• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 20:44
CET 02:44
KST 10:44
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview2RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2
Community News
BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion0Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)15Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 103
StarCraft 2
General
Stellar Fest "01" Jersey Charity Auction SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets When will we find out if there are more tournament SC2 Spotted on the EWC 2026 list?
Tourneys
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 OSC Season 13 World Championship SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes
Brood War
General
BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates How Rain Became ProGamer in Just 3 Months
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Physical Exercise (HIIT) Bef…
TrAiDoS
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2154 users

MLG Winter Arena to be PPV - Page 230

Forum Index > SC2 General
4945 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 228 229 230 231 232 248 Next
Criticism is allowed. Undue flaming is not. Take a second to think your post through before you submit.

Bans will be handed out.

Should go without saying, but don't link restreams here either.
rAsEk
Profile Joined May 2011
Mexico15 Posts
February 26 2012 19:29 GMT
#4581
for those who are watching it for free PM me ... i dont want to miss the finals but i dont have the money right now

User was warned for this post
cactusjack914
Profile Joined March 2011
United States183 Posts
February 26 2012 19:32 GMT
#4582
he is speaking the truth, people are still watching for free its inevitable
LOL, you just admitted that your guessing by saying its inevitable. How about just not responding unless you know for sure.
"starcraft isn't a hobby, its a lifestyle."
Derity
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2952 Posts
February 26 2012 19:33 GMT
#4583
stream does not have the production value to be worth $20, glad I didn't pay
Joe Com
Profile Joined March 2011
United States12 Posts
February 26 2012 19:33 GMT
#4584
MLG should consider changing their stream price for the next event for the following reasons:
1. The fan base is young, and doesn't have enough expendable income to support $20 per event.
2. The quality of the product(lag, production, commentators) isn't high enough to justify the cost.
3. The proportion of of the fan base which is lost(see: MLG Arena Restreams).
4. The relative cost per hour of entertainment is too high compared with any major sport, or entertainment source. Compare it to NBA League Pass, or HBO, ect.

I don't believe you can charge pay per view type of prices for an emerging "sport" and expect to be successful(unless you are UFC).
ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US
Moppy
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom16 Posts
February 26 2012 19:35 GMT
#4585
So how come i can watch this for free? i thought it was PPV, and now i discover i can watch it for free. Totally confused
Teejing
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany1360 Posts
February 26 2012 19:36 GMT
#4586
where can i watch it for free?


User was warned for this post
TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
February 26 2012 19:36 GMT
#4587
I just opened the official stream page and it's working for me.
lovedoctor
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany115 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-26 19:41:46
February 26 2012 19:41 GMT
#4588
On February 27 2012 03:11 ptrpb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 03:06 lovedoctor wrote:
I have visited a barcraft in munich yesterday. Asus Assembly was so exciting! Stephano and Polt showed starcraft from the future I felt :-D After that we also watched the first few MLG matches. First, their sound and stream quality was far worse than Assemblies. Also we couldn't watch a lot because MLG started so late (for europeans obviously). So I watched the results on my way home (had to travel about 4 hours to get home) on my cellphone.

Today I would like to watch the final 4 matches but 20$ are not worth for those few hours. As a european you can only watch half of the tourney live (due to sleeping schedule) and then they show three matches at the same time. It's like 20$ for a bad-designed tourney schedule where you can only watch half of it while on the other side there are tourneys like Assembly showing a better performance for free.

I can hear tyler saying from last sotg that people want everything for free. Also sharing a pass with friends and stuff they suggested. But please consider that people out there don't have the time to watch all weekend long. 20$ for 4 matches to watch sounds like a joke to me. -.-

So what you're saying is that it's bad because it doesn't catter to your times. You know if they did then the people in the Americas would get screwed over, and considering the Koreans flying over and the event being in the U.S., I mean it's not hard to understand why the times are the way they are. You get VODs if you pay the money. Now sound and things like that are valid complaints but saying a tournament is badly scheduled because it's not suitable for you is in bad taste.
I do agree that they should be able to offer the last day for something like 5-10 dollars for people who only want to watch the finals.


I am sure it is not only my concern. And I didn't mean they should change their schedule to give non-americans a chance to watch it. What I mean is: There are people that don't want to watch the whole thing for whatever reason (Sleep, Socializing, responsibilties in life). Those people want to tune in for just a few hours. 20$ is simply too high priced for that!
"Infestors own marines in a way you don't understand" - artosis
Chemist
Profile Joined November 2011
Austria127 Posts
February 26 2012 19:47 GMT
#4589
On February 27 2012 04:36 TigerKarl wrote:
I just opened the official stream page and it's working for me.


This! Blackscreen every like 5 mins for some secs but other than that it works fine without paying? Don't know why.
beefITek
Profile Joined June 2011
France54 Posts
February 26 2012 19:50 GMT
#4590
if any get an url to watch it for free ... event in lower resolution, thks

User was temp banned for this post.
Ghost.573
Profile Joined August 2010
United States126 Posts
February 26 2012 19:54 GMT
#4591
On February 27 2012 04:36 TigerKarl wrote:
I just opened the official stream page and it's working for me.

Rofl. Either MLG realized they were losing a lot, or one of their techs made one giant mistake!
Project Psycho
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom329 Posts
February 26 2012 20:01 GMT
#4592
i would like some help on how to watch it free please, i may as well since a ton of other people are doing it ive already bought a gold account ffs.
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
February 26 2012 20:11 GMT
#4593
Open up mainstream, 1080P no paywall. Its not fixed at all.
secret - never again
cameronkrazie86
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States296 Posts
February 26 2012 20:16 GMT
#4594
I like how they say it's not a pro circuit event yet everywhere it's branded a "pro circuit arena" even on their scoreboard. As a paying gold member, all I can think is "what's up with that?"
"You come at the King, you best not miss." - Omar Little
Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
February 26 2012 20:21 GMT
#4595
Wow, so many people asking for restreams. Seriously guys?

If it's working for you now that's probably first match of the day = free thing.
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
February 26 2012 20:21 GMT
#4596
On February 27 2012 05:21 Serelitz wrote:
Wow, so many people asking for restreams. Seriously guys?

If it's working for you now that's probably first match of the day = free thing.

No, it just dosent ask at all for payment. I watched alot of yesterdays matches without paying and just opening up their webpage
jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
February 26 2012 20:23 GMT
#4597
On February 27 2012 04:32 cactusjack914 wrote:
Show nested quote +
he is speaking the truth, people are still watching for free its inevitable
LOL, you just admitted that your guessing by saying its inevitable. How about just not responding unless you know for sure.


100% sure ... better
beefITek
Profile Joined June 2011
France54 Posts
February 26 2012 20:24 GMT
#4598
On February 27 2012 05:11 ch33psh33p wrote:
Open up mainstream, 1080P no paywall. Its not fixed at all.


i go to the stream interface .. and whatever stream or quality i choose, its always black with the subscribe page ...
no stream available. why ?
aicaramba
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands110 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-26 20:26:44
February 26 2012 20:25 GMT
#4599
It has been working for free for me the entire weekend.. Didnt do anything to try and avoid payment, just tried watching and it worked. I know several other people who have the exact same thing. I dont have any adblockers, special ways to get around payment, or anthing else.. It just works.
kokorel
Profile Joined January 2010
Romania11 Posts
February 26 2012 20:26 GMT
#4600
I've seen last year free HD tourneys who capped at 50-60k viewers with ease (just pure viewers without counting in barcrafts! ) (homestory's, assembley's, TSL, and even mlg's). How many subscribers did mlg get for this event I wonder... 1k, 2k, 5k??? most unlikely

It makes me think.. why would an organizer who supposedly supports e-sports and its growth would rob so many people of it.
Its like commercial money they would get from world wide companies who for sure would pay handsomely to have so much exposure is not enough... But hey.... it must be easier to make a bank account and ask for money than spend effort to get the real big companies and convince them to see the potential of e-sports.

Make me see the reason mlg !
iop
Prev 1 228 229 230 231 232 248 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 31m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Ketroc 69
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 13215
actioN 456
Shuttle 100
Hm[arnc] 28
League of Legends
C9.Mang0369
Counter-Strike
Foxcn254
taco 168
Other Games
tarik_tv15709
gofns7459
summit1g6055
FrodaN3176
XaKoH 165
JimRising 162
KnowMe99
ZombieGrub72
ViBE43
ToD39
PPMD32
minikerr22
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2394
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 107
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 43
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21299
League of Legends
• Doublelift6794
Other Games
• imaqtpie2073
• Scarra484
• Shiphtur47
Upcoming Events
All-Star Invitational
31m
INnoVation vs soO
Serral vs herO
Cure vs Solar
sOs vs Scarlett
Classic vs Clem
Reynor vs Maru
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
10h 16m
AI Arena Tournament
18h 16m
All-Star Invitational
1d
MMA vs DongRaeGu
Rogue vs Oliveira
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 8h
OSC
1d 10h
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
The PondCast
4 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
5 days
Big Brain Bouts
6 days
Serral vs TBD
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1: W4
Big Gabe Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
OSC Championship Season 13
SC2 All-Star Inv. 2025
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W5
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Nations Cup 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.