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On December 20 2011 15:24 dreamsmasher wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 15:22 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 20 2011 15:09 dreamsmasher wrote:On December 20 2011 14:38 taLbuk wrote:On December 20 2011 13:46 dreamsmasher wrote:
state of the game was the only show i watched anyways.
modern warfare is a joke of a competitive game. i mean i guess you can play checkers competitively, but you get the point.
seems like people watched fuck slasher...never watched it, since it had kind of a retarded name and i dont even know who slasher is? why does his opinion even matter. with state of the game you know who's on it, that they know what they're talking about, and its pretty fucking funny. do you even read what you type? half of what your saying has no relevance at all, also slasher is a journalist who has been in esports for 10+ years of course sotg isn't going anywhere don't know why people would even imagine it does umm well considering one of the shows that was canceled was called the WARFARE WEEKLY, ya i think it does kind of have relevance especialy since mlg hosts CoD as a competitive game. and i care that slasher is a journalist (even if its in esports of 10 years)? why does his experience matter if he doesn't really know shit about the game. to me he's just some sloppily dressed fucker who i've never seen before offer some rather useless opinions about starcraft. Can you be any more ignorant? Fuck slasher was a good show not because of slashers opinions, but because each day he was able to get big names on the show relating to current topics and issues. And it wasnt just sc2, it was all of esports in one place. Slasher never claimed to be an expert in the games, but always got some experts and pros in daily. It was a great show and i will miss it. Slasher has worked harder in esports than most people. Just because you dont know this doesnt mean you get to be a prick. in other words he could be replaced by someone else who actually knows what theyr'e talking about, or he could be replaced by several shows with people who actually know what they're talking about interviewing the same relevant people.
You dont get it. You shouldnt be looking to Slasher for analysis on the games. You look to Slasher for info on news in the scene. Kobe isnt showing you highlights on espn. Kobe isnt doing interviews with Lebron. People like Slasher do that.
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well atleast JP is not going anywhere. fuck slasher was cool but !
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On December 20 2011 15:31 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 15:24 dreamsmasher wrote:On December 20 2011 15:22 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 20 2011 15:09 dreamsmasher wrote:On December 20 2011 14:38 taLbuk wrote:On December 20 2011 13:46 dreamsmasher wrote:
state of the game was the only show i watched anyways.
modern warfare is a joke of a competitive game. i mean i guess you can play checkers competitively, but you get the point.
seems like people watched fuck slasher...never watched it, since it had kind of a retarded name and i dont even know who slasher is? why does his opinion even matter. with state of the game you know who's on it, that they know what they're talking about, and its pretty fucking funny. do you even read what you type? half of what your saying has no relevance at all, also slasher is a journalist who has been in esports for 10+ years of course sotg isn't going anywhere don't know why people would even imagine it does umm well considering one of the shows that was canceled was called the WARFARE WEEKLY, ya i think it does kind of have relevance especialy since mlg hosts CoD as a competitive game. and i care that slasher is a journalist (even if its in esports of 10 years)? why does his experience matter if he doesn't really know shit about the game. to me he's just some sloppily dressed fucker who i've never seen before offer some rather useless opinions about starcraft. Can you be any more ignorant? Fuck slasher was a good show not because of slashers opinions, but because each day he was able to get big names on the show relating to current topics and issues. And it wasnt just sc2, it was all of esports in one place. Slasher never claimed to be an expert in the games, but always got some experts and pros in daily. It was a great show and i will miss it. Slasher has worked harder in esports than most people. Just because you dont know this doesnt mean you get to be a prick. in other words he could be replaced by someone else who actually knows what theyr'e talking about, or he could be replaced by several shows with people who actually know what they're talking about interviewing the same relevant people. You dont get it. You shouldnt be looking to Slasher for analysis on the games. You look to Slasher for info on news in the scene. Kobe isnt showing you highlights on espn. Kobe isnt doing interviews with Lebron. People like Slasher do that.
exactly. kobe isnt going to criticize other players. kobe isnt going to criticize the league. players and people like day 9 cannot be used for any kind of honest analysis.
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yeah, dude, STOG is titilating, fer sure.
no way they'd drop that shit--it's the only show that ppl actually watch.
JP Entertaining!!!
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On December 20 2011 15:30 Dakure wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 15:01 lichter wrote:On December 20 2011 14:40 Skwid1g wrote:On December 20 2011 13:46 dreamsmasher wrote:
state of the game was the only show i watched anyways.
modern warfare is a joke of a competitive game. i mean i guess you can play checkers competitively, but you get the point.
seems like people watched fuck slasher...never watched it, since it had kind of a retarded name and i dont even know who slasher is? why does his opinion even matter. with state of the game you know who's on it, that they know what they're talking about, and its pretty fucking funny. ... I can't even tell if you're serious. Slasher has been involved with E-sports for longer than almost anyone else. I'm not a fan of him or his show, but his opinion definitely carries some weight. His opinions about esports in general are relevant, of course, but his opinions on SC2 carry even less weight than Tyler's "I have nothing more to add to that" XD Something about Fuck Slasher, though, is that it had quite a few guests (SC2 pros) come on and talk. State of the Game is usually the same people talking about other events whereas Fuck Slasher had the people involved in the events. I mean you guys can hate his foul mouth all you want (and yeah he can be a bit awkward) but he brought some pretty nice content. Hell, he even kinda got me interested in the other MLG games and fightan Edit: While he may or may not have any idea what he is talking about, he brought on people who definitely did (TLs Waxangel for GSL predictions etc, big name people for FPS games, prominent members of MOBA and fightan community even). I mean come on, this work must count for something.
sotg has had plenty of pros on it...even if the usual cast is more of a staple than other pros, they usually offer a pretty good balance of opinions.
i just dont really respect opinions given by people who dont know what they're talking about, kind of like how i think science journalists are a bit of a joke.
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On December 20 2011 15:34 Duravi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 15:31 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 20 2011 15:24 dreamsmasher wrote:On December 20 2011 15:22 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 20 2011 15:09 dreamsmasher wrote:On December 20 2011 14:38 taLbuk wrote:On December 20 2011 13:46 dreamsmasher wrote:
state of the game was the only show i watched anyways.
modern warfare is a joke of a competitive game. i mean i guess you can play checkers competitively, but you get the point.
seems like people watched fuck slasher...never watched it, since it had kind of a retarded name and i dont even know who slasher is? why does his opinion even matter. with state of the game you know who's on it, that they know what they're talking about, and its pretty fucking funny. do you even read what you type? half of what your saying has no relevance at all, also slasher is a journalist who has been in esports for 10+ years of course sotg isn't going anywhere don't know why people would even imagine it does umm well considering one of the shows that was canceled was called the WARFARE WEEKLY, ya i think it does kind of have relevance especialy since mlg hosts CoD as a competitive game. and i care that slasher is a journalist (even if its in esports of 10 years)? why does his experience matter if he doesn't really know shit about the game. to me he's just some sloppily dressed fucker who i've never seen before offer some rather useless opinions about starcraft. Can you be any more ignorant? Fuck slasher was a good show not because of slashers opinions, but because each day he was able to get big names on the show relating to current topics and issues. And it wasnt just sc2, it was all of esports in one place. Slasher never claimed to be an expert in the games, but always got some experts and pros in daily. It was a great show and i will miss it. Slasher has worked harder in esports than most people. Just because you dont know this doesnt mean you get to be a prick. in other words he could be replaced by someone else who actually knows what theyr'e talking about, or he could be replaced by several shows with people who actually know what they're talking about interviewing the same relevant people. You dont get it. You shouldnt be looking to Slasher for analysis on the games. You look to Slasher for info on news in the scene. Kobe isnt showing you highlights on espn. Kobe isnt doing interviews with Lebron. People like Slasher do that. exactly. kobe isnt going to criticize other players. kobe isnt going to criticize the league. players and people like day 9 cannot be used for any kind of honest analysis.
why not. there is a pretty good balance of opinion on sotg tbh. there is quite a bit of criticism of MLG on sotg.
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On December 20 2011 15:43 dreamsmasher wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 15:34 Duravi wrote:On December 20 2011 15:31 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 20 2011 15:24 dreamsmasher wrote:On December 20 2011 15:22 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 20 2011 15:09 dreamsmasher wrote:On December 20 2011 14:38 taLbuk wrote:On December 20 2011 13:46 dreamsmasher wrote:
state of the game was the only show i watched anyways.
modern warfare is a joke of a competitive game. i mean i guess you can play checkers competitively, but you get the point.
seems like people watched fuck slasher...never watched it, since it had kind of a retarded name and i dont even know who slasher is? why does his opinion even matter. with state of the game you know who's on it, that they know what they're talking about, and its pretty fucking funny. do you even read what you type? half of what your saying has no relevance at all, also slasher is a journalist who has been in esports for 10+ years of course sotg isn't going anywhere don't know why people would even imagine it does umm well considering one of the shows that was canceled was called the WARFARE WEEKLY, ya i think it does kind of have relevance especialy since mlg hosts CoD as a competitive game. and i care that slasher is a journalist (even if its in esports of 10 years)? why does his experience matter if he doesn't really know shit about the game. to me he's just some sloppily dressed fucker who i've never seen before offer some rather useless opinions about starcraft. Can you be any more ignorant? Fuck slasher was a good show not because of slashers opinions, but because each day he was able to get big names on the show relating to current topics and issues. And it wasnt just sc2, it was all of esports in one place. Slasher never claimed to be an expert in the games, but always got some experts and pros in daily. It was a great show and i will miss it. Slasher has worked harder in esports than most people. Just because you dont know this doesnt mean you get to be a prick. in other words he could be replaced by someone else who actually knows what theyr'e talking about, or he could be replaced by several shows with people who actually know what they're talking about interviewing the same relevant people. You dont get it. You shouldnt be looking to Slasher for analysis on the games. You look to Slasher for info on news in the scene. Kobe isnt showing you highlights on espn. Kobe isnt doing interviews with Lebron. People like Slasher do that. exactly. kobe isnt going to criticize other players. kobe isnt going to criticize the league. players and people like day 9 cannot be used for any kind of honest analysis. why not. there is a pretty good balance of opinion on sotg tbh.
Why are you comparing sotg to fuck slasher? They arent geared toward the same thing. Fuck slasher is more news focused while sotg is more game focused.
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On December 20 2011 15:42 dreamsmasher wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 15:30 Dakure wrote:On December 20 2011 15:01 lichter wrote:On December 20 2011 14:40 Skwid1g wrote:On December 20 2011 13:46 dreamsmasher wrote:
state of the game was the only show i watched anyways.
modern warfare is a joke of a competitive game. i mean i guess you can play checkers competitively, but you get the point.
seems like people watched fuck slasher...never watched it, since it had kind of a retarded name and i dont even know who slasher is? why does his opinion even matter. with state of the game you know who's on it, that they know what they're talking about, and its pretty fucking funny. ... I can't even tell if you're serious. Slasher has been involved with E-sports for longer than almost anyone else. I'm not a fan of him or his show, but his opinion definitely carries some weight. His opinions about esports in general are relevant, of course, but his opinions on SC2 carry even less weight than Tyler's "I have nothing more to add to that" XD Something about Fuck Slasher, though, is that it had quite a few guests (SC2 pros) come on and talk. State of the Game is usually the same people talking about other events whereas Fuck Slasher had the people involved in the events. I mean you guys can hate his foul mouth all you want (and yeah he can be a bit awkward) but he brought some pretty nice content. Hell, he even kinda got me interested in the other MLG games and fightan Edit: While he may or may not have any idea what he is talking about, he brought on people who definitely did (TLs Waxangel for GSL predictions etc, big name people for FPS games, prominent members of MOBA and fightan community even). I mean come on, this work must count for something. sotg has had plenty of pros on it...even if the usual cast is more of a staple than other pros, they usually offer a pretty good balance of opinions. i just dont really respect opinions given by people who dont know what they're talking about, kind of like how i think science journalists are a bit of a joke.
Supposing SotG talked about dignitasbling's performance at WCG, this is the difference between that show and fuck slasher:
SotG: Day9/JP/Tyler/InControl/Artosis/Someone else talking about his performance
Fuck Slasher: DignitasBling talking about his performance.
(http://tv.majorleaguegaming.com/videos/80276-slasher-12-13-11-bling-interview)
That's what I meant about Slasher bringing people on his show that were actually involved in the events that are being talked about. And I really enjoy that aspect of the show--it's the reason I continued watching after I was first introduced to it. Slasher isn't the only person that can do this, and to me it's fine if someone else does this, so long as this type of content is produced.
Do you see the difference in the types of shows? Slasher isn't really offering his own opinions so much as bringing on relevant names. When Slasher does talk without a guest, it's usually objective news. And when he does put in his opinion, there's often some banter with a co-host, and more recently open phone lines (Skype calls).
In particular, I'm defending the show is about.
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On December 20 2011 15:51 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 15:43 dreamsmasher wrote:On December 20 2011 15:34 Duravi wrote:On December 20 2011 15:31 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 20 2011 15:24 dreamsmasher wrote:On December 20 2011 15:22 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 20 2011 15:09 dreamsmasher wrote:On December 20 2011 14:38 taLbuk wrote:On December 20 2011 13:46 dreamsmasher wrote:
state of the game was the only show i watched anyways.
modern warfare is a joke of a competitive game. i mean i guess you can play checkers competitively, but you get the point.
seems like people watched fuck slasher...never watched it, since it had kind of a retarded name and i dont even know who slasher is? why does his opinion even matter. with state of the game you know who's on it, that they know what they're talking about, and its pretty fucking funny. do you even read what you type? half of what your saying has no relevance at all, also slasher is a journalist who has been in esports for 10+ years of course sotg isn't going anywhere don't know why people would even imagine it does umm well considering one of the shows that was canceled was called the WARFARE WEEKLY, ya i think it does kind of have relevance especialy since mlg hosts CoD as a competitive game. and i care that slasher is a journalist (even if its in esports of 10 years)? why does his experience matter if he doesn't really know shit about the game. to me he's just some sloppily dressed fucker who i've never seen before offer some rather useless opinions about starcraft. Can you be any more ignorant? Fuck slasher was a good show not because of slashers opinions, but because each day he was able to get big names on the show relating to current topics and issues. And it wasnt just sc2, it was all of esports in one place. Slasher never claimed to be an expert in the games, but always got some experts and pros in daily. It was a great show and i will miss it. Slasher has worked harder in esports than most people. Just because you dont know this doesnt mean you get to be a prick. in other words he could be replaced by someone else who actually knows what theyr'e talking about, or he could be replaced by several shows with people who actually know what they're talking about interviewing the same relevant people. You dont get it. You shouldnt be looking to Slasher for analysis on the games. You look to Slasher for info on news in the scene. Kobe isnt showing you highlights on espn. Kobe isnt doing interviews with Lebron. People like Slasher do that. exactly. kobe isnt going to criticize other players. kobe isnt going to criticize the league. players and people like day 9 cannot be used for any kind of honest analysis. why not. there is a pretty good balance of opinion on sotg tbh. Why are you comparing sotg to fuck slasher? They arent geared toward the same thing. Fuck slasher is more news focused while sotg is more game focused.
SotG doesnt discuss the game anymore. Where have you been? They cover the news and upcoming tournaments. The closest thing that they ever get to discussing the game is Brood War.
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On December 20 2011 15:43 dreamsmasher wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 15:34 Duravi wrote:On December 20 2011 15:31 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 20 2011 15:24 dreamsmasher wrote:On December 20 2011 15:22 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 20 2011 15:09 dreamsmasher wrote:On December 20 2011 14:38 taLbuk wrote:On December 20 2011 13:46 dreamsmasher wrote:
state of the game was the only show i watched anyways.
modern warfare is a joke of a competitive game. i mean i guess you can play checkers competitively, but you get the point.
seems like people watched fuck slasher...never watched it, since it had kind of a retarded name and i dont even know who slasher is? why does his opinion even matter. with state of the game you know who's on it, that they know what they're talking about, and its pretty fucking funny. do you even read what you type? half of what your saying has no relevance at all, also slasher is a journalist who has been in esports for 10+ years of course sotg isn't going anywhere don't know why people would even imagine it does umm well considering one of the shows that was canceled was called the WARFARE WEEKLY, ya i think it does kind of have relevance especialy since mlg hosts CoD as a competitive game. and i care that slasher is a journalist (even if its in esports of 10 years)? why does his experience matter if he doesn't really know shit about the game. to me he's just some sloppily dressed fucker who i've never seen before offer some rather useless opinions about starcraft. Can you be any more ignorant? Fuck slasher was a good show not because of slashers opinions, but because each day he was able to get big names on the show relating to current topics and issues. And it wasnt just sc2, it was all of esports in one place. Slasher never claimed to be an expert in the games, but always got some experts and pros in daily. It was a great show and i will miss it. Slasher has worked harder in esports than most people. Just because you dont know this doesnt mean you get to be a prick. in other words he could be replaced by someone else who actually knows what theyr'e talking about, or he could be replaced by several shows with people who actually know what they're talking about interviewing the same relevant people. You dont get it. You shouldnt be looking to Slasher for analysis on the games. You look to Slasher for info on news in the scene. Kobe isnt showing you highlights on espn. Kobe isnt doing interviews with Lebron. People like Slasher do that. exactly. kobe isnt going to criticize other players. kobe isnt going to criticize the league. players and people like day 9 cannot be used for any kind of honest analysis. why not. there is a pretty good balance of opinion on sotg tbh. there is quite a bit of criticism of MLG on sotg.
Sotg is very entertaining but they couldn't even criticize a small new tournament organizer who defrauded people out of thousands of dollars and criticized the community for overreacting instead. They agreed independent journalism is needed because they aren't going to have any harsh questions or opinions on people they work with like Gus and shouldn't be expected to.
It is also mostly and sometimes only protoss players.
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On December 20 2011 15:51 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 15:43 dreamsmasher wrote:On December 20 2011 15:34 Duravi wrote:On December 20 2011 15:31 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 20 2011 15:24 dreamsmasher wrote:On December 20 2011 15:22 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 20 2011 15:09 dreamsmasher wrote:On December 20 2011 14:38 taLbuk wrote:On December 20 2011 13:46 dreamsmasher wrote:
state of the game was the only show i watched anyways.
modern warfare is a joke of a competitive game. i mean i guess you can play checkers competitively, but you get the point.
seems like people watched fuck slasher...never watched it, since it had kind of a retarded name and i dont even know who slasher is? why does his opinion even matter. with state of the game you know who's on it, that they know what they're talking about, and its pretty fucking funny. do you even read what you type? half of what your saying has no relevance at all, also slasher is a journalist who has been in esports for 10+ years of course sotg isn't going anywhere don't know why people would even imagine it does umm well considering one of the shows that was canceled was called the WARFARE WEEKLY, ya i think it does kind of have relevance especialy since mlg hosts CoD as a competitive game. and i care that slasher is a journalist (even if its in esports of 10 years)? why does his experience matter if he doesn't really know shit about the game. to me he's just some sloppily dressed fucker who i've never seen before offer some rather useless opinions about starcraft. Can you be any more ignorant? Fuck slasher was a good show not because of slashers opinions, but because each day he was able to get big names on the show relating to current topics and issues. And it wasnt just sc2, it was all of esports in one place. Slasher never claimed to be an expert in the games, but always got some experts and pros in daily. It was a great show and i will miss it. Slasher has worked harder in esports than most people. Just because you dont know this doesnt mean you get to be a prick. in other words he could be replaced by someone else who actually knows what theyr'e talking about, or he could be replaced by several shows with people who actually know what they're talking about interviewing the same relevant people. You dont get it. You shouldnt be looking to Slasher for analysis on the games. You look to Slasher for info on news in the scene. Kobe isnt showing you highlights on espn. Kobe isnt doing interviews with Lebron. People like Slasher do that. exactly. kobe isnt going to criticize other players. kobe isnt going to criticize the league. players and people like day 9 cannot be used for any kind of honest analysis. why not. there is a pretty good balance of opinion on sotg tbh. Why are you comparing sotg to fuck slasher? They arent geared toward the same thing. Fuck slasher is more news focused while sotg is more game focused.
yes that happens when you read posts out of context, people were stating about the 'objectivity' of sotg, which i countered with the fact that slasher doesn't actually know anything meaning his role can be fulfilled by any multitutde of people (in other words he's pretty replaceable.)
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On December 20 2011 15:59 Dakure wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 15:42 dreamsmasher wrote:On December 20 2011 15:30 Dakure wrote:On December 20 2011 15:01 lichter wrote:On December 20 2011 14:40 Skwid1g wrote:On December 20 2011 13:46 dreamsmasher wrote:
state of the game was the only show i watched anyways.
modern warfare is a joke of a competitive game. i mean i guess you can play checkers competitively, but you get the point.
seems like people watched fuck slasher...never watched it, since it had kind of a retarded name and i dont even know who slasher is? why does his opinion even matter. with state of the game you know who's on it, that they know what they're talking about, and its pretty fucking funny. ... I can't even tell if you're serious. Slasher has been involved with E-sports for longer than almost anyone else. I'm not a fan of him or his show, but his opinion definitely carries some weight. His opinions about esports in general are relevant, of course, but his opinions on SC2 carry even less weight than Tyler's "I have nothing more to add to that" XD Something about Fuck Slasher, though, is that it had quite a few guests (SC2 pros) come on and talk. State of the Game is usually the same people talking about other events whereas Fuck Slasher had the people involved in the events. I mean you guys can hate his foul mouth all you want (and yeah he can be a bit awkward) but he brought some pretty nice content. Hell, he even kinda got me interested in the other MLG games and fightan Edit: While he may or may not have any idea what he is talking about, he brought on people who definitely did (TLs Waxangel for GSL predictions etc, big name people for FPS games, prominent members of MOBA and fightan community even). I mean come on, this work must count for something. sotg has had plenty of pros on it...even if the usual cast is more of a staple than other pros, they usually offer a pretty good balance of opinions. i just dont really respect opinions given by people who dont know what they're talking about, kind of like how i think science journalists are a bit of a joke. Supposing SotG talked about dignitasbling's performance at WCG, this is the difference between that show and fuck slasher: SotG: Day9/JP/Tyler/InControl/Artosis/Someone else talking about his performance Fuck Slasher: DignitasBling talking about his performance. (http://tv.majorleaguegaming.com/videos/80276-slasher-12-13-11-bling-interview) That's what I meant about Slasher bringing people on his show that were actually involved in the events that are being talked about. And I really enjoy that aspect of the show--it's the reason I continued watching after I was first introduced to it. Slasher isn't the only person that can do this, and to me it's fine if someone else does this, so long as this type of content is produced. Do you see the difference in the types of shows? Slasher isn't really offering his own opinions so much as bringing on relevant names. When Slasher does talk without a guest, it's usually objective news. And when he does put in his opinion, there's often some banter with a co-host, and more recently open phone lines (Skype calls). In particular, I'm defending the show is about.
you didnt link the sotg where they talk about it. i watched the slasher interview and honestly i fail to see your point. slahser asks the same fucking questions that any journalist would ask. he sounds just like some random asking question about sc2.
" oh how did you feel about this match."
"how did you know you were gonna do good'
'what did you do in seoul how did you feel about'
'how do you feel playing aginst MVP, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING herp a derp'.
his role could be fulfilled by any journalist whether or not they have been 'involved in esports for 10 years' as if that means anything at all.
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On December 20 2011 16:01 coolcor wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 15:43 dreamsmasher wrote:On December 20 2011 15:34 Duravi wrote:On December 20 2011 15:31 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 20 2011 15:24 dreamsmasher wrote:On December 20 2011 15:22 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 20 2011 15:09 dreamsmasher wrote:On December 20 2011 14:38 taLbuk wrote:On December 20 2011 13:46 dreamsmasher wrote:
state of the game was the only show i watched anyways.
modern warfare is a joke of a competitive game. i mean i guess you can play checkers competitively, but you get the point.
seems like people watched fuck slasher...never watched it, since it had kind of a retarded name and i dont even know who slasher is? why does his opinion even matter. with state of the game you know who's on it, that they know what they're talking about, and its pretty fucking funny. do you even read what you type? half of what your saying has no relevance at all, also slasher is a journalist who has been in esports for 10+ years of course sotg isn't going anywhere don't know why people would even imagine it does umm well considering one of the shows that was canceled was called the WARFARE WEEKLY, ya i think it does kind of have relevance especialy since mlg hosts CoD as a competitive game. and i care that slasher is a journalist (even if its in esports of 10 years)? why does his experience matter if he doesn't really know shit about the game. to me he's just some sloppily dressed fucker who i've never seen before offer some rather useless opinions about starcraft. Can you be any more ignorant? Fuck slasher was a good show not because of slashers opinions, but because each day he was able to get big names on the show relating to current topics and issues. And it wasnt just sc2, it was all of esports in one place. Slasher never claimed to be an expert in the games, but always got some experts and pros in daily. It was a great show and i will miss it. Slasher has worked harder in esports than most people. Just because you dont know this doesnt mean you get to be a prick. in other words he could be replaced by someone else who actually knows what theyr'e talking about, or he could be replaced by several shows with people who actually know what they're talking about interviewing the same relevant people. You dont get it. You shouldnt be looking to Slasher for analysis on the games. You look to Slasher for info on news in the scene. Kobe isnt showing you highlights on espn. Kobe isnt doing interviews with Lebron. People like Slasher do that. exactly. kobe isnt going to criticize other players. kobe isnt going to criticize the league. players and people like day 9 cannot be used for any kind of honest analysis. why not. there is a pretty good balance of opinion on sotg tbh. there is quite a bit of criticism of MLG on sotg. Sotg is very entertaining but they couldn't even criticize a small new tournament organizer who defrauded people out of thousands of dollars and criticized the community for overreacting instead. They agreed independent journalism is needed because they aren't going to have any harsh questions or opinions on people they work with like Gus and shouldn't be expected to. It is also mostly and sometimes only protoss players.
? day 9 plays random, artosis played zerg as well. if you're referencing PPSL the only questions that were fielded was direct as artosis who was unaware of the drama, because he was treated well. that seemed like a pretty honest opinion to me, why would you SPECULATE about something you don't know.
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On December 20 2011 16:00 Spicy_Curry wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 15:51 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 20 2011 15:43 dreamsmasher wrote:On December 20 2011 15:34 Duravi wrote:On December 20 2011 15:31 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 20 2011 15:24 dreamsmasher wrote:On December 20 2011 15:22 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 20 2011 15:09 dreamsmasher wrote:On December 20 2011 14:38 taLbuk wrote:On December 20 2011 13:46 dreamsmasher wrote:
state of the game was the only show i watched anyways.
modern warfare is a joke of a competitive game. i mean i guess you can play checkers competitively, but you get the point.
seems like people watched fuck slasher...never watched it, since it had kind of a retarded name and i dont even know who slasher is? why does his opinion even matter. with state of the game you know who's on it, that they know what they're talking about, and its pretty fucking funny. do you even read what you type? half of what your saying has no relevance at all, also slasher is a journalist who has been in esports for 10+ years of course sotg isn't going anywhere don't know why people would even imagine it does umm well considering one of the shows that was canceled was called the WARFARE WEEKLY, ya i think it does kind of have relevance especialy since mlg hosts CoD as a competitive game. and i care that slasher is a journalist (even if its in esports of 10 years)? why does his experience matter if he doesn't really know shit about the game. to me he's just some sloppily dressed fucker who i've never seen before offer some rather useless opinions about starcraft. Can you be any more ignorant? Fuck slasher was a good show not because of slashers opinions, but because each day he was able to get big names on the show relating to current topics and issues. And it wasnt just sc2, it was all of esports in one place. Slasher never claimed to be an expert in the games, but always got some experts and pros in daily. It was a great show and i will miss it. Slasher has worked harder in esports than most people. Just because you dont know this doesnt mean you get to be a prick. in other words he could be replaced by someone else who actually knows what theyr'e talking about, or he could be replaced by several shows with people who actually know what they're talking about interviewing the same relevant people. You dont get it. You shouldnt be looking to Slasher for analysis on the games. You look to Slasher for info on news in the scene. Kobe isnt showing you highlights on espn. Kobe isnt doing interviews with Lebron. People like Slasher do that. exactly. kobe isnt going to criticize other players. kobe isnt going to criticize the league. players and people like day 9 cannot be used for any kind of honest analysis. why not. there is a pretty good balance of opinion on sotg tbh. Why are you comparing sotg to fuck slasher? They arent geared toward the same thing. Fuck slasher is more news focused while sotg is more game focused. SotG doesnt discuss the game anymore. Where have you been? They cover the news and upcoming tournaments. The closest thing that they ever get to discussing the game is Brood War.
I said game, not game play. They talk tournaments and thats pretty much it. They talk news when its a huge story, but thats it. Fuck slasher and sotg are very different shows.
And sure plenty of people can do it, but they dont and they dont have the appeal of slasher. Like it or not, he is a polarizing character that people like to watch. And he actually comes at it from a journalistic standpoint, something that is badly needed in the community. Personally i would love to see slasher go indie like chobopeon so his hands arent tied at all, but i understand that doesnt pay the bills like MLG does.
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On December 20 2011 15:30 Dakure wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 15:01 lichter wrote:On December 20 2011 14:40 Skwid1g wrote:On December 20 2011 13:46 dreamsmasher wrote:
state of the game was the only show i watched anyways.
modern warfare is a joke of a competitive game. i mean i guess you can play checkers competitively, but you get the point.
seems like people watched fuck slasher...never watched it, since it had kind of a retarded name and i dont even know who slasher is? why does his opinion even matter. with state of the game you know who's on it, that they know what they're talking about, and its pretty fucking funny. ... I can't even tell if you're serious. Slasher has been involved with E-sports for longer than almost anyone else. I'm not a fan of him or his show, but his opinion definitely carries some weight. His opinions about esports in general are relevant, of course, but his opinions on SC2 carry even less weight than Tyler's "I have nothing more to add to that" XD Something about Fuck Slasher, though, is that it had quite a few guests (SC2 pros) come on and talk. State of the Game is usually the same people talking about other events whereas Fuck Slasher had the people involved in the events. I mean you guys can hate his foul mouth all you want (and yeah he can be a bit awkward) but he brought some pretty nice content. Hell, he even kinda got me interested in the other MLG games and fightan Edit: While he may or may not have any idea what he is talking about, he brought on people who definitely did (TLs Waxangel for GSL predictions etc, big name people for FPS games, prominent members of MOBA and fightan community even). I mean come on, this work must count for something.
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On December 20 2011 16:14 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 16:00 Spicy_Curry wrote:On December 20 2011 15:51 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 20 2011 15:43 dreamsmasher wrote:On December 20 2011 15:34 Duravi wrote:On December 20 2011 15:31 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 20 2011 15:24 dreamsmasher wrote:On December 20 2011 15:22 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 20 2011 15:09 dreamsmasher wrote:On December 20 2011 14:38 taLbuk wrote:
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do you even read what you type? half of what your saying has no relevance at all, also slasher is a journalist who has been in esports for 10+ years
of course sotg isn't going anywhere don't know why people would even imagine it does umm well considering one of the shows that was canceled was called the WARFARE WEEKLY, ya i think it does kind of have relevance especialy since mlg hosts CoD as a competitive game. and i care that slasher is a journalist (even if its in esports of 10 years)? why does his experience matter if he doesn't really know shit about the game. to me he's just some sloppily dressed fucker who i've never seen before offer some rather useless opinions about starcraft. Can you be any more ignorant? Fuck slasher was a good show not because of slashers opinions, but because each day he was able to get big names on the show relating to current topics and issues. And it wasnt just sc2, it was all of esports in one place. Slasher never claimed to be an expert in the games, but always got some experts and pros in daily. It was a great show and i will miss it. Slasher has worked harder in esports than most people. Just because you dont know this doesnt mean you get to be a prick. in other words he could be replaced by someone else who actually knows what theyr'e talking about, or he could be replaced by several shows with people who actually know what they're talking about interviewing the same relevant people. You dont get it. You shouldnt be looking to Slasher for analysis on the games. You look to Slasher for info on news in the scene. Kobe isnt showing you highlights on espn. Kobe isnt doing interviews with Lebron. People like Slasher do that. exactly. kobe isnt going to criticize other players. kobe isnt going to criticize the league. players and people like day 9 cannot be used for any kind of honest analysis. why not. there is a pretty good balance of opinion on sotg tbh. Why are you comparing sotg to fuck slasher? They arent geared toward the same thing. Fuck slasher is more news focused while sotg is more game focused. SotG doesnt discuss the game anymore. Where have you been? They cover the news and upcoming tournaments. The closest thing that they ever get to discussing the game is Brood War. I said game, not game play. They talk tournaments and thats pretty much it. They talk news when its a huge story, but thats it. Fuck slasher and sotg are very different shows. And sure plenty of people can do it, but they dont and they dont have the appeal of slasher. Like it or not, he is a polarizing character that people like to watch. And he actually comes at it from a journalistic standpoint, something that is badly needed in the community. Personally i would love to see slasher go indie like chobopeon so his hands arent tied at all, but i understand that doesnt pay the bills like MLG does.
well numbers prove you're wrong considering if he had the numbers to back his show, then he wouldn't be getting canceled right? not sure this 'appeal' comes from either. he doesn't offer any good insight, not really any good questions, is kind of awkward, and isn't even all that visually appealing (no homo). again why is he relevant. oh yea '10 years experience in the esports scene'.
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On December 20 2011 16:16 dreamsmasher wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 16:14 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 20 2011 16:00 Spicy_Curry wrote:On December 20 2011 15:51 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 20 2011 15:43 dreamsmasher wrote:On December 20 2011 15:34 Duravi wrote:On December 20 2011 15:31 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 20 2011 15:24 dreamsmasher wrote:On December 20 2011 15:22 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 20 2011 15:09 dreamsmasher wrote:
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umm well considering one of the shows that was canceled was called the WARFARE WEEKLY, ya i think it does kind of have relevance especialy since mlg hosts CoD as a competitive game.
and i care that slasher is a journalist (even if its in esports of 10 years)? why does his experience matter if he doesn't really know shit about the game.
to me he's just some sloppily dressed fucker who i've never seen before offer some rather useless opinions about starcraft. Can you be any more ignorant? Fuck slasher was a good show not because of slashers opinions, but because each day he was able to get big names on the show relating to current topics and issues. And it wasnt just sc2, it was all of esports in one place. Slasher never claimed to be an expert in the games, but always got some experts and pros in daily. It was a great show and i will miss it. Slasher has worked harder in esports than most people. Just because you dont know this doesnt mean you get to be a prick. in other words he could be replaced by someone else who actually knows what theyr'e talking about, or he could be replaced by several shows with people who actually know what they're talking about interviewing the same relevant people. You dont get it. You shouldnt be looking to Slasher for analysis on the games. You look to Slasher for info on news in the scene. Kobe isnt showing you highlights on espn. Kobe isnt doing interviews with Lebron. People like Slasher do that. exactly. kobe isnt going to criticize other players. kobe isnt going to criticize the league. players and people like day 9 cannot be used for any kind of honest analysis. why not. there is a pretty good balance of opinion on sotg tbh. Why are you comparing sotg to fuck slasher? They arent geared toward the same thing. Fuck slasher is more news focused while sotg is more game focused. SotG doesnt discuss the game anymore. Where have you been? They cover the news and upcoming tournaments. The closest thing that they ever get to discussing the game is Brood War. I said game, not game play. They talk tournaments and thats pretty much it. They talk news when its a huge story, but thats it. Fuck slasher and sotg are very different shows. And sure plenty of people can do it, but they dont and they dont have the appeal of slasher. Like it or not, he is a polarizing character that people like to watch. And he actually comes at it from a journalistic standpoint, something that is badly needed in the community. Personally i would love to see slasher go indie like chobopeon so his hands arent tied at all, but i understand that doesnt pay the bills like MLG does. well numbers prove you're wrong considering if he had the numbers to back his show, then he wouldn't be getting canceled right?
Fuck Slasher was a new show, so it takes time to build an audience. Before MLG killed it off pre-maturally, it had been slowly gaining momentum and by far was MLG's best performing daily lineup. In its last weeks, it has been hitting 3k concurrents peaks - that's in line with stuff like Korean Weekly, ITG, IPL, or a bad day for NASL.
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On December 20 2011 16:16 dreamsmasher wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 16:14 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 20 2011 16:00 Spicy_Curry wrote:On December 20 2011 15:51 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 20 2011 15:43 dreamsmasher wrote:On December 20 2011 15:34 Duravi wrote:On December 20 2011 15:31 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 20 2011 15:24 dreamsmasher wrote:On December 20 2011 15:22 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 20 2011 15:09 dreamsmasher wrote:
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umm well considering one of the shows that was canceled was called the WARFARE WEEKLY, ya i think it does kind of have relevance especialy since mlg hosts CoD as a competitive game.
and i care that slasher is a journalist (even if its in esports of 10 years)? why does his experience matter if he doesn't really know shit about the game.
to me he's just some sloppily dressed fucker who i've never seen before offer some rather useless opinions about starcraft. Can you be any more ignorant? Fuck slasher was a good show not because of slashers opinions, but because each day he was able to get big names on the show relating to current topics and issues. And it wasnt just sc2, it was all of esports in one place. Slasher never claimed to be an expert in the games, but always got some experts and pros in daily. It was a great show and i will miss it. Slasher has worked harder in esports than most people. Just because you dont know this doesnt mean you get to be a prick. in other words he could be replaced by someone else who actually knows what theyr'e talking about, or he could be replaced by several shows with people who actually know what they're talking about interviewing the same relevant people. You dont get it. You shouldnt be looking to Slasher for analysis on the games. You look to Slasher for info on news in the scene. Kobe isnt showing you highlights on espn. Kobe isnt doing interviews with Lebron. People like Slasher do that. exactly. kobe isnt going to criticize other players. kobe isnt going to criticize the league. players and people like day 9 cannot be used for any kind of honest analysis. why not. there is a pretty good balance of opinion on sotg tbh. Why are you comparing sotg to fuck slasher? They arent geared toward the same thing. Fuck slasher is more news focused while sotg is more game focused. SotG doesnt discuss the game anymore. Where have you been? They cover the news and upcoming tournaments. The closest thing that they ever get to discussing the game is Brood War. I said game, not game play. They talk tournaments and thats pretty much it. They talk news when its a huge story, but thats it. Fuck slasher and sotg are very different shows. And sure plenty of people can do it, but they dont and they dont have the appeal of slasher. Like it or not, he is a polarizing character that people like to watch. And he actually comes at it from a journalistic standpoint, something that is badly needed in the community. Personally i would love to see slasher go indie like chobopeon so his hands arent tied at all, but i understand that doesnt pay the bills like MLG does. well numbers prove you're wrong considering if he had the numbers to back his show, then he wouldn't be getting canceled right?
He was getting roughly 2k viewers daily and he has Lo3. He has over 13k followers on twitter. How many esports journalists can say that? Hell how many can you name? We dont even know why mlg canceled the shows either. These are only assumptions right now.
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On December 20 2011 16:16 dreamsmasher wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 16:14 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 20 2011 16:00 Spicy_Curry wrote:On December 20 2011 15:51 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 20 2011 15:43 dreamsmasher wrote:On December 20 2011 15:34 Duravi wrote:On December 20 2011 15:31 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 20 2011 15:24 dreamsmasher wrote:On December 20 2011 15:22 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 20 2011 15:09 dreamsmasher wrote:
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umm well considering one of the shows that was canceled was called the WARFARE WEEKLY, ya i think it does kind of have relevance especialy since mlg hosts CoD as a competitive game.
and i care that slasher is a journalist (even if its in esports of 10 years)? why does his experience matter if he doesn't really know shit about the game.
to me he's just some sloppily dressed fucker who i've never seen before offer some rather useless opinions about starcraft. Can you be any more ignorant? Fuck slasher was a good show not because of slashers opinions, but because each day he was able to get big names on the show relating to current topics and issues. And it wasnt just sc2, it was all of esports in one place. Slasher never claimed to be an expert in the games, but always got some experts and pros in daily. It was a great show and i will miss it. Slasher has worked harder in esports than most people. Just because you dont know this doesnt mean you get to be a prick. in other words he could be replaced by someone else who actually knows what theyr'e talking about, or he could be replaced by several shows with people who actually know what they're talking about interviewing the same relevant people. You dont get it. You shouldnt be looking to Slasher for analysis on the games. You look to Slasher for info on news in the scene. Kobe isnt showing you highlights on espn. Kobe isnt doing interviews with Lebron. People like Slasher do that. exactly. kobe isnt going to criticize other players. kobe isnt going to criticize the league. players and people like day 9 cannot be used for any kind of honest analysis. why not. there is a pretty good balance of opinion on sotg tbh. Why are you comparing sotg to fuck slasher? They arent geared toward the same thing. Fuck slasher is more news focused while sotg is more game focused. SotG doesnt discuss the game anymore. Where have you been? They cover the news and upcoming tournaments. The closest thing that they ever get to discussing the game is Brood War. I said game, not game play. They talk tournaments and thats pretty much it. They talk news when its a huge story, but thats it. Fuck slasher and sotg are very different shows. And sure plenty of people can do it, but they dont and they dont have the appeal of slasher. Like it or not, he is a polarizing character that people like to watch. And he actually comes at it from a journalistic standpoint, something that is badly needed in the community. Personally i would love to see slasher go indie like chobopeon so his hands arent tied at all, but i understand that doesnt pay the bills like MLG does. well numbers prove you're wrong considering if he had the numbers to back his show, then he wouldn't be getting canceled right? not sure this 'appeal' comes from either. he doesn't offer any good insight, not really any good questions, is kind of awkward, and isn't even all that visually appealing (no homo). again why is he relevant. oh yea '10 years experience in the esports scene'.
You realize your opinion of him isnt the opinion of everyone right? Why does Bill Simmons have appeal? Slasher does offer vreat insight because he often has the scoop on news stories in esports. Stop looking at this as an analytical thing and look at it as a journalistical standpoint.
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