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L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
December 29 2011 23:32 GMT
#1581
its friday 30th here TT
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
How2getMaster
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany124 Posts
December 29 2011 23:35 GMT
#1582
I totally agree that foreign players arent dedicated enough.
DiamondToss looking for a team :)
Nore
Profile Joined October 2010
New Zealand128 Posts
December 29 2011 23:36 GMT
#1583
On December 30 2011 08:32 L3g3nd_ wrote:
its friday 30th here TT


exactly! i'm rather pissed even thou in reality we have to wait just as long as everyone else
pStar
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
996 Posts
December 29 2011 23:41 GMT
#1584
What time are they releasing the name at?
LanTAs
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1091 Posts
December 29 2011 23:42 GMT
#1585
On December 30 2011 08:32 L3g3nd_ wrote:
its friday 30th here TT


still the 29th here on the west coast, just wait like 9 more hours or so for the announcement :D
ratzp0li
Profile Joined December 2011
United States340 Posts
December 29 2011 23:44 GMT
#1586
On December 30 2011 07:01 Angelbelow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2011 06:53 Ryrmidon wrote:
On December 30 2011 00:31 IdrA wrote:
On December 29 2011 23:40 Sphen5117 wrote:
On December 29 2011 23:32 integrity wrote:
well personally i like eg current roster a well balance of high caliber players(idra,huk,puma) mid teir (demuslim,machine,incontrol) and up incomers (axslav, strifeco, LZgamer)

i hope that they don't throw away their up incomers division to go around buying high caliber players. it would be one less opportunity for the NA up incomers



Be careful saying that here. A couple pages back, an incredibly informed, polite, reasonable, and intelligent individual said it's only worth it to teams like EG to buy Tournament-dominating players. Basically saying that the best move for an ESPORTS team is to adopt a philosophy that stifles ESPORTS.


Huurrr..

big teams are businesses. eg, and other high tier teams, cant pay bad players significant money while continuing to put out the salaries necessary to attract good players. good players are the ones who bring in viewership and thus sponsorships, to both the team and to tournaments. without those sponsorships ESPORTS ceases to exist. foreign sc2 isnt set up for a full on team house structure like korea is simply because of geography and foreign players' lack of dedication, so the expenses of allowing an upcoming player to focus only on practice arent worth it. you have to pay their entire cost of living and theres a pretty good chance you're never gonna make anything significant off them. most people dont end up being that good. in korea this is acceptable because you can just stick them in an existing team house for very low cost and kick them out when you realize they suck. the one player of every 10 who has some success in tournaments justifies this, and the 1 in every 100 who becomes a star makes the industry successful.
so foreign esports has to focus on the existing stars, or buy them from korea, and hope that low level non korean teams stumble upon a talented player and do enough to let him make it once in a while.

So why hasn't incontrol been kicked yet?


Man some posters really are dense.

IdrA already stated that EG does more for low level players than any other team. That includes providing players like Incontrol, and lesser known players like Axslav an attempt to train like the Koreans. People always talk about how EG buys their players but theyre one of first and few teams to actually give their players a house to train.

Second, if you think Incontrol isn't valuable to EG BEYOND his Sc2 results you are too young to understand business.


As a caster/streamer, maybe. As a player, fuck that.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
December 29 2011 23:59 GMT
#1587
On December 30 2011 08:36 Nore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2011 08:32 L3g3nd_ wrote:
its friday 30th here TT


exactly! i'm rather pissed even thou in reality we have to wait just as long as everyone else

we are a trustworthy nation, surely they could just tell us if we promise to keep it a secret
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
December 30 2011 00:04 GMT
#1588
Moonglade?
Disposition1989
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada270 Posts
December 30 2011 00:06 GMT
#1589
On December 30 2011 08:59 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2011 08:36 Nore wrote:
On December 30 2011 08:32 L3g3nd_ wrote:
its friday 30th here TT


exactly! i'm rather pissed even thou in reality we have to wait just as long as everyone else

we are a trustworthy nation, surely they could just tell us if we promise to keep it a secret


if canada knew, we'd tell you guys
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
December 30 2011 00:09 GMT
#1590
On December 30 2011 09:06 Disposition1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2011 08:59 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On December 30 2011 08:36 Nore wrote:
On December 30 2011 08:32 L3g3nd_ wrote:
its friday 30th here TT


exactly! i'm rather pissed even thou in reality we have to wait just as long as everyone else

we are a trustworthy nation, surely they could just tell us if we promise to keep it a secret


if canada knew, we'd tell you guys

im sure we can set up some kind of deal where we tell you and neither of us tells anyone.
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
llKenZyll
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States853 Posts
December 30 2011 00:09 GMT
#1591
On December 30 2011 08:36 Nore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2011 08:32 L3g3nd_ wrote:
its friday 30th here TT


exactly! i'm rather pissed even thou in reality we have to wait just as long as everyone else

Imagine that.
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/nd6nd/tang_in_his_natural_habitat/
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
December 30 2011 00:13 GMT
#1592
On December 30 2011 09:09 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2011 09:06 Disposition1989 wrote:
On December 30 2011 08:59 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On December 30 2011 08:36 Nore wrote:
On December 30 2011 08:32 L3g3nd_ wrote:
its friday 30th here TT


exactly! i'm rather pissed even thou in reality we have to wait just as long as everyone else

we are a trustworthy nation, surely they could just tell us if we promise to keep it a secret


if canada knew, we'd tell you guys

im sure we can set up some kind of deal where we tell you and neither of us tells anyone.
WTS secret 4000 barrels of Vespene Gas, pst.
#freeshauni
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
December 30 2011 00:15 GMT
#1593
On December 30 2011 08:44 ratzp0li wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2011 07:01 Angelbelow wrote:
On December 30 2011 06:53 Ryrmidon wrote:
On December 30 2011 00:31 IdrA wrote:
On December 29 2011 23:40 Sphen5117 wrote:
On December 29 2011 23:32 integrity wrote:
well personally i like eg current roster a well balance of high caliber players(idra,huk,puma) mid teir (demuslim,machine,incontrol) and up incomers (axslav, strifeco, LZgamer)

i hope that they don't throw away their up incomers division to go around buying high caliber players. it would be one less opportunity for the NA up incomers



Be careful saying that here. A couple pages back, an incredibly informed, polite, reasonable, and intelligent individual said it's only worth it to teams like EG to buy Tournament-dominating players. Basically saying that the best move for an ESPORTS team is to adopt a philosophy that stifles ESPORTS.


Huurrr..

big teams are businesses. eg, and other high tier teams, cant pay bad players significant money while continuing to put out the salaries necessary to attract good players. good players are the ones who bring in viewership and thus sponsorships, to both the team and to tournaments. without those sponsorships ESPORTS ceases to exist. foreign sc2 isnt set up for a full on team house structure like korea is simply because of geography and foreign players' lack of dedication, so the expenses of allowing an upcoming player to focus only on practice arent worth it. you have to pay their entire cost of living and theres a pretty good chance you're never gonna make anything significant off them. most people dont end up being that good. in korea this is acceptable because you can just stick them in an existing team house for very low cost and kick them out when you realize they suck. the one player of every 10 who has some success in tournaments justifies this, and the 1 in every 100 who becomes a star makes the industry successful.
so foreign esports has to focus on the existing stars, or buy them from korea, and hope that low level non korean teams stumble upon a talented player and do enough to let him make it once in a while.

So why hasn't incontrol been kicked yet?


Man some posters really are dense.

IdrA already stated that EG does more for low level players than any other team. That includes providing players like Incontrol, and lesser known players like Axslav an attempt to train like the Koreans. People always talk about how EG buys their players but theyre one of first and few teams to actually give their players a house to train.

Second, if you think Incontrol isn't valuable to EG BEYOND his Sc2 results you are too young to understand business.


As a caster/streamer, maybe. As a player, fuck that.


your ignorance hurts my head so bad from your post. To say "as a player, fuck that" just truly shows how dumb you are. If you know anything about ESports before you stumbled upon Sc2 you'd realize incontrol is one of very few foreigners who became very good at Sc1 and chose to choose the path of a professional gamer at the time. During that time if you told anyone you were a professional gamer in NA you were probably laughed at. Anyone with roughly his skill and commitment could become a top player. Most of the players that are become elite are hard working players. Raw talent will only get you so far. But clearly you must understand that since you are a pro player who committed 8-10 hours a day training in korea before coming to Starcraft 2 right? Pretty sure incontrol is going to korea soon to train for 8-10 hours a day soon too......... but I am sure you know how to be pro at starcraft and the large amount of time commitment it takes to be good at it sitting from behind your monitor. Oh wait.............
JD, need I say more? :D
Hardigan
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1297 Posts
December 30 2011 00:24 GMT
#1594
In a few hours they will announce the player. I think it's time we make a bet:
only 1 guess is allowed. If you guess the right player, you will get... uhm... +1 EG-point.
I say JYP
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
December 30 2011 00:26 GMT
#1595
On December 30 2011 09:24 Hardigan wrote:
In a few hours they will announce the player. I think it's time we make a bet:
only 1 guess is allowed. If you guess the right player, you will get... uhm... +1 EG-point.
I say JYP

cocoa
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
SkullZ9
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium2048 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-30 00:29:57
December 30 2011 00:29 GMT
#1596
I just realized Kas said he was planning to go to korea in 2012 so it could be a possibility but it is more likely a zerg player like moon or sen
My bet is on Moon
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
December 30 2011 00:29 GMT
#1597
On December 30 2011 09:29 SkullZ9 wrote:
I just realized Kas said he was planning to go to korea in 2012 so it could be a possibility but it is more likely a zerg player like moon or sen
It's more likely that someone like CatZ or drewbie joins EG.

Aka it won't happen ever.
#freeshauni
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
December 30 2011 00:30 GMT
#1598
1. JYP
2. Killer
3. Moon
4. Coca
5. Kas
6. Moonglade

My top six in order. If it's anyone else, I'll give credit to EG for being the first to actually do an announcement of an announcement that people didn't figure out in a day.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
SkullZ9
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium2048 Posts
December 30 2011 00:32 GMT
#1599
On December 30 2011 09:29 Elem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2011 09:29 SkullZ9 wrote:
I just realized Kas said he was planning to go to korea in 2012 so it could be a possibility but it is more likely a zerg player like moon or sen
It's more likely that someone like CatZ or drewbie joins EG.

Aka it won't happen ever.


Why ? Kas is much better than theese two players. But he isn't very well-known in the US so i don't think it's him
babybell
Profile Joined June 2011
776 Posts
December 30 2011 00:36 GMT
#1600
Ok my bet is on Anna Prosser becoming the new pro member of EG under the id EGProzac.
+ Show Spoiler +
You see, EG have spent too much time with SlayerS
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