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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 17:13:43
January 18 2012 17:01 GMT
#101
KR players are going to keep leaving til there exists and equilibrium of KR players between KR and NA to the point that the illusion that infinite money exists in the west for non MVP MMA Nestea DRG caliber players is gone. At least it allows NA players to get some more practice vs. KR players on NA server. And for that I'm fine with it.
get rich or die mining
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Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
January 18 2012 17:07 GMT
#102
Aww god damnit. I'm a big fan of the MVP team so it sucks to see good players like Violet and GuineaPig leave. :-/
Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 17:14:36
January 18 2012 17:12 GMT
#103
On January 19 2012 01:48 Sif_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 01:35 Seraphone wrote:
On January 19 2012 01:18 Sif_ wrote:
koreans should stay in their korean teams. whats the point in rooting for liquid or eg against korean domination if you're rooting for a korean anyways?


Because not everyone is a racist.


so rooting for foreigner makes someone a racist? i guess you learn something new everyday

anyway, i like the clash of foreigner vs koreans..wouldnt like seeing foreigner teams with their aces from korea.

and i also feel like those players leaving korean teams to join foreigner ones just want it easy, to compete with lesser skilled players, kind of giving up their shot at the top level of progamers


Rooting for all foreigners over all Koreans and not wanting Koreans to be involved in the foreign scene and join foreign teams makes you a racist, yes.

Supporting players from your own country is fine and understandable. But someone from Sweden blindly supporting everyone from America, China and Brazil over Korea based purely on nationality is pretty damn weird.

People should just support the players who's play they like the best.
Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, MC, Oz, Jjakji!
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
January 18 2012 17:18 GMT
#104
Look at Hero for example. Nobody really knew about him, and he had just a few appearances in the GSTL and Code A. Then Liquid signs him, and suddenly he is flying all over the world to participate in various tournaments. A whole world of opportunities opened up for Hero. There are many Koreans in the same position that oGsHero was in, and they feel that they too have the skills to do as well as Hero, if not better. Many of them just want the chance to compete, to prove that they are top players and not just another practice partner for MVP, MMA, DRG or MC.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
January 18 2012 17:24 GMT
#105
Im getting completely lost in who's leaving who and who's joined who. I think may have to just ignore it all until around March and then figure it out then when its (hopefully) died down a bit.

Good luck to Guineapig though, I really liked watching his play!
♞Nerdrage is the cause of global warming♞
xxgeffxx
Profile Joined September 2011
United States119 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 18:58:42
January 18 2012 18:53 GMT
#106
shoot next thing you know someone like mc, mvp, or nestea will be joining a foreign team. the smarter ones probably wont jump ship until they have a solid landing to put there feet on (and that could be a foreign team, or market popularity etc)

edit: oh and I should say, I don't think this is completed unexpected: isn't the vast majority of sc2 professionals ones who didn't want to be punching bags to the top tier BW professionals(who even now make way more than sc2 professionals)? MVP made the switch in this respect to be a big fish in a smaller pond. I'd imagine this sort of behavior will continue until being a small fish in a big pond will be the equivalent financially of being a bigger fish in a small pond.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
January 18 2012 18:55 GMT
#107
On January 19 2012 03:53 xxgeffxx wrote:
shoot next thing you know someone like SK_MC, mvp, or nestea will be joining a foreign team. the smarter ones probably wont jump ship until they have a solid landing to put there feet on (and that could be a foreign team, or market popularity etc)

You're a little late there.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
cutler
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany609 Posts
January 18 2012 19:06 GMT
#108
i just heard MTW got an open spot *cough*

;-)
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 19:18:48
January 18 2012 19:16 GMT
#109
It's pretty simple why so many are leaving. They see players like puma and hero raking in the overseas money and they think to themselves, I'm just as good as them, but just don't have the same opportunities as them. They want a piece of that foreigner money too.

With only 5 gsl this year as well, the korean money will be harder to come by, since MVP and them will be winning it all. The people who do make it to code a/s will spend most of their time just trying to retain their spots with no real chance of actually winning a GSL and the big money. Then you have all the code b players who have no prize money to play for, unless they can get into code a/s.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
PHC
Profile Joined March 2011
United States472 Posts
January 19 2012 03:13 GMT
#110
On January 19 2012 01:48 Sif_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 01:35 Seraphone wrote:
On January 19 2012 01:18 Sif_ wrote:
koreans should stay in their korean teams. whats the point in rooting for liquid or eg against korean domination if you're rooting for a korean anyways?


Because not everyone is a racist.


so rooting for foreigner makes someone a racist? i guess you learn something new everyday

anyway, i like the clash of foreigner vs koreans..wouldnt like seeing foreigner teams with their aces from korea.

and i also feel like those players leaving korean teams to join foreigner ones just want it easy, to compete with lesser skilled players, kind of giving up their shot at the top level of progamers


Sif_ is racist and he doesn't even know it. Poor thing.
Kuror
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States399 Posts
January 19 2012 03:14 GMT
#111
omg SERIOUSLY? lol
This is the 8th player transfer/leaving I believe?
BrassMonkey27
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada616 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 09:03:00
January 19 2012 09:02 GMT
#112
Watching Guineapig's stream right now and someone from Check6 just invited him to a call on skype for a possible recruitment. Guinea told him to wait after he's done streaming.
HoneyBadger.784 Diamond KR "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
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