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hampsters
Profile Joined June 2011
4 Posts
December 25 2011 05:43 GMT
#221
I would be glad to manage Kansas. I already run a community out of here. If anyone is looking to play for Kansas shoot me a pm.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
December 25 2011 05:47 GMT
#222
Some regions are really stacked T.T (i.e. California). Would be nice if North Carolina and South Carolina could combine to form a Carolinas team, as I know the good players around here and it'd be much better of a showing if that were done as opposed to either state standing alone.
CanucksJC
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1241 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-25 06:28:22
December 25 2011 06:26 GMT
#223
On December 25 2011 10:22 goswser wrote:
The team house rule needs to be amended or something. Only fielding 3 players isn't a handicap in the slightest in a bo7. The states with RGN and EG in them will dominate if these teams elect to participate, unless some change is made that disallows pro houses from competing.

I will try to be as transparent as possible when we made this decision.

The team houses obviously make this situation more complicated. I am very aware that some regions are weaker than another and some are obviously too stacked.

Let's say that BC was playing against Arizona, for comparison's sake. Arizona decides to field 3 EG players (PuMa, iNcontroL, Machine) and 4 other mid-high masters players. BC decides to field Stalife, Optikzero, Chance and 4 other GMs. I picked an extreme case in picking BC as an opponent, but at the same time, BC doesn't have a pro team house, and I would call this match even, if not favored towards BC.

Our goal was to somehow limit one pro team's overwhelming presence in a team, not to completely shut it down. Also, we wanted to respect that these players from the team houses are still a part of the local community as well. CSL has successfully bonded players from the same school and created rivalries between neighbouring schools, and we hope to achieve the same.

One change we can consider again is to change the number of 3 maximum players to 2 players, and increase this number back to 3 in the playoffs when the format becomes BO9.
UBC StarCraft Club is official @ UBC Vancouver campus! Your first eSport community on campus. Welcomes players of all levels at UBC. Follow us on facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/group.php?gid=155630424470014 or IRC @ irc.rizon.net #ubcsc
arcane1129
Profile Joined January 2011
United States270 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-25 06:37:01
December 25 2011 06:36 GMT
#224
I didn't want to read through every post to see if this was covered, but I think you should consider changing it to regions instead of states. For example, in the smash community it's split into New England, tri-state, Norcal, Socal, Pacific Northwest, South (Florida + neighboring states), MDVA, etc

Granted, there was no online for that game, so traveling was very important for tournies. However, pitting a state like New Hampshire vs California seems pretty one sided considering the potential talent pool, no?
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-25 07:36:49
December 25 2011 07:35 GMT
#225
so is anything even confirmed yet, such as how the league will be broken up (when i showed up it was by region but now it appears to be by state?) that and i still have no clue how to get in on this as a potential player TT

edit:from maryland if that makes a difference in the info i would need
CanucksJC
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1241 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-25 07:49:31
December 25 2011 07:49 GMT
#226
On December 25 2011 16:35 unit wrote:
so is anything even confirmed yet, such as how the league will be broken up (when i showed up it was by region but now it appears to be by state?) that and i still have no clue how to get in on this as a potential player TT

edit:from maryland if that makes a difference in the info i would need

It has always been State by State, some people were apparently confused by the random map of NA that I chose to display at the top.

I will release a list of confirmed regions with managers shortly after the holidays, and I can PM you the info of the Maryland manager for now.
UBC StarCraft Club is official @ UBC Vancouver campus! Your first eSport community on campus. Welcomes players of all levels at UBC. Follow us on facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/group.php?gid=155630424470014 or IRC @ irc.rizon.net #ubcsc
jsemmens
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States439 Posts
December 25 2011 09:23 GMT
#227
On December 25 2011 15:26 CanucksJC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2011 10:22 goswser wrote:
The team house rule needs to be amended or something. Only fielding 3 players isn't a handicap in the slightest in a bo7. The states with RGN and EG in them will dominate if these teams elect to participate, unless some change is made that disallows pro houses from competing.

I will try to be as transparent as possible when we made this decision.

The team houses obviously make this situation more complicated. I am very aware that some regions are weaker than another and some are obviously too stacked.

Let's say that BC was playing against Arizona, for comparison's sake. Arizona decides to field 3 EG players (PuMa, iNcontroL, Machine) and 4 other mid-high masters players. BC decides to field Stalife, Optikzero, Chance and 4 other GMs. I picked an extreme case in picking BC as an opponent, but at the same time, BC doesn't have a pro team house, and I would call this match even, if not favored towards BC.

Our goal was to somehow limit one pro team's overwhelming presence in a team, not to completely shut it down. Also, we wanted to respect that these players from the team houses are still a part of the local community as well. CSL has successfully bonded players from the same school and created rivalries between neighbouring schools, and we hope to achieve the same.

One change we can consider again is to change the number of 3 maximum players to 2 players, and increase this number back to 3 in the playoffs when the format becomes BO9.

I wouldn't worry about this too much. EG members rarely come to local LANs (not more than one at any given event, I think), and the team probably would not be very interested in investing time in the event unless you are planning on putting on significant prize money. For example, IPL wasn't even able to get them into the Team Arena Challenge tournament, and that was only a couple week commitment with a well known organization for a decent amount of prize money.
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Neoattitude
Profile Joined April 2010
Guam172 Posts
December 25 2011 09:56 GMT
#228
Sounds awesome! I'm wondering can Guam (a territory of USA) make a team and participate too?
ePLocust
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States587 Posts
December 25 2011 10:02 GMT
#229
On December 25 2011 14:01 chadissilent wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2011 10:22 goswser wrote:
The team house rule needs to be amended or something. Only fielding 3 players isn't a handicap in the slightest in a bo7. The states with RGN and EG in them will dominate if these teams elect to participate, unless some change is made that disallows pro houses from competing.

Possible amendments:
- You MUST have lived in your current state for 12 months otherwise you play for the state you come from.
OR
- 1 player from a Pro house is permitted to compete. The rest may compete for their home states.

This screws with college kids so idt it's such a good idea.
theBOOCH
Profile Joined November 2010
United States832 Posts
December 25 2011 10:40 GMT
#230
I just want to say that I think CanucksJC is doing a great job so far listening to and responding to all of our concerns. I trust that he and the people he's working with will make this a great tourny.

I do think that it should be considered that if a state or province cannot form a functional team (not necessarily a good team, I think that's too subjective- regions that can't organize the minimum number of fairly high-level players to be competitive) within some allotted period of time, players may be absorbed into an adjacent state/province that does have a functioning team (possibly including Puerto Rico, Guam, other territories that are municipalities or the U.S. or Canada). This would be a little simpler than just combining regions (as no new managers would need to be found, or new teams created). This could be double-checked for fairness by ensuring that no absorbed region plus the absorbing region out-populates California (the most populous single state/province by far). The combined region would then play under the name of the absorbing region to keep things easy and avoid having confusing proprietary regional names. The ultimate benefit of this would not be more teams (as would be the case if small regions combined to create new competitive regions), but slightly more even teams by representative population which could, at least in theory, result in somewhat more competitive play within the whole league. And it would have the huge benefit that any good player in the U.S. and Canada would at least have a chance to play.
If all you're offering is Dos Equis, I will stay thirsty thank you very much.
fenix404
Profile Joined May 2011
United States305 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-25 22:57:57
December 25 2011 22:56 GMT
#231
i don't know how many people here in southern louisiana would be the BEST, but i'm sure we could muster a few strong players. i for one am interested and will be spreading the word/idea around. hope this works, it is very awesome indeed.

there is a big group in LSU area, but i'm around NO. wouldn't mind helpin out though.
"think for yourself, question authority"
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3519 Posts
December 25 2011 23:16 GMT
#232
On December 25 2011 15:26 CanucksJC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2011 10:22 goswser wrote:
The team house rule needs to be amended or something. Only fielding 3 players isn't a handicap in the slightest in a bo7. The states with RGN and EG in them will dominate if these teams elect to participate, unless some change is made that disallows pro houses from competing.

I will try to be as transparent as possible when we made this decision.

The team houses obviously make this situation more complicated. I am very aware that some regions are weaker than another and some are obviously too stacked.

Let's say that BC was playing against Arizona, for comparison's sake. Arizona decides to field 3 EG players (PuMa, iNcontroL, Machine) and 4 other mid-high masters players. BC decides to field Stalife, Optikzero, Chance and 4 other GMs. I picked an extreme case in picking BC as an opponent, but at the same time, BC doesn't have a pro team house, and I would call this match even, if not favored towards BC.

Our goal was to somehow limit one pro team's overwhelming presence in a team, not to completely shut it down. Also, we wanted to respect that these players from the team houses are still a part of the local community as well. CSL has successfully bonded players from the same school and created rivalries between neighbouring schools, and we hope to achieve the same.

One change we can consider again is to change the number of 3 maximum players to 2 players, and increase this number back to 3 in the playoffs when the format becomes BO9.

With that change I think it would be much more fair, I doubt EG will field 3 players every week anyways, if any team were to do that it would probably be RGN.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
neo_sporin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States516 Posts
December 25 2011 23:26 GMT
#233
On December 25 2011 14:47 EtherealDeath wrote:
Some regions are really stacked T.T (i.e. California). Would be nice if North Carolina and South Carolina could combine to form a Carolinas team, as I know the good players around here and it'd be much better of a showing if that were done as opposed to either state standing alone.


NC fighting!...and by fighting i mean getting rocked.
Oreo7
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1647 Posts
December 25 2011 23:48 GMT
#234
If anyone is setting anything up for massachusetts, hit me up
Stork HerO and Protoss everywhere - redfive on bnet
IntoTheBush
Profile Joined July 2010
United States552 Posts
December 25 2011 23:56 GMT
#235
Kentucky is still searching for possible players! Right now there are a handful, but we are looking for more. PM me if you're in KY, and interested!
dhe95
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1213 Posts
December 25 2011 23:59 GMT
#236
if anyone wants to add another member to the probably extremely large team of california, then pm me :D
CanucksJC
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1241 Posts
December 26 2011 00:54 GMT
#237
I'm still looking for a manager from California and Arizona! I know there has been interest, but if you know anyone that would take on this role please let me/them know :D
UBC StarCraft Club is official @ UBC Vancouver campus! Your first eSport community on campus. Welcomes players of all levels at UBC. Follow us on facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/group.php?gid=155630424470014 or IRC @ irc.rizon.net #ubcsc
jsemmens
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States439 Posts
December 26 2011 01:10 GMT
#238
I think Philibird would be a good choice for Arizona. He's been to every AZ LAN that there's been, and he's been keeping up with the facebook group and website. If there is an AZ team, I will help out with it, but I don't know the players or the scene well enough to be a manager. Maybe I can be a cheerleader...
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Resonance
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada113 Posts
December 26 2011 08:01 GMT
#239
i'm in favor of allowing a roster of up to 15 people?? and having the bo7.
i just think that way there can be some variety in the people that play each week...
I play protoss because it's imbalanced. :D
Senros
Profile Joined May 2011
54 Posts
December 26 2011 08:18 GMT
#240
I like this idea! I would definitely be interested in seeing it happen!
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