EPTMLG Winter Arena to be PPV - Page 182
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Criticism is allowed. Undue flaming is not. Take a second to think your post through before you submit. Bans will be handed out. Should go without saying, but don't link restreams here either. | ||
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tsuxiit
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Shiori
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On February 16 2012 11:11 Liquid`NonY wrote: You don't have to express your idea in such an asshole way. Even if a disadvantaged person can't pay yet, they could be posting "I love what MLG has given me so far for free and I want to do my part, but I can't yet. Wish you guys all the luck" and not go on posting "what the fuck is this $20 blah blah blah" etc all the bitching that people have done. But the point is the vast vast majority of SC2 fans can find $20 to pay if they had a good understanding of value. You're criticizing him for being rude but then support the guy who's basically condescending to everyone? | ||
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nGBeast
United States914 Posts
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SayTT
Sweden2158 Posts
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caradoc
Canada3022 Posts
On February 16 2012 11:13 tsuxiit wrote: Sundance is getting mad. This is kind of bad. Yeah, the defensiveness is a bit understandable because he's emotionally invested into all this, but it's really bad PR. It gives the sense, true or not, that the whole organization is a mess-- bad messaging  | ||
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MiacroISBADK
United States45 Posts
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Flanlord
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On a conceptual note though - I hope they have VERY solid casting planned. (I apologize in advance for the following bluntness.) If I was paying money for Starcraft eSport, and I heard Husky giggling, or becoming incapable of forming a sentence in a giant fight because he's too excited, or Wolf making terrible puns etc. I would probably get really frustrated. If they're casting EVERY single game on FIVE streams, I imagine a lot of the casting will be done by people who aren't Day[9], Wheat, JP, Tastless/Artosis etc. which to me is almost more important than who is playing. (Maybe I'm alone in that?) Best of luck to the MLG guys though, I hope (for their sake) that this works out to be a good business decision. I also hope (for my self-interest) that this 'trial run' falls apart and I get to keep watching MLG for free as an eSports beggar. | ||
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GatorGar
Somalia77 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/cI9ZV.png) As I said before, is there any more doubt about whether or not Winter Arena was marketed as a Pro Circuit event? Gold Members got fucked. NO REFUND! | ||
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Me1234
Germany219 Posts
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WarrickHunt
United Kingdom393 Posts
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Thrax
Canada1755 Posts
On February 16 2012 11:18 Me1234 wrote: how do I get the 5$ discount as a gold member? cannot find it anywhere on the mlg site or i'm just blind You will be emailed a coupon. | ||
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JethroTV
United States206 Posts
On February 16 2012 11:19 WarrickHunt wrote: Why does he keep avoiding the gold membership question? I don't think "We are shit, I know" should constitute an answer as to why they have missold people, the reason "Not many people bought Gold" doesn't mean you should shit on the people who did, this is a PR nightmare, I certainly won't be giving this guy my money for his shirking of questions around this How is he avoiding it. He said he can give the discount, no more, and that the miscommunication was a huge mistake. There is nothing else to it. | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8513 Posts
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WarrickHunt
United Kingdom393 Posts
On February 16 2012 11:20 SCJethro wrote: How is he avoiding it. He said he can give the discount, no more, and that the miscommunication was a huge mistake. There is nothing else to it. How is there nothing else to do? If there are so few people who bought gold as he says, then it cant be that detromental to give them the arena, misselling people have drove multi-million businesses into the ground in the past, which is why companies act so evasivly when they do so, and often give shit loads to loyal customers to show they didnt intentionally do this | ||
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Aegeis
United States1619 Posts
On February 16 2012 09:47 GatorGar wrote: As I said before, is there any more doubt about whether or not Winter Arena was marketed as a Pro Circuit event? Let it go, that is such a stupid thing to nit pick. Criticize the event/price model not a picture. | ||
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GatorGar
Somalia77 Posts
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Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
On February 16 2012 11:11 Liquid`NonY wrote: You don't have to express your idea in such an asshole way. Even if a disadvantaged person can't pay yet, they could be posting "I love what MLG has given me so far for free and I want to do my part, but I can't yet. Wish you guys all the luck" and not go on posting "what the fuck is this $20 blah blah blah" etc all the bitching that people have done. But the point is the vast vast majority of SC2 fans can find $20 to pay if they had a good understanding of value. Tyler with the goods once again. | ||
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JethroTV
United States206 Posts
On February 16 2012 11:24 WarrickHunt wrote: How is there nothing else to do? If there are so few people who bought gold as he says, then it cant be that detromental to give them the arena, misselling people have drove multi-million businesses into the ground in the past, which is why companies act so evasivly when they do so, and often give shit loads to loyal customers to show they didnt intentionally do this He said very few bought it recently, that is, after the 2011 season ended. There are a lot of people that had it from previously, so he cant afford to give it away. | ||
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WarrickHunt
United Kingdom393 Posts
On February 16 2012 11:26 SCJethro wrote: He said very few bought it recently, that is, after the 2011 season ended. There are a lot of people that had it from previously, so he cant afford to give it away. Nope, he said 1/10th of the goal bought it, unless they were being completely unrealistic in their aims it can't be that many, and even the money they would lose from offering it to gold members for free, maybe they make that back from the same people coming back next year buying gold memberships, instead of thinking, well i could buy a gold membership, but ill probably get shafted again if I do, its about building brand loyalty and trying to maintain your loyal customer base, and when people have shown they will buy into the business doing everything in your power not to fuck them over | ||
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
On February 16 2012 11:35 WarrickHunt wrote: Nope, he said 1/10th of the goal bought it, unless they were being completely unrealistic in their aims it can't be that many, and even the money they would lose from offering it to gold members for free, maybe they make that back from the same people coming back next year buying gold memberships, instead of thinking, well i could buy a gold membership, but ill probably get shafted again if I do, its about building brand loyalty and trying to maintain your loyal customer base, and when people have shown they will buy into the business doing everything in your power not to fuck them over I think there goal was something like 100k people to buy gold. | ||
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