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VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
February 09 2012 08:00 GMT
#1
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The (Wiki)KSL is back and better than ever! After our initial amazing success with the 2012 Opening Ceremonies, we’ve decided to completely revamp the KSL format! Starting Saturday, February 11th, we’ll be entering a Round-Robin League Format, featuring the 7 teams in the KSL: Prime, Incredible Miracle, FXOpen, Most Valuable Player, ZeNEX, NewStar HoSeo, and StarTale. Unfortunately, in light of recent events, Old Generations has withdrawn from participation in the KSL. As such the Round Robin tournament will only feature Seven (7) teams. The KSL will also be utilizing a $9 Monthly HD Premium Subscription fee, in order to provide additional support for the Korean Teams participating.

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The League will run on Saturdays and Sundays, at the regular KSL time. (23:00 KST) [Dates subject to change depending on GSL schedule.] Over the next few weekends, these top Korean teams will battle it out for an increased prize pool, showing possibilities and matchups that this GSTL season might not be able to provide!

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For every win a team earns, they will win a prize of $200. After the round robin matches complete, the Top 4 teams will be eligible for the playoffs. The 4th place team will face off against the 3rd place team. The winner of the 3rd/4th place match will move on to face the 2nd place team, and like before, the winner of that will advance to the finals to play the 1st place ranked team. The winning team in the finals will earn themselves $5000, with the second place team taking home $2000. As such, not only does every match count for prize money, but also for league standing, where first overall in the league guarantees your team $2000. Like before, all matches will be Best of 11, giving teams a chance to show off not only their top players, but also their hidden talent that isn’t seen in the GSL.

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The map pool will use the following maps:
GSL Daybreak
GSL Dual Sight
GSL Antiga Shipyard
GSL Crossfire 1.1 SE
GSL Bel’Shir Beach Winter
GSL Metropolis
ESV Cloud Kingdom
GSL Entombed Valley

Our first broadcast week will start Saturday, February 11th and 23:00 KST with Incredible Miracle facing off against ZeNEX. The next day, Sunday, February 12th at the same time, FXOpen will clash with NewStar HoSeo.

+ Show Spoiler [Full Schedule] +
1st Week
11.02 IM vs ZeNEX (Starting Map: Daybreak)
12.02 FXO vs NsHS (Starting Map: Dual Sight)

2nd Week
18.02 StarTale vs Prime (Starting Map: Antiga Shipyard)
19.02 MvP vs ZeNEX (Starting Map: Crossfire)

3rd Week
25.02 IM vs Prime (Starting Map: Bel'Shir Beach Winter)
26.02 FXO vs StarTale (Starting Map: Metropolis)

4th Week
03.03 ZeNEX vs Prime (Starting Map: Entombed Valley)
04.03 MvP vs NsHS (Starting Map: ESV Cloud Kingdom)

5th Week
10.03 IM vs FXO (Starting Map: ESV Cloud Kingdom)
11.0 MvP vs Prime (Starting Map: Entombed Valley)

6th Week
17.03 NsHS vs StarTale (Starting Map: Metropolis)
18.03 ZeNEX vs FXO (Starting Map: Bel'Shir Beach Winter)

7th Week
24.03 Prime vs FXO (Starting Map: Crossfire)
25.03 MvP vs StarTale (Starting Map: Antiga Shipyard)

8th Week
31.03 NsHS vs IM (Starting Map: Dual Sight)
01.04 MvP vs FXO (Starting Map: Daybreak)

9th Week
07.04 StarTale vs IM (Starting Map: Daybreak)
08.04 NsHS vs ZeNEX (Starting Map: Dualsight)

10th Week
14.04 StarTale vs ZeNEX (Starting Map: Antiga Shipyard)
15.04 MvP vs IM (Starting Map: Crossfire)

11th Week
21.04 Prime vs NSHoSeo (Starting Map: Bel'Shir Beach Winter)
22.04 [4th Place Ranked Team] vs [3rd Place Ranked Team] (3rd Place Team chooses starting map)

12th Week
28.04 [Winner of 3rd Place/4th Place] vs [2nd Place Ranked Team] (2nd Place Team chooses starting map)
29.04 [Winner of 3rd/4th vs 2nd Place] vs [1st Place Ranked Team] (1st Place Team chooses starting map)


With an increased prize pool, harsher format, and glory all on the line you’d have to be crazy to miss these games! Everything will be on the line for these top Korean teams, brought to you live by our wonderful sponsor: own3D.tv
Be sure to tune into the stream on own3D.tv at the regular KSL time (23:00 KST) for all the fantastic matches brought to you by the Korean Starcraft II League and own3D.tv!

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Matches will be broadcast by a variety of commentators including KatuStarcraft (English), Khaldor (English) GoodGameRU (Russian), and sc2tv.ru (Russian)
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Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
February 09 2012 08:03 GMT
#2
thats cool and a super support for the korean Teams
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emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 08:04:32
February 09 2012 08:03 GMT
#3
whoa sick, bo11 with a good amount of money on the line should bring out some really cool games
DelRax
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia54 Posts
February 09 2012 08:04 GMT
#4
Very nice to see the KSL expanding, hopefully it'll start to get the attention it deserves!

And it's so weird to see oGs pull out, it's not like losing 2 players crippled their roster or anything...
Baffels
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1486 Posts
February 09 2012 08:05 GMT
#5
Sweet, can't wait for the KSL. :D
swordboy
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada299 Posts
February 09 2012 08:06 GMT
#6
ogs still has a decent roster compared to TSL or ZENEX, so why not?
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JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4414 Posts
February 09 2012 08:07 GMT
#7
Wish this wasn't at such a hard time to watch for me. I watched some of the vods last season but never actually got to watch live.
parazice
Profile Joined March 2011
Thailand5517 Posts
February 09 2012 08:08 GMT
#8
wtf where is my SlayerS T-T not again
Alvis
Profile Joined July 2011
876 Posts
February 09 2012 08:09 GMT
#9
why no slayers ?
jsemmens
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States439 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 08:15:09
February 09 2012 08:11 GMT
#10
Sounds great, but I think I will pass on the HD pass (GSTL is only $5.50/month and the GSL is $12/month if you buy a year). Looking forward to some great matches, especially from the teams getting knocked out of the GSTL this week.

Also, the move for oGs to drop out seems counter intuitive. Since they just lost two of their top players, they should be looking for good opportunities to cultivate their up and coming talent...
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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
February 09 2012 08:13 GMT
#11
why did ogs withdraw O_O
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
February 09 2012 08:13 GMT
#12
Is it still Winner's League format or regular Proleague style now? oGs's withdrawal is surprising though . And what's with TSL and SlayerS not joining. It's a really good opportunity for them all really. The money is really good.

Wonder if it's sponsor related.
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Severian
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2052 Posts
February 09 2012 08:13 GMT
#13
Great news. Hopefully people start noticing this league in the numbers that it warrants.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
February 09 2012 08:15 GMT
#14
On February 09 2012 17:13 pdd wrote:
Is it still Winner's League format or regular Proleague style now? oGs's withdrawal is surprising though . And what's with TSL and SlayerS not joining. It's a really good opportunity for them all really. The money is really good.

Wonder if it's sponsor related.

All matches are still Bo11 Winner's League format.

I'm not currently able to comment regarding the oGs withdrawal/absence of TSL and SlayerS
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
February 09 2012 08:15 GMT
#15
Where is SlayerS, why did oGs withdraw? D:
Awesome tournament though!
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 09 2012 08:17 GMT
#16
wowwowow i am impressed by this! good job to virgil and everyone else involved!
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skyflyfish
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada499 Posts
February 09 2012 08:21 GMT
#17
you guys should invite some foreign team
as1
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
February 09 2012 08:23 GMT
#18
Very nice, should be great.
itiswhatitis
Profile Joined February 2011
United States136 Posts
February 09 2012 08:23 GMT
#19
"In light of recent events..." They make it sound like we should know what that means... is it just because they lost MC and Nada?
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zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
February 09 2012 08:24 GMT
#20
Unfortunately, in light of recent events, Old Generations has withdrawn from participation in the KSL.


???

other than nada+MC what happened? O_o
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
February 09 2012 08:26 GMT
#21
No oGs, SlayerS and TSL makes me sad but I will watch this whenever it's on
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Molybdenum
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States358 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 08:55:01
February 09 2012 08:30 GMT
#22
On February 09 2012 17:15 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 17:13 pdd wrote:
Is it still Winner's League format or regular Proleague style now? oGs's withdrawal is surprising though . And what's with TSL and SlayerS not joining. It's a really good opportunity for them all really. The money is really good.

Wonder if it's sponsor related.

All matches are still Bo11 Winner's League format.

I'm not currently able to comment regarding the oGs withdrawal/absence of TSL and SlayerS


Best of 11 AND winner's league? Daaaaang. Are there going to be (free) vods, or is it part of the $9 HD service, or a rebroadcast or anything? 9am EST isn't ideal but this sounds pretty awesome. It might make me wake up early on a Sunday morning though

Could you update the OP with info on Slayers/oGs (and TSL?) when/if you are allowed to discuss it?

edit: in response to below, YES! Thanks a lot, this looks great
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
February 09 2012 08:33 GMT
#23
On February 09 2012 17:30 Molybdenum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 17:15 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On February 09 2012 17:13 pdd wrote:
Is it still Winner's League format or regular Proleague style now? oGs's withdrawal is surprising though . And what's with TSL and SlayerS not joining. It's a really good opportunity for them all really. The money is really good.

Wonder if it's sponsor related.

All matches are still Bo11 Winner's League format.

I'm not currently able to comment regarding the oGs withdrawal/absence of TSL and SlayerS


Best of 11 AND winner's league? Daaaaang. Are there going to be (free) vods, or is it part of the $9 HD service, or a rebroadcast or anything? 9am EST isn't ideal but this sounds pretty awesome. It might make me wake up early on a Sunday morning though

As far as I'm aware, VoDs will still be free to watch.
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Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
February 09 2012 08:44 GMT
#24
Very cool, it's great to see the Korean teams getting some more support.
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37043 Posts
February 09 2012 08:52 GMT
#25
KSL IS FOR THE MOTHER F*ING WIN!!!
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Balgrog
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1221 Posts
February 09 2012 08:56 GMT
#26
Love the payment system here! Can't wait for this!
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monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
February 09 2012 09:07 GMT
#27
This is the format I wish GSTL would adopt. KSL has always been awesome and just got more awesome. oGs leaving is sad but they're one of least exciting team from a spectator's perspective. Arguably their top 3 players (Supernonva/Fin/TheStc) are Terran and their Zerg/Protoss lineup isn't very deep at all. oGs probably wants to focus on GSTL instead.
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Manimal_pro
Profile Joined June 2010
Romania991 Posts
February 09 2012 09:14 GMT
#28
light of recent events? care to detail?
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FlamingTurd
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1059 Posts
February 09 2012 10:17 GMT
#29
Nice, I like to see more $$ going to these amazing Korean teams.
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neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
February 09 2012 10:26 GMT
#30
I'm happy KSL is finally bringing the money.
Without which I felt it was just a bunch of showmatches.
Now it seems like a legitimate league
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Full.tilt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom1709 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 10:35:31
February 09 2012 10:34 GMT
#31
Disappointed it's weekends now, oh well, good luck. Can't watch live so that pretty much means I won't watch.

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antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
February 09 2012 11:03 GMT
#32
I might subscribe this time, KSL is too good to fade away.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
February 09 2012 14:47 GMT
#33
KSL is great, can't wait for its return.
Qntc.YuMe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States792 Posts
February 09 2012 14:52 GMT
#34
i can never take startale's logo seriously
MentalGNT
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1264 Posts
February 09 2012 14:54 GMT
#35
KSL is awesome. Thanks for this! It's sad that TSL, oGs and SlayerS doesn't participate though :/
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WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 14:56:04
February 09 2012 14:55 GMT
#36
Not sure if I will subscribe, but I am happy to see the KSL stepping it up. There are a few teams missing, but alas, best of luck!
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
February 09 2012 14:56 GMT
#37
The amount of team-leagues is getting a bit silly, but I hope you'll be able to find a market. The issue of over-saturation is upon us, I think.
Modernist
Profile Joined March 2011
United States89 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 00:57:15
February 09 2012 14:56 GMT
#38
alepoff
Profile Joined January 2012
140 Posts
February 09 2012 14:58 GMT
#39
On February 09 2012 23:56 Modernist wrote:
I still think its weird that a bunch of Europeans came in and started the "KSL" -_-

who cares who started it, they seem to doing a fine job

too bad there's no slayers & ogs, but gonna be cool nonetheless
let's bounce
vijeze
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands719 Posts
February 09 2012 15:03 GMT
#40
Khaldor Starcraft League.
stillborn
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany119 Posts
February 09 2012 15:06 GMT
#41
You should rename that thread.
It has to be either The new KS League or The new KSL.
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nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
February 09 2012 15:08 GMT
#42
15k in prizes, OGS withdraws.They feel bad takin' all that money.
Rustug
Profile Joined October 2010
1488 Posts
February 09 2012 15:08 GMT
#43
That is still an incredible line-up. I enjoyed the past tournament and I'm sure the upcoming will not disappoint.
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Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
February 09 2012 15:14 GMT
#44
So. Damn. Awesome. HYPED!
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pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
February 09 2012 15:17 GMT
#45
Really happy

I like the KSL a lot and khaldor is one of my favorite casters
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
February 09 2012 15:22 GMT
#46
Looks good. I will make sure to tune in or at least watch the vods.
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Xcobidoo
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1871 Posts
February 09 2012 15:28 GMT
#47
Finally getting a subscription fee which I'll gladly pay since KSL has been awesome so far :D
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Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
February 09 2012 16:33 GMT
#48
This is ran by SK Reis, who's the SK Gaming RTS manager. Might be some bad blood between oGs and SK after the MC transfer (It also seemed so from the Spunky statement). So that might be the reason they arent participating.
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
February 09 2012 18:29 GMT
#49
My favorite team withdrawn I'll still try to find some time to watch some matches.
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0kz
Profile Joined January 2010
Italy1118 Posts
February 09 2012 18:34 GMT
#50
On February 10 2012 01:33 Eee wrote:
This is ran by SK Reis, who's the SK Gaming RTS manager. Might be some bad blood between oGs and SK after the MC transfer (It also seemed so from the Spunky statement). So that might be the reason they arent participating.


can you link the statement?
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Akhee
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil811 Posts
February 09 2012 18:37 GMT
#51
thats awesome, certainly will watch it more often
Xarles
Profile Joined July 2011
459 Posts
February 09 2012 18:41 GMT
#52
Hmm wish SlayerS could replace oGs. =(
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
February 09 2012 18:42 GMT
#53
On February 10 2012 01:33 Eee wrote:
This is ran by SK Reis, who's the SK Gaming RTS manager. Might be some bad blood between oGs and SK after the MC transfer (It also seemed so from the Spunky statement). So that might be the reason they arent participating.


Don't think there is some bad blood between them since he is translating for supernova at iem sao paulo
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
February 09 2012 18:46 GMT
#54
On February 10 2012 03:42 pPingu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 01:33 Eee wrote:
This is ran by SK Reis, who's the SK Gaming RTS manager. Might be some bad blood between oGs and SK after the MC transfer (It also seemed so from the Spunky statement). So that might be the reason they arent participating.


Don't think there is some bad blood between them since he is translating for supernova at iem sao paulo


That is what I'm wondering about. Why is he translating for nova when the sk/ogs partnership is over? SK.Supernova incoming?
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TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
February 09 2012 18:50 GMT
#55
On February 10 2012 03:46 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 03:42 pPingu wrote:
On February 10 2012 01:33 Eee wrote:
This is ran by SK Reis, who's the SK Gaming RTS manager. Might be some bad blood between oGs and SK after the MC transfer (It also seemed so from the Spunky statement). So that might be the reason they arent participating.


Don't think there is some bad blood between them since he is translating for supernova at iem sao paulo


That is what I'm wondering about. Why is he translating for nova when the sk/ogs partnership is over? SK.Supernova incoming?

because reis is a boss?
i would like to read spunkys statement thou
FTD
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
February 09 2012 18:50 GMT
#56
I'll definitely watch this. Give the high prize pool, teams will use their top players more often :D
Tivu
Profile Joined February 2012
United States244 Posts
February 09 2012 18:51 GMT
#57
Awesome line up.
Ry-Masta-T
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States478 Posts
February 09 2012 18:54 GMT
#58
What happened with OGS!
Speak the word...
Acronysis
Profile Joined November 2011
872 Posts
February 09 2012 18:57 GMT
#59
Glad to see that there are more tournaments catering to the Korean teams. Despite having amazing talent and being among the best, they don't have as much money as some foreigners team do so I'm really happy to see this and hopefully this can contribute them adding more players to their roster, or at least help them maintain them =)

Gogo Zenex; would love to see them earn a little recognition and $$$
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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
February 09 2012 18:59 GMT
#60
No oGs, no SlayerS, no TSL.
Most of the good korean terran are in these team. TT

Well.. KSL is still awsome !
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rotegirte
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany2859 Posts
February 09 2012 19:09 GMT
#61
Yay Khaldor Starcraft League returns! :D
Lavit2099
Profile Joined November 2011
United States390 Posts
February 09 2012 19:10 GMT
#62
A Korean only event with a sub fee in order to "support the Korean teams." Just seems wrong to me. I really really really dislike this "us vs. them" attitude and stuff like this just further enforces that. I'm a fan of equality, not singling out certain people and trying to help them while ignoring others.

No thanks, but good luck.
Ry-Masta-T
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States478 Posts
February 09 2012 19:17 GMT
#63
Koreans actually have it pretty crappy. They basically have 2 tournaments to compete in (3 if you separate code A/S), despite the fact that 80% of them are better than top foreigners. The money made to skill ratio in korea is so much lower, they need more tournaments.
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Lavit2099
Profile Joined November 2011
United States390 Posts
February 09 2012 19:44 GMT
#64
On February 10 2012 04:17 Ry-Masta-T wrote:
Koreans actually have it pretty crappy. They basically have 2 tournaments to compete in (3 if you separate code A/S), despite the fact that 80% of them are better than top foreigners. The money made to skill ratio in korea is so much lower, they need more tournaments.


Your argument would be made more powerful if not for the large number of Koreans that participate in foreign tournaments. A Korean won 4 of the 5 MLG events they were invited to and came in second at Orlando. A Korean had a chance to win the main IPL3 event (but lost a ZvZ to Stephano). Won Blizzcon in '10 and '11. Won Dreamhack Winter '11. Won BOTH seasons of NASL. Won WCG '11. If Koreans weren't winning (and getting in the money, as to use a poker phrase) I could see that. As is, sorry. If a middling Korean wants more money they have various options in other teams that can put more money into their players.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
February 09 2012 20:57 GMT
#65
On February 10 2012 04:17 Ry-Masta-T wrote:
Koreans actually have it pretty crappy. They basically have 2 tournaments to compete in (3 if you separate code A/S), despite the fact that 80% of them are better than top foreigners. The money made to skill ratio in korea is so much lower, they need more tournaments.

There's more than that.

You have the GSL, you have the Korean Weekly, you have the KSL, and you have the EWM.

On top of that there are plenty of non-region locked tournaments that are purely online that Koreans can play in.

Top that off with Korean Invites to a lot of tournaments and you have quite a few opportunities.
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GoSuChicken
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany1726 Posts
February 09 2012 21:34 GMT
#66
good for the teams to earn some money
UKSCgAn
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom57 Posts
February 09 2012 21:46 GMT
#67
Gonna be awesome.

Really good to see some more monetary support for Korean teams.
MVP HWAITING!
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
February 09 2012 22:32 GMT
#68
aww no 2v2, well its a korean event so thats as expected. Like before nice to see more tournaments in korea and goodluck with your new format.
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
February 09 2012 23:45 GMT
#69
On February 10 2012 03:50 TRAP[yoo] wrote:
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On February 10 2012 03:46 Canucklehead wrote:
On February 10 2012 03:42 pPingu wrote:
On February 10 2012 01:33 Eee wrote:
This is ran by SK Reis, who's the SK Gaming RTS manager. Might be some bad blood between oGs and SK after the MC transfer (It also seemed so from the Spunky statement). So that might be the reason they arent participating.


Don't think there is some bad blood between them since he is translating for supernova at iem sao paulo


That is what I'm wondering about. Why is he translating for nova when the sk/ogs partnership is over? SK.Supernova incoming?

because reis is a boss?
i would like to read spunkys statement thou


It was a bit indirect, but it gave me the feeling that something didnt go as planned.
Our partnership with eSahara is more like what we had with sk-gaming during 2011. Although our business partnership did end a way I did not want it to towards the end with sk-gaming
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
February 10 2012 03:03 GMT
#70
On February 10 2012 07:32 FeyFey wrote:
aww no 2v2, well its a korean event so thats as expected. Like before nice to see more tournaments in korea and goodluck with your new format.

Yeah, the KSL doesn't currently have any plans to involve 2v2 matches.

They're kind of a joke.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
March 31 2012 02:43 GMT
#71
ZeNEX is leading the league with a +10 W/L differential. o_O

Who would've thunk it?
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
March 31 2012 03:04 GMT
#72
ogs: it's a 15k prize pool? shit we better withdraw
Deshkar
Profile Joined June 2011
Singapore1244 Posts
March 31 2012 03:31 GMT
#73
awww a pity that TSL, OGS and most imptly, Slayers aren't in this. Still, a very awesome league to watch whenever i'm free.
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