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Randomaccount#77123
United States5003 Posts
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darkrabbi
United States21 Posts
On February 06 2012 18:49 fams wrote: Who is the interviewer for this I wonder? Seems like a few good questions in there. I wrote/asked the questions. Marcus didn't even know he was being interviewed until right before and was still able to deliver those great answers. | ||
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Forsy
Canada36 Posts
On February 06 2012 19:56 daemir wrote: fill the stadium for djWHEAT Oh man I remember the times of Enemy Territory at its hight, you'd tune into ETTV then load up a shoutcast stream with winamp and use some plugins to match the audio with the video, they'd give like countdowns so people could get synced, then watch some badass teamplay (idle, parodia, gunslingers, dsky etc) and insane aim (mystic, mAus, ferus..). That was pretty epic. Kinda sad streaming wasn't where it is now back then, maybe that community would have grown more. Filling a 1000 slot ETTV server was like whoah, and some biggest finals could maybe get 2.5k or something. Now with streaming there stuff like LoL finals getting 220k viewers and just eu tournament finals near 100k. Insane. Yep, that was a helluva lot of fun times! Tosspot and DJWheat were great casters there! | ||
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Flamingo777
United States1190 Posts
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BrosephBrostar
United States445 Posts
On February 06 2012 23:21 IdrA wrote: it doesnt exist outside korea and it was never a game he focused on, in what context would you want him to discuss it? no one bashes bw, it just isnt relevant anymore in foreign esports. That's a pretty pessimistic way of looking at it. It's not relevant anymore because everyone stopped talking about it, even though you would think that a fan of SC2 would have more common interest in Proleague than some fps game tournament. Also it might not have been a game he focused on but that's him in this video right? | ||
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Captain Peabody
United States3128 Posts
That's a pretty pessimistic way of looking at it. It's not relevant anymore because everyone stopped talking about it, even though you would think that a fan of SC2 would have more common interest in Proleague than some fps game tournament. Also it might not have been a game he focused on but that's him in this video right? It's not that no foreigners watch BW anymore, or talk about it; it's that there is no foreign BW infrastructure, virtually no foreign BW tournaments, and virtually no foreign BW progamers still in existence. Compared to games like LoL, SC2, etc, it's not just small or minor, it's completely nonexistent. Sure, you've got a nice population of people who play BW in their spare time and a smaller population of people who watch Proleague and Korean BW events (such as, for instance, myself; go Samsung KHAN!); but all of that does not a foreign BW scene make. In terms of foreign ESPORTS, BW is not on the map. | ||
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BrosephBrostar
United States445 Posts
On February 07 2012 08:18 Captain Peabody wrote: It's not that no foreigners watch BW anymore, or talk about it; it's that there is no foreign BW infrastructure, virtually no foreign BW tournaments, and virtually no foreign BW progamers still in existence. Compared to games like LoL, SC2, etc, it's not just small or minor, it's completely nonexistent. Sure, you've got a nice population of people who play BW in their spare time and a smaller population of people who watch Proleague and Korean BW events (such as, for instance, myself; go Samsung KHAN!); but all of that does not a foreign BW scene make. In terms of foreign ESPORTS, BW is not on the map. Why does it matter if there's "foreign" infrastructure or not? There's basically no American presence in F1, but that doesn't mean everyone in the country should just watch NASCAR instead. To get back to the original subject, ok maybe wheat doesn't care about BW and he never mentions it along with "other games" because he thinks no one else cares, but do I really believe that? I can't help but have a suspicion that there's some kind of "don't talk about BW" prohibition among all the big name community figures because they see it as direct competition to their own business. | ||
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Randomaccount#77123
United States5003 Posts
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Randomaccount#77123
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ThomasHobbes
United States197 Posts
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djWHEAT
United States925 Posts
On February 06 2012 21:01 Azzur wrote: Another SC2 vs BW comment - djWheat has never trashed BW - he only calls out BW elitists Thank you. | ||
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djWHEAT
United States925 Posts
On February 06 2012 23:42 son1dow wrote: This. This interview was, while professional, pretty obvious. Sorry wheat, I'm not going to respect bejeweled, and really, I shouldn't be asked to. EDIT: Who cares about helping teams. Hey guys, support my company, it isn't related to starcraft but I'ma fan of starcraft and if I get more money I might have more free time to watch starcraft! The more I read these responses the more I realize that those who are willing to "accept" other games are typically from the "old school" group of eSports fans. And that's fine. I'm not asking you to necessarily embrace and enjoy every game out there, I simply ask that people don't shit on and disrespect other games. I don't particularly like cubing (Rubik's) but god damn do I respect the amount of skill it takes to do something like that. See how easy that is? | ||
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djWHEAT
United States925 Posts
On February 07 2012 07:42 BrosephBrostar wrote: That's a pretty pessimistic way of looking at it. It's not relevant anymore because everyone stopped talking about it, even though you would think that a fan of SC2 would have more common interest in Proleague than some fps game tournament. Also it might not have been a game he focused on but that's him in this video right? yes that's me in that video. Believe it or not I've supported BW since 2003. Which is why it also boggling that you make it seem like I ignore the game. I don't push Quake 3 like I used to, but I put thousands of broadcast hours into that game over 8 years as well. Besides, why suddenly am I the guy who has to take the reigns of BW coverage? Seems to me that there are still enough interested folks out there that someone should be doing a show or whatever. Is Day9 also to blame? His show started with BW, but moved to SC2. I don't think that means Sean is "ignoring" BW. | ||
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djWHEAT
United States925 Posts
On February 09 2012 03:28 ThomasHobbes wrote: I have no interest in other game titles, and their growing often directly conflicts with sc2 interests. Sc2 and LoL have both taken sponsorship money from other titles, why would I want the same to happen to sc2? Good games that provide entertainment will get viewers, bad games will die out. Trying to string along the bad with the good is only going to hurt the industry. Some games have to be marginalized, go look at bowling and comPare it to a mainstream sport, they earn a pittance, and "growing" bowling doesn't help other sports, it isn't exciting and doesn't attract a huge fan base. IMO, good riddance. You won't use a sports comparison when it helps a point, but you are quick to use it when it goes against the sport. PRO GAMING != SPORTS Obviously Bowling getting bigger doesn't help Gymnastics. But fucking a guys, look at our activity... we see it as a conglomerate of different games, but companies see it as just "competitive game playing". There is much more parallel growth than many of you are making it seem. | ||
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NagAfightinG
United Kingdom270 Posts
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mindspike
Canada1902 Posts
On February 06 2012 20:02 iky43210 wrote: I just don't understand this "less segregated" issue, or "esport" in general. I shouldn't have to give a damn about baseball just because I like football. DJWheat already explained it. Each game is a slice of a pie and as the pie gets bigger each slice gets bigger. Understand? That's why its called e-sports and not just e-sport. | ||
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sansalvador
Austria308 Posts
On February 07 2012 03:58 darkrabbi wrote: I wrote/asked the questions. Marcus didn't even know he was being interviewed until right before and was still able to deliver those great answers. That's because he said what really is on his mind, he didn't have to think for a second. Now I can has pt2 plx? | ||
Alex.IGN
United States1050 Posts
Edit: Oh god giant slasher face! | ||
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Crais
Canada2136 Posts
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sansalvador
Austria308 Posts
On February 12 2012 04:43 Alex.IGN wrote: Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMWWTXcgqYw Edit: Oh god giant slasher face! I guess that's what love looks like.  | ||
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For many that was the first glimpse of true esports, it had tons of followers. No video streaming then, just casting audio. 
