On March 12 2012 18:22 Zzoram wrote:
Naniwa is the most deserving foreigner for Code S seed other than Stephano. Glad that there is no bad blood between GOM and Naniwa. Seems like time to leave that drama behind.

So what has stephano done since IPL 3 besides owning foreigners? I don't get why we still hype the shit out of stephano, yes he is by far the best european zerg, but in recent times he has not showed that he is actually able to compete with code s players.

Second place Assembly, 2-2 in Blizzard cup group including win against DRG who finished second there and won this GSL. And I need to ask, what has anyone not already in code S done since IPL besides owning foreigners? There hasn't been that many tournaments except for Assembly and MLG - Polt from Assembly as well as Huk and Naniwa from MLG are seeded already. Only thing remaining is IEM World Cup, which was heavily dominated by people who are already code S (and played very recently so they probably made the decisions for seeds before it was played). There's not a lot of people to choose from.

Puma's won NASL Season 2, finished second at Dreamhack Winter and IEM World Championships and finished 3rd at Assembly and IEM China in that time.

I did say there's not a lot of people to choose from, not that there wasn't anyone. Also at NASL he only basically defeated a bunch of foreigners, which according to Lorch didn't count. I think Dreamhack and NASL are "in the past" as far as GSL are concerned, because they would have garnered seeds for the previous GSL season and not this one. And IEM WC is too recent, seeds were determined before that.

You can't backtrack now. You said what have they done since IPL3, and Puma has done a hell of a lot.

I'm not backtracking, as I did say that there are not a lot of people to choose from. And no, other than owning foreigners, Puma hasn't done a hell of a lot. His run in NASL was almost completely against foreigners, IEM China was BEFORE IPL3, his run at Assembly was also almost completely against foreigners (before the third place match there was only Select). Like I said, they were unable to consider IEM WC. Only at Dreamhack did he have any meaningful Korean opposition. It's not "a hell of a lot".

Wrong again.

Dreamhack Winter - Beat DRG, best Zerg in the world (Code S), also beat Genius (Code S finalists).
NASL 2 - Beat Hero (Code S)
IEM WC - Beat MMA, best Terran in the world (Code S), also beat JYP who is terrible vs Terran but still a Code S player.
MLG Providence - Beat Losira (was Code S)
MLG Orlando - Beat Polt (Code S).

So yeah you're completely wrong, Puma has beaten some ridiculously good players at foreign tournaments.

Double standards much? Why did he fail in code A? You asked this for Naniwa, why not ask for puma? You just hate some foreigners and try to show it publicly.

You need to stop jumping to conclusions. I don't think any players should ever be invited to Code S.

But if they're going to invite players then:

1. Polt
2. Violet
3. Puma
4. Stephano
5. Huk

Is the correct list.

And I assume Stephano was invited but declined and Violet would decline as well but probably wasn't invited.

amazingoopah

United States1925 Posts

March 12 2012 18:20 GMT

#423

hope Puma gets invited in the next code s... his overseas achievements are quite extraordinary, if they are giving code s slots for overseas wins then he definitely deserves one.

WigglingSquid

5194 Posts

March 12 2012 18:21 GMT

#424

On March 13 2012 02:59 meltingmykohchoo wrote:
What happened to Losira? Havent seen him in anything recently

He didn't make it through the qualifiers and he is not active in small online tournaments. He seems to be alternating weeks of absolute ladder-beasting to weeks of "meh-where-is-this-guy-ness".

CeriseCherries

6170 Posts

March 12 2012 18:38 GMT

#425

Polt deserved it... hopefully naniwa will shut up some of the hate for GOM -.-

^naniwa deserved it too

m3rciless

United States1476 Posts

March 12 2012 18:42 GMT

#426

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS FUCK YESSSSSSSSS FUKC YESSSSDSSSSSSSS

NANINANINANINANINANINANINANINANINANINANINANINANINANINANINANINANINANINANINANINANIWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

FIGHTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

iyoume

2501 Posts

March 12 2012 18:44 GMT

#427

glad they seeded Polt. he deserves it

m3rciless

United States1476 Posts

March 12 2012 18:47 GMT

#428

NANIWAAAAAAAAAA SO HYPED FUCK!

00Visor

4337 Posts

March 12 2012 18:51 GMT

#429

On March 13 2012 03:18 unnar wrote:
I love sase but he already had 3 code invites i think, i guess gom wont invite him again soon

Sase had one invite, the other 2 times he qualified through MLG and Road to Korea

Mario1209

United States1077 Posts

March 12 2012 18:59 GMT

#430

woot, both great choices, gj GOM!!

Gackt_

335 Posts

March 12 2012 19:05 GMT

#431

This is the 4th time Naniwa get the chance without even going through the Code A qualifiers. Lol? This is stupid imo.

Edit:

good thingy about Polt.

Tommylew

Wales2717 Posts

March 12 2012 19:06 GMT

#432

On March 13 2012 04:05 Gackt_ wrote:
This is the 4th time Naniwa get the chance without even going through the Code A qualifiers. Lol? This is stupid imo.

Edit:

good thingy about Polt.

well one time he had it taken awayfrom him and then because of the circumstances he never retried getting through code a because of shitstorm, tis time he didnt enter because he probably already knew he had the code s spot... and the previous two times he got to code a by being one of the highest placed foreigners in MLG.... so this is his first actual invite from GOM where he hasnt earned it...

snively

United States1159 Posts

March 12 2012 19:11 GMT

#433

I think it's funny that theres this deluge of korean names, and then one Chris Loranger ^_^

HuK we love you!!! i know you can get back into code S!!!

Coal

Sweden1535 Posts

March 12 2012 19:13 GMT

#434

Hahah I'm sure that Nani will be placed in the same group as DRG/MMA/Alive or something.. would be so typical

Prove the haters wrong Nani! <3

Promethelax

Canada7089 Posts

March 12 2012 19:15 GMT

#435

If Naniwa can do well in code S and against Stephano in their 10k showmatch he could come out as the undisputed best foreigner in the world in the next months. Of course if he fails at both he could lose any right to claim that title.

glgl Naniwa! I want to see another foreigner do well in code S.

mrtomjones

Canada4020 Posts

March 12 2012 19:16 GMT

#436

On March 13 2012 04:11 snively wrote:
I think it's funny that theres this deluge of korean names, and then one Chris Loranger ^_^

HuK we love you!!! i know you can get back into code S!!!

And he shall be the first Chris to win GSL!

Forikorder

Canada8840 Posts

March 12 2012 19:18 GMT

#437

On March 12 2012 18:24 Zzoram wrote:

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Naniwa is the most consistent Korean killer of all the foreigners, even if he did terrible in Code A in the past.

Naniwa beat Nestea in 3/3 series, MVP in 1/1, and Leenock in 1/2. Those Koreans are no slouches and beating them proves he's the toughest foreigner. His results against Koreans is better than even Stephano and Huk.

NesTea has said that he always does terrible at foreign events becuase he has terrible trime trying to get any sleep and MvP has had wrist problems and Leenock is now in Code A

i wonder if Naniwa immediately falls out of Code S to Code A then to code B if people will stop giving IdrA so much flack

OkStyX

Canada1199 Posts

March 12 2012 19:19 GMT

#438

On March 12 2012 18:09 theteam wrote:
the zerg count is so low

I am sure the up and down matches will alter that slightly

zanga

659 Posts

March 12 2012 19:21 GMT

#439

On March 13 2012 04:18 Forikorder wrote:
NesTea has said that he always does terrible at foreign events becuase he has terrible trime trying to get any sleep flack

You know, Naniwa was on the exact same flight as NesTea to MLG... and they both live in the same city in korea (as you know)..... so that is such a false fact why NesTea would lose to Nani.