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GSL 2012 S1 Code S Groups Announced - Page 26

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Fatze
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1342 Posts
December 30 2011 13:31 GMT
#501
crazy groups... especially C :D glgl IdrA
Comfort from bottles, cheers from beers the guitars are our weapons and we know how to kill!
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9020 Posts
December 30 2011 13:35 GMT
#502
Random selection sucks. Hope GSL realizes this soon.
skrotcyk
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden432 Posts
December 30 2011 13:37 GMT
#503
On December 30 2011 22:10 Miscellany wrote:
I think MMA and Mvp basically got byes with their draws. I'm surprised Leenock picked forGG, but I guess we'll see how good he truly is now.

Best part has to be there's no "weak group" anymore, everyone is really scary, and (for once), it seems everyone deserves to be in code S


wtf are u talking about? leenock didn't pick anyone, groups were random(with 1 player from every tier)
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
December 30 2011 13:42 GMT
#504
If I didn't know this was random, I would of thought GOM is trying to pit teammates against eachother lol, pretty terrible groups all around.
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
December 30 2011 13:43 GMT
#505
On December 30 2011 22:35 Garnet wrote:
Random selection sucks. Hope GSL realizes this soon.




-_-;;

Honestly what do you want? People were complaining that the format where player chose their opponents made for one sided finals and now that we have random selection from 4 different seedings (As it is done in many other serious sports competitions) it's not good either?

So I'm really curious what you'd suggest instead?


Anyway!


I love how GSL code S feels stacked with insanely skilled players nowadays! Remember in the beginning of Code S it didn't feel nearly as sick, but now I'm practically drooling over the amount of talent in this tournament ! :D


Hoping Sen and Idra plays some great games and atleast one of them makes it through! Even though Idra's group is absolutely insane!
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
RusHXceL
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1004 Posts
December 30 2011 13:45 GMT
#506
MVP IDRA AND NEATEA IN ALL IN 1 SAME GROUP.

SERIOUS THIS GOTTA be FIXED like what are the chances
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-30 13:49:10
December 30 2011 13:47 GMT
#507
terrible groups for the foreigners lol

sen is going to get 2 rax'd all 3 matches w 2 slayers terrans there, and jjakji will do the same
d00p
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
711 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-30 13:55:06
December 30 2011 13:47 GMT
#508
Group B is totally sick. Why would Leenock pick Fin? It doesn't make any sense. Then you have MC who is finding his form lately. All three are really aggresive types. And then there is Supernova who is apparently one of these "best in practise" guys. Sick group. Best get my season pass now.

edit. apparently the groups were random, so that explains it. Still, sick group. Nice job randomness.

edit2. no, apparently not random after all. Great either way.
RhinosDontGame
Profile Joined December 2009
47 Posts
December 30 2011 13:49 GMT
#509
On December 30 2011 22:45 RusHXceL wrote:
MVP IDRA AND NEATEA IN ALL IN 1 SAME GROUP.

SERIOUS THIS GOTTA be FIXED like what are the chances

You're making it sound like Idra is in the same league as Nestea and MVP. Stop that.
-
tztztz
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany314 Posts
December 30 2011 13:52 GMT
#510
On December 30 2011 22:49 RhinosDontGame wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2011 22:45 RusHXceL wrote:
MVP IDRA AND NEATEA IN ALL IN 1 SAME GROUP.

SERIOUS THIS GOTTA be FIXED like what are the chances

You're making it sound like Idra is in the same league as Nestea and MVP. Stop that.


eh, he is? at least in the same league as nestea...
Ausare
Profile Joined December 2011
Singapore6 Posts
December 30 2011 13:52 GMT
#511
On December 30 2011 22:37 skrotcyk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2011 22:10 Miscellany wrote:
I think MMA and Mvp basically got byes with their draws. I'm surprised Leenock picked forGG, but I guess we'll see how good he truly is now.

Best part has to be there's no "weak group" anymore, everyone is really scary, and (for once), it seems everyone deserves to be in code S


wtf are u talking about? leenock didn't pick anyone, groups were random(with 1 player from every tier)



wtf are YOU talking about? the winner and runner-up get to pick their tier 4 opponent, jjakji and Leenock got to pick, please get your facts right.
parazice
Profile Joined March 2011
Thailand5517 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-30 13:55:23
December 30 2011 13:53 GMT
#512
On December 30 2011 22:37 skrotcyk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2011 22:10 Miscellany wrote:
I think MMA and Mvp basically got byes with their draws. I'm surprised Leenock picked forGG, but I guess we'll see how good he truly is now.

Best part has to be there's no "weak group" anymore, everyone is really scary, and (for once), it seems everyone deserves to be in code S


wtf are u talking about? leenock didn't pick anyone, groups were random(with 1 player from every tier)


LOL you serious ?
Kuskinator
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom43 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-30 14:05:09
December 30 2011 13:55 GMT
#513
On December 30 2011 22:35 Garnet wrote:
Random selection sucks. Hope GSL realizes this soon.

What are they going to do?

Hand pick all the groups so that the "favorites" get a clear advantage to the quarters?
Hand pick all the groups to get a good racial distribution across all groups?
Hand pick all the groups to avoid team kills?
Have players pick their own groups so we end up with one half of the draw being incredibly strong and the other lackluster? How do we decide who picks these groups first and in what order after that?

This system is almost perfect. I like the idea that only the winner & runner-up can pick their first opponent from the lowest tier. The only thing they can perhaps improve upon is to *attempt* to remove team kills and *attempt* to get a better racial distribution. This is a very difficult task because of the uneven distribution of races and number of teams with varying numbers of players.

The UEFA Champions League has the same system - Top teams (calculated over a rolling 5-year period) are placed in top tier, with the rest cascading down according to their ranking co-efficient (in this case: GSL Ranking points). This has worked very well for a long period of time and rewards consistency. Sure you get a "dark horse" enter the fray where they are considered "better" than the rest of the tier they're placed in (Man City/ForGG this year) but with no history you can't subjectively rank them higher up otherwise you'd have to do this for everyone to remain fairness. You may get a team/player that underperformed for a couple of seasons and so they drop a tier as punishment for themselves (facing harder opponents from the off Inter/Milan both recently). This hasn't happened because there's no decay in GSL points yet, but it will happen once the format has settled.

The Champions League does have a very complex draw that GOMTV might be able to adapt for themselves. In the first knock-out stage the groups are drawn to avoid teams from the same countries meeting each other - at the same time the draws also filter out the dates certain teams can play on to avoid any more than 2 teams from a single country having a match on the same night - to maximise revenue from TV rights.
I don't know exactly how it works or how to explain it, but there's a possibility to maybe reduce team kills. There might be too many different teams and too many different players for this to be feasible however.

Edit: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/champions-league/7964960/Champions-League-draw-a-complete-guide.html
This kind of explains it better (from 10/11 season)



I tried to make this make as much sense as possible - but I'm not sure why since some people are incapable of reading (i.e. people not understanding the tiers fullstop).
psteeleneg
Profile Joined June 2011
48 Posts
December 30 2011 13:55 GMT
#514
On December 30 2011 22:52 Ausare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2011 22:37 skrotcyk wrote:
On December 30 2011 22:10 Miscellany wrote:
I think MMA and Mvp basically got byes with their draws. I'm surprised Leenock picked forGG, but I guess we'll see how good he truly is now.

Best part has to be there's no "weak group" anymore, everyone is really scary, and (for once), it seems everyone deserves to be in code S


wtf are u talking about? leenock didn't pick anyone, groups were random(with 1 player from every tier)



wtf are YOU talking about? the winner and runner-up get to pick their tier 4 opponent, jjakji and Leenock got to pick, please get your facts right.


That's for NEXT round's group play. Get YOUR facts straight
parazice
Profile Joined March 2011
Thailand5517 Posts
December 30 2011 13:56 GMT
#515
On December 30 2011 22:55 psteeleneg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2011 22:52 Ausare wrote:
On December 30 2011 22:37 skrotcyk wrote:
On December 30 2011 22:10 Miscellany wrote:
I think MMA and Mvp basically got byes with their draws. I'm surprised Leenock picked forGG, but I guess we'll see how good he truly is now.

Best part has to be there's no "weak group" anymore, everyone is really scary, and (for once), it seems everyone deserves to be in code S


wtf are u talking about? leenock didn't pick anyone, groups were random(with 1 player from every tier)



wtf are YOU talking about? the winner and runner-up get to pick their tier 4 opponent, jjakji and Leenock got to pick, please get your facts right.


That's for NEXT round's group play. Get YOUR facts straight


The GSL champion and runner up pick their first opponent from Tier 4. The rest is random drawing. Ro16 will be standard group nomination system.

Childplay
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada263 Posts
December 30 2011 14:00 GMT
#516
wow... group a,b and c... GL idra and sen
SkullZ9
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium2048 Posts
December 30 2011 14:00 GMT
#517
The format is good like this, don't change this gom

I am serious if someone wonders ^^
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
December 30 2011 14:01 GMT
#518
ouch idra. ZvT against MVP and ZvZ against Nestea? good luck with that...
group B also pretty hard, leenock actually picked fin? seems really stupid considering the other choices he had..
Jamial
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark1289 Posts
December 30 2011 14:01 GMT
#519
This is so awesome. Jesus christ, all the groups look beastly.

What's with idrA's horribly bad luck in group draws? Ouch..
Flaf?
fcgog
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom876 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-30 14:07:32
December 30 2011 14:07 GMT
#520
wrong thread
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