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FXOpen
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1844 Posts
January 18 2012 13:06 GMT
#61
Koreans told me "Guinea pig leave cos he want to go USA".

www.twitter.com/FXOpenESports
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
January 18 2012 13:08 GMT
#62
On January 18 2012 22:06 FXOpen wrote:
Koreans told me "Guinea pig leave cos he want to go USA".


Seriously?

Another one? How much more is this gonna go on for. Its better to stay in your current korean team. Instead of having a very high risk gamble of waiting/looking for a foreign team to pick you up
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 13:10:33
January 18 2012 13:09 GMT
#63
On January 18 2012 22:06 FXOpen wrote:
Koreans told me "Guinea pig leave cos he want to go USA".



Fuck yeah USA USA USA.

Heh. Good luck to him. MVP looks like an awesome team from what I can gather from Genius and DRG and SC and so forth. Would hate to leave home.
twitch.tv/medrea
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 13:48:59
January 18 2012 13:10 GMT
#64
On January 18 2012 22:03 eYeball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 21:41 MrMercuG wrote:
On January 18 2012 21:37 snowhell wrote:
On January 18 2012 21:30 MrMercuG wrote:
On January 18 2012 21:23 snowhell wrote:
On January 18 2012 20:59 Eee wrote:
On January 18 2012 20:43 snowhell wrote:
you think TSL is rich? TSL is one of the poorest teams.

TSL is actually the richest team in Korea (alongside ST).
TSL send their players to foreign event without any foreign support, and they also give all their players salary (them not recieving salary any longer is not true!)


they are still one of the poorest. I can think of alteast 5 teams richer.


Say it then, because you will be suprised.


oh please fill me in on TSL's finances. didnt realize the TSL accountant was in this thread.


You said you knew atleast 5 korean teams richer than TSL, and I said that it's not true. so yeah. Only like SlayerS and ST are richer than TSL.


What about FXO, IM and prime?

Prime is pretty damn poor from what I understand. They didn't even have a SPONSOR until TT eSports came along. And don't bother pointing out that Chicken thing, that ran out like a good 6 months ago.

To get an idea of how many sponsors a team has, you can check Team's Liquidpedia pages:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Team_SCV_Life
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Incredible_Miracle
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Old_Generations
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/MvP_(team)
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/HoSeo
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/SlayerS
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Prime
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
FXOpen
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1844 Posts
January 18 2012 13:11 GMT
#65
Unless things dont work for guineapig i dont see him joining another korean team.

Which I personally think is a mistake.
www.twitter.com/FXOpenESports
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 13:40:51
January 18 2012 13:32 GMT
#66
On January 18 2012 22:03 eYeball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 21:41 MrMercuG wrote:
On January 18 2012 21:37 snowhell wrote:
On January 18 2012 21:30 MrMercuG wrote:
On January 18 2012 21:23 snowhell wrote:
On January 18 2012 20:59 Eee wrote:
On January 18 2012 20:43 snowhell wrote:
you think TSL is rich? TSL is one of the poorest teams.

TSL is actually the richest team in Korea (alongside ST).
TSL send their players to foreign event without any foreign support, and they also give all their players salary (them not recieving salary any longer is not true!)


they are still one of the poorest. I can think of alteast 5 teams richer.


Say it then, because you will be suprised.


oh please fill me in on TSL's finances. didnt realize the TSL accountant was in this thread.


You said you knew atleast 5 korean teams richer than TSL, and I said that it's not true. so yeah. Only like SlayerS and ST are richer than TSL.


What about FXO, IM and prime?

Neither IM and Prime have that much money really, both teams have been unable to give salaries to the players and neither have they been able to send their players to foreign events (the exception beeing when IM was under Quantic, and MKPs reddit fiananced tour to MLG and ESWC).

TSL have been sending their players to foreign tournaments without foreign funding for a long time now, no team besides SlayerS and Startale have been able to do that. TSL is stll the only/on of few team/s that pays their players salaries.

TSL have strong sponsors in form of G.Skill, Western Digital, Sky Digital and many others.
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
January 18 2012 13:36 GMT
#67
On January 18 2012 22:11 FXOpen wrote:
Unless things dont work for guineapig i dont see him joining another korean team.

Which I personally think is a mistake.

Always a mistake when a korean leaves for a foreigner team IMO
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
January 18 2012 13:38 GMT
#68
I hope some foreigner team throws big money at him!!!!
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
pStar
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
996 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 13:43:54
January 18 2012 13:43 GMT
#69
The problem is, what foreigner team will want to pick him up.

If we look at all the possibilites.

-EG
-TL
-Mouz
-Dignitas
-Complexity
-Quantic

The only teams that I can think of that would pick up a player of his caliber. And they don't really even need another player.

rems
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands186 Posts
January 18 2012 13:47 GMT
#70
On January 18 2012 22:43 pStar wrote:
The problem is, what foreigner team will want to pick him up.

If we look at all the possibilites.

-EG
-TL
-Mouz
-Dignitas
-Complexity
-Quantic

The only teams that I can think of that would pick up a player of his caliber. And they don't really even need another player.



Fnatic?
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 13:50:58
January 18 2012 13:47 GMT
#71
On January 18 2012 22:43 pStar wrote:
The problem is, what foreigner team will want to pick him up.

If we look at all the possibilites.

-EG
-TL
-Mouz
-Dignitas
-Complexity
-Quantic

The only teams that I can think of that would pick up a player of his caliber. And they don't really even need another player.


Wont be joining Col, Mouz, and Dig. Dont see why he would leave mvp to join coL. MVP players weren't really that fond of Naniwa either i belive, so dont think Quantic either.
Nazeron
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1046 Posts
January 18 2012 14:04 GMT
#72
WOW, didnt expect that, seems like a fair amount of koreans are leaving teams, most looking for foreign teams so they can play in different tournaments
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Versioned
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom73 Posts
January 18 2012 14:05 GMT
#73
Are they doing this because the foreign scene is where the money is at?
There is a theory which states, that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly dissapear and be replaced by something even more inexplicable. There is another theory that this has already happened.
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
January 18 2012 14:12 GMT
#74
On January 18 2012 23:05 Versioned wrote:
Are they doing this because the foreign scene is where the money is at?


Yes. And this was bound to happen. Money in the foreign scene, skilled players in the korean scene.
Everyone is preparing for a new record year 2012 with bigger pricepools while the GSL effectively reduced their pool by having fewer events. And the GSL is everything the Koreans have.

I don't really find it strange. It exists in other sports, like brazilian soccer players.

In fact, Guineapig shows more commitment than other programers by stating he wants to actually move to the US. Maybe he also has some other reasons for this.
Ghrimnar
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany260 Posts
January 18 2012 14:40 GMT
#75
On January 18 2012 20:32 Haydin wrote:
Now is the time contracts are up. I think we're only at the start of the free agents/team switching


Very possible.
oGsMC // NSHS_Sage // IMMvp // IMNesTea
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
January 18 2012 14:42 GMT
#76
On January 18 2012 23:12 00Visor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 23:05 Versioned wrote:
Are they doing this because the foreign scene is where the money is at?


Yes. And this was bound to happen. Money in the foreign scene, skilled players in the korean scene.
Everyone is preparing for a new record year 2012 with bigger pricepools while the GSL effectively reduced their pool by having fewer events. And the GSL is everything the Koreans have.

I don't really find it strange. It exists in other sports, like brazilian soccer players.

In fact, Guineapig shows more commitment than other programers by stating he wants to actually move to the US. Maybe he also has some other reasons for this.


The problem is that Korea is where you want to go to improve the most. There is a high monetary incentive for these players to join foreign teams but it comes at a probably cost to their skill. Generally in other sports the money is where the talent is. Unfortunately for SC2, that is not the case ;\. I think this can be a somewhat large problem if more and more Korean pros try to pull the same stunts. It just can't be good for the scene having all these top talent prospects looking to join second rate teams because they can offer more money than a top Korean team..
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
January 18 2012 14:42 GMT
#77
On January 18 2012 22:43 pStar wrote:
The problem is, what foreigner team will want to pick him up.

If we look at all the possibilites.

-EG
-TL
-Mouz
-Dignitas
-Complexity
-Quantic

The only teams that I can think of that would pick up a player of his caliber. And they don't really even need another player.


Not sure if trolling but I could definitely see eSahara, CheckSix or Fnatic pick him up
SaSe fan club manager
BadgerBadger8264
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands409 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 14:53:12
January 18 2012 14:45 GMT
#78
Another one? How much more is this gonna go on for. Its better to stay in your current korean team. Instead of having a very high risk gamble of waiting/looking for a foreign team to pick you up


They earn practically nothing in Korea, considering the GSL only happens every 2 months now and you have to be placed deep within Code S every time to earn a decent amount of money, there's also very little small cups in Korea to earn money from and few teams offer steady salary. Considering the worst foreign players earn tenfold what the worst Korean players do, and the fact that the worst Korean players are better than the best foreign players, it really isn't that much of a risk.
gullberg
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden1301 Posts
January 18 2012 14:46 GMT
#79
Guineapig is sick good he won't have a problem finding a good team I think ;D
michielbrands
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1146 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 14:48:28
January 18 2012 14:47 GMT
#80
Why is everyone so surprised that a lot of Koreans leave their teams. They see foreigners come to their country who get like double the salary they get....

Of course this will clash with the salaries the Korean teams can offer. In WC3 this was no other, there were no big Koreans teams, almost all Koreans played for big international or Chinese teams.
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