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On February 26 2012 22:37 BloodThirsty wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 15:43 cursor wrote:
Paid for it, watched it today- one of the best times I've had watching a stream. The interface was fun and I didn't mind the lack of crowd, because I know there will be one at the pro circuit games later this year.
Believe me though, if I had the job I had 3 months ago, I would not have paid $20 for a weekend of games. Its definitely a bit much from a personal perspective, but think of it this way: People pay $10 to watch a movie for 2 hours. They pay $100 to get into Disneyland for 8 hours. $50 for a decent dinner for 2. This really isnt TERRIBLE for a weekend, if you have the time to take it all in.
Think about the costs. Renting that loft in NYC. The accommodations for your staff. The flights for players. Food. The equipment. Holy shit... all that stuff. And you get like say, even a lot, 20,000 people paying for the stream. Think about it. It doesn't work out. The sponsors and other events are still picking up a lot of the slack. yea cause renting a loft in one of the most expensive cities in ALL of the united states if not ALL of north america was the smart thing to do from the beginning........................................................................ you really going to try to make us feel bad that people dunno how to spend money so we should give them more? not to mention you have to provide housing for all the players and food, since food and housing in NY is so cheap...................................
Good point. I remember when Zuffa bought UFC for 2 million they started in a shit hole warehouse/offices behind palace station you don't go at night. Some people gotta have the best though. Wall Street tastes with lemon aid stand income.
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I have visited a barcraft in munich yesterday. Asus Assembly was so exciting! Stephano and Polt showed starcraft from the future I felt :-D After that we also watched the first few MLG matches. First, their sound and stream quality was far worse than Assemblies. Also we couldn't watch a lot because MLG started so late (for europeans obviously). So I watched the results on my way home (had to travel about 4 hours to get home) on my cellphone.
Today I would like to watch the final 4 matches but 20$ are not worth for those few hours. As a european you can only watch half of the tourney live (due to sleeping schedule) and then they show three matches at the same time. It's like 20$ for a bad-designed tourney schedule where you can only watch half of it while on the other side there are tourneys like Assembly showing a better performance for free.
I can hear tyler saying from last sotg that people want everything for free. Also sharing a pass with friends and stuff they suggested. But please consider that people out there don't have the time to watch all weekend long. 20$ for 4 matches to watch sounds like a joke to me. -.-
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On February 27 2012 03:06 lovedoctor wrote:
I have visited a barcraft in munich yesterday. Asus Assembly was so exciting! Stephano and Polt showed starcraft from the future I felt :-D After that we also watched the first few MLG matches. First, their sound and stream quality was far worse than Assemblies. Also we couldn't watch a lot because MLG started so late (for europeans obviously). So I watched the results on my way home (had to travel about 4 hours to get home) on my cellphone.
Today I would like to watch the final 4 matches but 20$ are not worth for those few hours. As a european you can only watch half of the tourney live (due to sleeping schedule) and then they show three matches at the same time. It's like 20$ for a bad-designed tourney schedule where you can only watch half of it while on the other side there are tourneys like Assembly showing a better performance for free.
I can hear tyler saying from last sotg that people want everything for free. Also sharing a pass with friends and stuff they suggested. But please consider that people out there don't have the time to watch all weekend long. 20$ for 4 matches to watch sounds like a joke to me. -.-
So what you're saying is that it's bad because it doesn't catter to your times. You know if they did then the people in the Americas would get screwed over, and considering the Koreans flying over and the event being in the U.S., I mean it's not hard to understand why the times are the way they are. You get VODs if you pay the money. Now sound and things like that are valid complaints but saying a tournament is badly scheduled because it's not suitable for you is in bad taste.
I do agree that they should be able to offer the last day for something like 5-10 dollars for people who only want to watch the finals.
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On February 27 2012 00:32 Prochainezo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 23:53 floor exercise wrote:On February 26 2012 23:10 Prochainezo wrote:On February 26 2012 23:04 floor exercise wrote:
Yeah I really don't know what they are doing in NYC if Sundance is talking about being lean and mean in 2012. It seems incredibly wasteful, and the only upside is that Sundance and his frat bros get to play NY Business Man The New York offices are legacy from the last MLG CEO who wanted to set them up. Sundance is in the process of relocating them somewhere cheaper (I think he said maybe somewhere back in columbus). Please stop posting your uninformed opinions. Or at least if you want to hate, find a legitimate reason to be mad, rather than just coming across an idiot. It's strange how all of your posts are in this thread. if you're going to be such a transparent MLG shill you should at least conduct yourself with some tact so you don't end up making the company you are determined to so valiantly defend online look even worse Nice bro, I shut down your argument hardcore and you call me a fanboy. For the record I have several TL accounts, this one is reserved specifically for pointing out idiots in this thread. This is because there are indeed people like you who get so butthurt that they will look through comment history and find what I am associated with. I am sure you could think of a situation where that might hurt a community member. Either way, you mad. User was banned for this post.
Besides his language and usage of memes , he does actually have a point.
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On February 27 2012 03:06 lovedoctor wrote:
I have visited a barcraft in munich yesterday. Asus Assembly was so exciting! Stephano and Polt showed starcraft from the future I felt :-D After that we also watched the first few MLG matches. First, their sound and stream quality was far worse than Assemblies. Also we couldn't watch a lot because MLG started so late (for europeans obviously). So I watched the results on my way home (had to travel about 4 hours to get home) on my cellphone.
Today I would like to watch the final 4 matches but 20$ are not worth for those few hours. As a european you can only watch half of the tourney live (due to sleeping schedule) and then they show three matches at the same time. It's like 20$ for a bad-designed tourney schedule where you can only watch half of it while on the other side there are tourneys like Assembly showing a better performance for free.
I can hear tyler saying from last sotg that people want everything for free. Also sharing a pass with friends and stuff they suggested. But please consider that people out there don't have the time to watch all weekend long. 20$ for 4 matches to watch sounds like a joke to me. -.-
By your logic, they should make Asus Assembly different hours because it doesn't fit well with american Time zones. Events should fit well with the time zone that they take place in and people not in that time zone adjust. And then what tournament is better is all a matter of opinion and the way you rationalize it. Everyone has different marginal costs and marginal benefits for everything, and you choose to like the one that gives you the most marginal benefit. Or else the choice is irrational.
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On February 27 2012 03:19 Korlinni wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 03:06 lovedoctor wrote:
I have visited a barcraft in munich yesterday. Asus Assembly was so exciting! Stephano and Polt showed starcraft from the future I felt :-D After that we also watched the first few MLG matches. First, their sound and stream quality was far worse than Assemblies. Also we couldn't watch a lot because MLG started so late (for europeans obviously). So I watched the results on my way home (had to travel about 4 hours to get home) on my cellphone.
Today I would like to watch the final 4 matches but 20$ are not worth for those few hours. As a european you can only watch half of the tourney live (due to sleeping schedule) and then they show three matches at the same time. It's like 20$ for a bad-designed tourney schedule where you can only watch half of it while on the other side there are tourneys like Assembly showing a better performance for free.
I can hear tyler saying from last sotg that people want everything for free. Also sharing a pass with friends and stuff they suggested. But please consider that people out there don't have the time to watch all weekend long. 20$ for 4 matches to watch sounds like a joke to me. -.-
By your logic, they should make Asus Assembly different hours because it doesn't fit well with american Time zones. Events should fit well with the time zone that they take place in and people not in that time zone adjust. And then what tournament is better is all a matter of opinion and the way you rationalize it. Everyone has different marginal costs and marginal benefits for everything, and you choose to like the one that gives you the most marginal benefit. Or else the choice is irrational.
Thats actually wrong. You know why? "Esports needs to be monetized.". Look at it from a business-perspective, and tell me that that was smart. Keep in mind, that EU and similar timezones have a potential bigger viewership.
Other than that, what time was it in US when Assembly was on? Just curious.
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On February 27 2012 03:27 m4inbrain wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 03:19 Korlinni wrote:On February 27 2012 03:06 lovedoctor wrote:
I have visited a barcraft in munich yesterday. Asus Assembly was so exciting! Stephano and Polt showed starcraft from the future I felt :-D After that we also watched the first few MLG matches. First, their sound and stream quality was far worse than Assemblies. Also we couldn't watch a lot because MLG started so late (for europeans obviously). So I watched the results on my way home (had to travel about 4 hours to get home) on my cellphone.
Today I would like to watch the final 4 matches but 20$ are not worth for those few hours. As a european you can only watch half of the tourney live (due to sleeping schedule) and then they show three matches at the same time. It's like 20$ for a bad-designed tourney schedule where you can only watch half of it while on the other side there are tourneys like Assembly showing a better performance for free.
I can hear tyler saying from last sotg that people want everything for free. Also sharing a pass with friends and stuff they suggested. But please consider that people out there don't have the time to watch all weekend long. 20$ for 4 matches to watch sounds like a joke to me. -.-
By your logic, they should make Asus Assembly different hours because it doesn't fit well with american Time zones. Events should fit well with the time zone that they take place in and people not in that time zone adjust. And then what tournament is better is all a matter of opinion and the way you rationalize it. Everyone has different marginal costs and marginal benefits for everything, and you choose to like the one that gives you the most marginal benefit. Or else the choice is irrational. Thats actually wrong. You know why? "Esports needs to be monetized.". Look at it from a business-perspective, and tell me that that was smart. Keep in mind, that EU and similar timezones have a potential bigger viewership. Other than that, what time was it in US when Assembly was on? Just curious.
for me at least it was going on when i woke up for work at 5am. i was able to catch the finals at 2pm
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20$ is to much, face it. I paid 60$ for the game, and one third of this should be spent on one weekend ? no matter what players are going to play, and what caster are going to be there, it's just too much. There is a poll on TL somewhere which shows that more than 2/3 ppl haven't paid for MLG. I'm fucking sure that lowering that price to 10$ would have brougt them more than twice more money. It's like with taxes, too much taxes and more employers are going to black economy.
Laffer Curve - pro explanation
All in all, lower prices, less disappointment, more fans, more money.
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MLG is making a killing from Winter Arena. Look at how many people are complaining about the price? It's clear that despite their whining and such, they desperately want to watch it.
These addicts can't resist it. Even if they're against it, their addiction will fuel internal justification to buy and they'll eventually cave in. Even if they don't, MLG can still lower the price later on. It's brilliant.
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is any1 still watching it for free/?
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no way to watch it for free, even with low resolution ?
scandalous, ridiculous
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On February 27 2012 03:56 beefITek wrote:
no way to watch it for free, even with low resolution ?
scandalous, ridiculous
A ton of people are watching it for free, even today
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On February 27 2012 03:56 beefITek wrote:
no way to watch it for free, even with low resolution ?
scandalous, ridiculous
I've seen people watching 1080 free
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On February 27 2012 04:19 bovineblitz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 03:56 beefITek wrote:
no way to watch it for free, even with low resolution ?
scandalous, ridiculous A ton of people are watching it for free, even today
not anymore
edit: go to the gameplay 1 stream
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A ton of people are watching it for free, even today is this based on personal experience that you are watching it for free, or your just guessing?
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On February 27 2012 04:22 ixi.genocide wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 04:19 bovineblitz wrote:On February 27 2012 03:56 beefITek wrote:
no way to watch it for free, even with low resolution ?
scandalous, ridiculous A ton of people are watching it for free, even today not anymore
they fixed the workarounds?
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On February 27 2012 04:23 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 04:22 ixi.genocide wrote:On February 27 2012 04:19 bovineblitz wrote:On February 27 2012 03:56 beefITek wrote:
no way to watch it for free, even with low resolution ?
scandalous, ridiculous A ton of people are watching it for free, even today not anymore they fixed the workarounds?
don't think so. he's lying.
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On February 27 2012 04:23 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 04:22 ixi.genocide wrote:On February 27 2012 04:19 bovineblitz wrote:On February 27 2012 03:56 beefITek wrote:
no way to watch it for free, even with low resolution ?
scandalous, ridiculous A ton of people are watching it for free, even today not anymore they fixed the workarounds?
Paywall still not working here, no workarounds required. Also seeing a good number of people saying the same thing in the LR thread.
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They seem to have blocked the main stream but not the gamestreams
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On February 27 2012 04:22 cactusjack914 wrote: is this based on personal experience that you are watching it for free, or your just guessing?
he is speaking the truth, people are still watching for free its inevitable
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