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Criticism is allowed. Undue flaming is not. Take a second to think your post through before you submit.

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Should go without saying, but don't link restreams here either.
topoulo
Profile Joined September 2011
253 Posts
February 16 2012 00:27 GMT
#3601
What soe dont seem to understand is that Esports were never meant to be paid to view

Secondly they highly elastic , thus a small change in price will yeld a sharp change in the demand.

get some micro 01 charging 20 bucks for 3 days out of thin air wont work in the long run - heck even in the short one.
_Galad_
Profile Joined September 2011
Greece184 Posts
February 16 2012 00:36 GMT
#3602
I'm sorry but this to me is completely greedy and nothing else. Hell even GOM has LQ stream...
If MLG wants to have 5 streams the most logical thing is to have the 2 ones in LQ like the previous events with ads of course... Or I missed something and ads don't generate revenue anymore? Seriously MLG,,,
Channel the Light of Aiur...
GatorGar
Profile Joined December 2011
Somalia77 Posts
February 16 2012 00:47 GMT
#3603
[image loading]

As I said before, is there any more doubt about whether or not Winter Arena was marketed as a Pro Circuit event?
:D Life's tough in Somalia :D
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
February 16 2012 01:22 GMT
#3604
On February 16 2012 09:47 GatorGar wrote:
[image loading]

As I said before, is there any more doubt about whether or not Winter Arena was marketed as a Pro Circuit event?


I can almost promise you that they went "oh if we put on these extra events we will need extra money or we cant do them" so they did this.
Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
February 16 2012 01:30 GMT
#3605
It's a good thing that there are plenty of us out there who realize that $20 is basically no money at all and will more than make up for all the cheap bastards who don't want to pay for anything.

Seriously. $20? You guys are upset about $20?

Even when I worked for minimum wage I wouldn't mind paying $20.

Fuck, I've paid $30 to go to the local pro soccer team (for a single game). I've paid $300 season's tickets to that same soccer team. I've paid $100 to go to a concert. Going to see a movie at the theatre costs $15.

At times I identify with being a nerd, and other times I'm disgusted at how pathetic and cheap that group is.
Happiness only real when shared.
Rulker
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1477 Posts
February 16 2012 01:48 GMT
#3606
On February 16 2012 10:30 Mora wrote:
It's a good thing that there are plenty of us out there who realize that $20 is basically no money at all and will more than make up for all the cheap bastards who don't want to pay for anything.

Seriously. $20? You guys are upset about $20?

Even when I worked for minimum wage I wouldn't mind paying $20.

Fuck, I've paid $30 to go to the local pro soccer team (for a single game). I've paid $300 season's tickets to that same soccer team. I've paid $100 to go to a concert. Going to see a movie at the theatre costs $15.

At times I identify with being a nerd, and other times I'm disgusted at how pathetic and cheap that group is.

glad you have been able to go through life either riding on your parents money or gone through college debt free
<3

User was temp banned for this post.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8745 Posts
February 16 2012 01:50 GMT
#3607
on onemoregame´s stream sundance is making a statement NOW and getting a bit of a roast for his communication of the whole Winter Arena story. Props to him for hanging in there and taking the blame - hopefully things will get smoother next time.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
February 16 2012 01:51 GMT
#3608
Sundance is saying right now that gold members who have cancelled their membership since this announcement are only in "teens" in numbers and that it's just that there are a small number of very vocal angry members on these forums.
werynais
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1780 Posts
February 16 2012 01:52 GMT
#3609
Scoots vs Sundance :D

Pretty heated discussion right now.
caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
February 16 2012 01:52 GMT
#3610
wow, lot of shouting :D this is great
Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8745 Posts
February 16 2012 01:54 GMT
#3611
Hmm now I feel a bit sorry for sundance - I mean yes it was a PR fuck-up but MLG generally is inclined to do a good job and they don´t deserve ALL the shit they are getting.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
omarvader
Profile Joined October 2010
United States15 Posts
February 16 2012 01:54 GMT
#3612
$20 seems like a lot, I would probably pay $10 at the most.
OptimusYale
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)1005 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-16 01:56:05
February 16 2012 01:55 GMT
#3613
I hate to say it....but I'm actually feeling sympathetic for sundance in this...it seems legit! I think this experiment will help esports in general.

However I think $10 for gold members may help get the PPV off the ground....and then raise it after a while

and if I was working...I would definitely give money for gold and this arena
tsuxiit
Profile Joined July 2010
1305 Posts
February 16 2012 01:59 GMT
#3614
The more I think about this, the more I think that everyone should buy it.
FinalForm
Profile Joined August 2010
United States450 Posts
February 16 2012 01:59 GMT
#3615
Winter Championshio will have free LQ stream right. As long as the major MLG events are free to the public, I'm fine with MLG charging more for this "bonus contents" for the more hardcore and devoted MLG watchers. That's how I see it so it doesn't bother me at all.
VokeLP
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada16 Posts
February 16 2012 02:01 GMT
#3616
Lol scoot was tearing up sundance on Live On Three
u sixpoll?
RevRich
Profile Joined February 2011
United States218 Posts
February 16 2012 02:05 GMT
#3617
For the cost of a movie + some popcorn? Hell yes count me in!!



.....just don't fuck it up mmkay?
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8745 Posts
February 16 2012 02:08 GMT
#3618
Hm can´t emphasize enough how much props sundance deserves now - he now pays for his bad decision many times over.
He has got the balls to admit the failure and does the right thing to speak out publicly - the only right thing to do after such a mistake. Gj Sundance - now I am a fan (and not making such mistakes again would help in the future as well ;P)
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
nGBeast
Profile Joined July 2010
United States914 Posts
February 16 2012 02:08 GMT
#3619
On February 16 2012 11:01 VokeLP wrote:
Lol scoot was tearing up sundance on Live On Three


No he wasn't that was such incoherent rambling rofl
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-16 02:12:08
February 16 2012 02:11 GMT
#3620
On February 16 2012 10:48 Rulker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 10:30 Mora wrote:
It's a good thing that there are plenty of us out there who realize that $20 is basically no money at all and will more than make up for all the cheap bastards who don't want to pay for anything.

Seriously. $20? You guys are upset about $20?

Even when I worked for minimum wage I wouldn't mind paying $20.

Fuck, I've paid $30 to go to the local pro soccer team (for a single game). I've paid $300 season's tickets to that same soccer team. I've paid $100 to go to a concert. Going to see a movie at the theatre costs $15.

At times I identify with being a nerd, and other times I'm disgusted at how pathetic and cheap that group is.

glad you have been able to go through life either riding on your parents money or gone through college debt free
<3

You don't have to express your idea in such an asshole way.

Even if a disadvantaged person can't pay yet, they could be posting "I love what MLG has given me so far for free and I want to do my part, but I can't yet. Wish you guys all the luck" and not go on posting "what the fuck is this $20 blah blah blah" etc all the bitching that people have done. But the point is the vast vast majority of SC2 fans can find $20 to pay if they had a good understanding of value.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
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