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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 31 2012 16:57 GMT
#1301
and stephano cares what people think of him as he's winning his next big tournament?
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45028 Posts
March 31 2012 17:08 GMT
#1302
On April 01 2012 01:57 darthfoley wrote:
and stephano cares what people think of him as he's winning his next big tournament?


Naniwa is notorious for not caring what others think of him. He cares far more about winning than being an entertainer or being a loving personality... and yet he had no problem honoring the agreement that Stephano promoted. Are you forgetting that Stephano is the one who set this all up? And then he backed out.

Perhaps winning is more important than having a large fan base in the end, but how many ridiculous issues has Stephano been the cause of? Illegally signing multiple contracts, entering simultaneous tournaments and then not following through on them, dodging team matches and letting down Millenium, dodging showmatches that he goes out of his way to promote with big talk, etc. It's hard to ignore every despicable thing that he's done. Sure, he's a fantastic player, but I'm not a fan of his personality.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Beakyboo
Profile Joined May 2010
United States485 Posts
March 31 2012 22:03 GMT
#1303
I don't think I'd expect any pro player to put up that much of their own money for a show match. Why would they gamble on a show match when someone else would likely straight up pay them both to do it? The onus isn't on players to go arranging show matches for the community.

If you're hell bent on holding the players up to literal interpretations of a casual twitter exchange then there's just no reasoning with you. You've all proved the community wants this, so now some organization needs to make it happen (likely for a more reasonable prize pool though..). Maybe Naniwa's stubborn enough to follow through, but gambling 5 grand on their salaries doesn't sound too smart to me.
Gackt_
Profile Joined March 2010
335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 22:13:07
March 31 2012 22:12 GMT
#1304
On April 01 2012 02:08 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 01:57 darthfoley wrote:
and stephano cares what people think of him as he's winning his next big tournament?


Naniwa is notorious for not caring what others think of him. He cares far more about winning than being an entertainer or being a loving personality.


u shitting me bro? he even responds on TL, he cares like hell what people thinks about him, he got an ego, he always wanna prove that he is "the best" at least from what I've seen.
xHPx_sc2
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden46 Posts
March 31 2012 22:19 GMT
#1305
On March 31 2012 16:52 MrHighlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 01:58 goswser wrote:
After Naniwa lost to haypro at mlg he decided maybe his chances vs stephano were pretty low.


Why even make a comment like this? As a "pro" shouldn't you be above this? lol.

calling goswer a pro lol.
Dakure
Profile Joined February 2011
United States513 Posts
March 31 2012 22:32 GMT
#1306
On April 01 2012 07:19 xHPx_sc2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 16:52 MrHighlight wrote:
On March 30 2012 01:58 goswser wrote:
After Naniwa lost to haypro at mlg he decided maybe his chances vs stephano were pretty low.


Why even make a comment like this? As a "pro" shouldn't you be above this? lol.

calling goswer a pro lol.

Man people take everything way too seriously around here.

I interpret Naniwa as the type of person who doesn't care about popularity/fans of his personality/stream but instead cares about being the best player he can be (from the comments he made after leaving Complexity). And by being the best is the way he wants to earn his fans, not by being some sort of entertainer.

Stephano, on the other hand, seems to have a very clear plan for his life. He wants to earn as much money as he can through gaming and then quit while he's ahead. If I recall correctly, when he was on State of the Game he implied that he doesn't care about being the best as long as he's able to make money by playing and winning tournaments. And yes, Stephano has failed to fulfill commitments here and there, but I really don't think he cares about the implications.

In short, I think neither player cares but at the same time they do. Kinda like fans are merely a byproduct of accomplishing their goals.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 22:37:54
March 31 2012 22:36 GMT
#1307
On March 31 2012 23:08 Otolia wrote:
So Hall0wed, still not bored of trashing Stephano in every possible thread ? Good to see you put your eminent intellect to that glorious and useful occupation.


Please explain to me how I trash Stephano in every possible thread. I am not a fan of either of these players really and all I have said is that it is lame to dodge. If Naniwa was the one dodging here I would be all over him too.

Yes in the past I have trashed Stephano but I couldn't care less about him now and this is the only Stephano related topic I have bothered with in a long while. My only problem here is that I think dodging is really dumb and it annoys me when people try to make excuses for others that dodge.

It is really funny that pretty much every Stephano fan knows who I am though. I'm flattered. :3
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framtidenskrig
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden92 Posts
March 31 2012 22:48 GMT
#1308
cant understand how people think stephano can beat naniwa? NaNiWa is on a complete other level than violet....
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Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
March 31 2012 23:05 GMT
#1309
On April 01 2012 07:48 framtidenskrig wrote:
cant understand how people think stephano can beat naniwa? NaNiWa is on a complete other level than violet....


Sincerely,
The completely objective swede
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SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
March 31 2012 23:09 GMT
#1310
On April 01 2012 07:36 Hall0wed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 23:08 Otolia wrote:
So Hall0wed, still not bored of trashing Stephano in every possible thread ? Good to see you put your eminent intellect to that glorious and useful occupation.


Please explain to me how I trash Stephano in every possible thread. I am not a fan of either of these players really and all I have said is that it is lame to dodge. If Naniwa was the one dodging here I would be all over him too.

Yes in the past I have trashed Stephano but I couldn't care less about him now and this is the only Stephano related topic I have bothered with in a long while. My only problem here is that I think dodging is really dumb and it annoys me when people try to make excuses for others that dodge.

It is really funny that pretty much every Stephano fan knows who I am though. I'm flattered. :3


I think you should just do what I do and (try to) stay the fuck away from every Stephano-related thread. I made a pretty big fuck-up in one thread about facts relating to Stephano and am now labelled a Stephano-"hater" too.

I'm probably also what you'd call a Stephano fan, as well. And I've never heard of you before
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
March 31 2012 23:10 GMT
#1311
On April 01 2012 07:12 Gackt_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 02:08 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 01 2012 01:57 darthfoley wrote:
and stephano cares what people think of him as he's winning his next big tournament?


Naniwa is notorious for not caring what others think of him. He cares far more about winning than being an entertainer or being a loving personality.


u shitting me bro? he even responds on TL, he cares like hell what people thinks about him, he got an ego, he always wanna prove that he is "the best" at least from what I've seen.

I think it would be more apt to say he cares about what people think of his skill, otherwise i am pretty sure he doesn't care that much.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
March 31 2012 23:18 GMT
#1312
On April 01 2012 07:12 Gackt_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 02:08 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 01 2012 01:57 darthfoley wrote:
and stephano cares what people think of him as he's winning his next big tournament?


Naniwa is notorious for not caring what others think of him. He cares far more about winning than being an entertainer or being a loving personality.


u shitting me bro? he even responds on TL, he cares like hell what people thinks about him, he got an ego, he always wanna prove that he is "the best" at least from what I've seen.


yeah that's what I was thinking too, by responding to hate he actually shows that he cares

stephano is the dude that probably has never read a thread on teamliquid.
Dapper_Cad
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom964 Posts
March 31 2012 23:19 GMT
#1313
The story so far...
[image loading]
But he is never making short-term prediction, everyone of his prediction are based on fundenmentals, but he doesn't exactly know when it will happen... So using these kind of narrowed "who-is-right" empirical analysis makes little sense.
Gackt_
Profile Joined March 2010
335 Posts
March 31 2012 23:26 GMT
#1314
On April 01 2012 08:18 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 07:12 Gackt_ wrote:
On April 01 2012 02:08 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 01 2012 01:57 darthfoley wrote:
and stephano cares what people think of him as he's winning his next big tournament?


Naniwa is notorious for not caring what others think of him. He cares far more about winning than being an entertainer or being a loving personality.


u shitting me bro? he even responds on TL, he cares like hell what people thinks about him, he got an ego, he always wanna prove that he is "the best" at least from what I've seen.


yeah that's what I was thinking too, by responding to hate he actually shows that he cares

stephano is the dude that probably has never read a thread on teamliquid.



i still bet my ass that he dodged nestea that day when he proberushed cuz he had a bad day and was afraid to lose his pride by losing to him..but thats history now..

and yeah stephano seems to be more of the guy who never reads about himself..I actually like his attitude, his answers in interviews are always very good, and he is an interessting guy in general..his skills are by far the best outside Korea.
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
March 31 2012 23:27 GMT
#1315
On April 01 2012 08:19 Dapper_Cad wrote:
The story so far...
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Haha nice recap! :D
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Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
March 31 2012 23:30 GMT
#1316
On April 01 2012 08:09 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 07:36 Hall0wed wrote:
On March 31 2012 23:08 Otolia wrote:
So Hall0wed, still not bored of trashing Stephano in every possible thread ? Good to see you put your eminent intellect to that glorious and useful occupation.


Please explain to me how I trash Stephano in every possible thread. I am not a fan of either of these players really and all I have said is that it is lame to dodge. If Naniwa was the one dodging here I would be all over him too.

Yes in the past I have trashed Stephano but I couldn't care less about him now and this is the only Stephano related topic I have bothered with in a long while. My only problem here is that I think dodging is really dumb and it annoys me when people try to make excuses for others that dodge.

It is really funny that pretty much every Stephano fan knows who I am though. I'm flattered. :3


I think you should just do what I do and (try to) stay the fuck away from every Stephano-related thread. I made a pretty big fuck-up in one thread about facts relating to Stephano and am now labelled a Stephano-"hater" too.

I'm probably also what you'd call a Stephano fan, as well. And I've never heard of you before


Well I don't screw up my facts nor do I really care what people think of me on here so as long as I am not posting random shit and sticking to facts and knowledge people can think whatever they want to think. =P

And I mostly care about the Korean scene and don't post much in non-korean related threads so if you are big on the foreign scene then that is why.
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FZZ
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden7 Posts
March 31 2012 23:30 GMT
#1317
On April 01 2012 08:19 Dapper_Cad wrote:
The story so far...
[image loading]


Epic conclussion, personally think Naniwa can take it, but it would be an amazing showmatch to see even with 100$ on the line.

User was warned for this post
He got Naniwad!
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
April 01 2012 00:08 GMT
#1318
On April 01 2012 08:19 Dapper_Cad wrote:
The story so far...+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]



This made me laugh. Good recap.
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Malgrif
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1095 Posts
April 01 2012 00:19 GMT
#1319
On April 01 2012 09:08 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 08:19 Dapper_Cad wrote:
The story so far...+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]



This made me laugh. Good recap.

LMAO that was great loved it
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45028 Posts
April 01 2012 00:52 GMT
#1320
On April 01 2012 09:19 Malgrif wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 09:08 Promethelax wrote:
On April 01 2012 08:19 Dapper_Cad wrote:
The story so far...+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]



This made me laugh. Good recap.

LMAO that was great loved it


LOL Fucking awesome ^^

At this point in time I barely even care who wins if they end up playing the match (although I hope Naniwa wins, just because that would be a fitting end). The fact that it was delayed this long by Stephano speaks volumes already.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
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