to understand how they can play differently on this new map style. | ||
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Quotidian
Norway1937 Posts
From what I've seen in my own experiments with the 6m2g map the OP made for this thread, it doesn't really pan out and all the "great idea!" posts were largely unfounded. You just end up with more, quickly over saturated bases, but the actual games play out largely the same. | ||
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Ksyper
Bulgaria665 Posts
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Gfire
United States1699 Posts
On March 19 2012 05:10 Ksyper wrote: I read a bit but couldn't find the channel name, I wanna play the maps a bit. Someone please tell me the channel name. It's "7m" | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5618 Posts
On March 19 2012 05:01 Quotidian wrote: So what's the general consensus now that this thread is a few days old? From what I've seen in my own experiments with the 6m2g map the OP made for this thread, it doesn't really pan out and all the "great idea!" posts were largely unfounded. You just end up with more, quickly over saturated bases, but the actual games play out largely the same. I'm pretty sure most people are simply playing the way they're used to play. It's hard to shift your gameplay paradigm with a flick of the fingers. | ||
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ampson
United States2355 Posts
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