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Gatored
Profile Joined September 2010
United States679 Posts
December 18 2011 08:25 GMT
#21
If you don't want to be spoiled why are you on this website in the first place? Go watch the VODs beforehand. Simple as that...
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10363 Posts
December 18 2011 08:27 GMT
#22
On December 18 2011 17:25 Gatored wrote:
If you don't want to be spoiled why are you on this website in the first place? Go watch the VODs beforehand. Simple as that...


there are other things to do on this website than to look up results, and who are you to say in what order they have to do things?

TL rules say you should not spoil, simple as that.
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caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
December 18 2011 08:27 GMT
#23
This is cool, people will doubtless find it useful, but I can't help but think this is kind of a bit like people building a bunker in their backyard and stocking up on canned food in preparation for an upcoming apocalypse.
Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10363 Posts
December 18 2011 08:29 GMT
#24
On December 18 2011 17:23 gogogadgetflow wrote:
On one hand, this will be a great extension to suggest to people who bitch about being spoiled on tl. On the other hand, people who come to tl and complain about being spoiled don't really deserve any sympathy, and I'm not prepared to bitch at someone who makes a spoilerish topic without [spoiler] all over it


You're basically saying that it's ok for people who spoil to keep breaking rules.
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Okiesmokie
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada379 Posts
December 18 2011 09:03 GMT
#25
TeamLiquid is not just a news website, it is also a community of people who discuss the game, and not just tournament results. In my opinion, news should be kept to the News section. If you want to post your own little writeup about a tournament, there is no reason at all you shouldn't include [Spoiler] in the title if it contains spoilers.
lolmlg
Profile Joined November 2011
619 Posts
December 18 2011 09:13 GMT
#26
On December 18 2011 16:27 anonymitylol wrote:
I don't get why spoilers are such a big deal, anyways. I don't care if I know the result of a sports game, or SC2 match. I'll still watch it and get the same amount of enjoyment out of it.

It's nice that you don't care and everything but the extension is for people who care. People who don't want to be spoiled but still want to be able to enjoy the rest of what the website has to offer. If you don't care then you're not the target audience.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
December 18 2011 09:20 GMT
#27
I can actually see myself use this, this is a great idea, thank you.
deadmau
Profile Joined September 2010
960 Posts
December 18 2011 09:23 GMT
#28
You have got to be kidding me about this Spoiler hoopla, this is RIDICULOUS children, get over it, you're going to find out anyway, these events that have winners are BIG NEWS let it be big news instead of a kept secret until you and you alone watch it, such selfish bull crap. Get over yourselves.
Befree
Profile Joined April 2010
695 Posts
December 18 2011 09:44 GMT
#29
That's awesome. I had always hoped there might be a spoiler tag type thing added to other parts of the site. And here you just take it all into your own hands .

As for those of you who seem offended by this idea, I'd like to remind you that most people can't watch international broadcasts live and sometimes they can't even watch them fully by the next day. TL can be a big part of their internet browsing and they may love to use it for all kinds of things not related to some specific tournament. A tool like this will allow these people to have more enjoyment in watching their favorite tournaments, and still be able to enjoy browsing TL. And I don't think the addition of [SPOILER] in thread titles will really be too damaging to anyone.

Thanks for the tool.
deadmau
Profile Joined September 2010
960 Posts
December 18 2011 21:39 GMT
#30
On December 18 2011 18:44 Befree wrote:
That's awesome. I had always hoped there might be a spoiler tag type thing added to other parts of the site. And here you just take it all into your own hands .

As for those of you who seem offended by this idea, I'd like to remind you that most people can't watch international broadcasts live and sometimes they can't even watch them fully by the next day. TL can be a big part of their internet browsing and they may love to use it for all kinds of things not related to some specific tournament. A tool like this will allow these people to have more enjoyment in watching their favorite tournaments, and still be able to enjoy browsing TL. And I don't think the addition of [SPOILER] in thread titles will really be too damaging to anyone.

Thanks for the tool.


The problem with people like you is that you're being selfish, sure you can't watch it and I understand that, but hey I cannot catch every event either. You and I both know events are worldwide, and in different time-zones you're not gonna catch every single one, I sure as heck don't and can't. For the greater good of e-Sports, there needs to be excitement and clamor when a great even takes place, but because kids like you are so selfish and don't wanna "spoil" your OWN fun, you have to make everything so downplayed and hidden. This is my opinion, but I truly believe I've nailed it on the bud. I really hope this nonsense ends one day, not for myself, but for e-SPORTS to prosper and become truly glorified. It's great now sure, but it could be greater, if you can't sacrifice your own fun for the greater good well then, selfishness will live on cause nerds can't take one for the team.
Sandtrout
Profile Joined July 2011
243 Posts
December 18 2011 21:50 GMT
#31
On December 19 2011 06:39 deadmau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 18:44 Befree wrote:
That's awesome. I had always hoped there might be a spoiler tag type thing added to other parts of the site. And here you just take it all into your own hands .

As for those of you who seem offended by this idea, I'd like to remind you that most people can't watch international broadcasts live and sometimes they can't even watch them fully by the next day. TL can be a big part of their internet browsing and they may love to use it for all kinds of things not related to some specific tournament. A tool like this will allow these people to have more enjoyment in watching their favorite tournaments, and still be able to enjoy browsing TL. And I don't think the addition of [SPOILER] in thread titles will really be too damaging to anyone.

Thanks for the tool.


The problem with people like you is that you're being selfish, sure you can't watch it and I understand that, but hey I cannot catch every event either. You and I both know events are worldwide, and in different time-zones you're not gonna catch every single one, I sure as heck don't and can't. For the greater good of e-Sports, there needs to be excitement and clamor when a great even takes place, but because kids like you are so selfish and don't wanna "spoil" your OWN fun, you have to make everything so downplayed and hidden. This is my opinion, but I truly believe I've nailed it on the bud. I really hope this nonsense ends one day, not for myself, but for e-SPORTS to prosper and become truly glorified. It's great now sure, but it could be greater, if you can't sacrifice your own fun for the greater good well then, selfishness will live on cause nerds can't take one for the team.



Then this addon would be even better for everyone!
People that have no problem being spoiled just don't use it and a simple spoiler tag in front of threads won't hurt anyone. And people like me who like visiting TL for the general forum, finding vods etc. and don't want to get spoiled could use stuff like this addon to circumvent it.

@OP: Maybe you could add the fanclub section to it as well, it happened to me a lot that I was spoilered through that because the winner's fanclub normally stays on top of the list for some time.
Also, would it be possible to make a firefox addon (if you can't or don't want to do it, maybe someone else could?), because this is pure genius and I would love to use it as well
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
December 18 2011 21:57 GMT
#32
I appreciate the effort and the potential for less people whining about having results spoiled.

But on the other hand, it's their own damn fault for going to an SC2 community website and discussion forum before watching the games.

I consider it 100% the responsibility of the person who doesn't want the results spoiled for them to take all necessary actions to avoid stumbling across spoilers. Going on to a SC2 forum and blaming the OP that spoils the results, just because it's against the rules, is passing the buck. You should have known better. People break the rules all the time, and expecting punishment to work as a deterrent is really naive.
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
Magrath
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada292 Posts
December 18 2011 21:59 GMT
#33
On December 19 2011 06:39 deadmau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 18:44 Befree wrote:
That's awesome. I had always hoped there might be a spoiler tag type thing added to other parts of the site. And here you just take it all into your own hands .

As for those of you who seem offended by this idea, I'd like to remind you that most people can't watch international broadcasts live and sometimes they can't even watch them fully by the next day. TL can be a big part of their internet browsing and they may love to use it for all kinds of things not related to some specific tournament. A tool like this will allow these people to have more enjoyment in watching their favorite tournaments, and still be able to enjoy browsing TL. And I don't think the addition of [SPOILER] in thread titles will really be too damaging to anyone.

Thanks for the tool.


The problem with people like you is that you're being selfish, sure you can't watch it and I understand that, but hey I cannot catch every event either. You and I both know events are worldwide, and in different time-zones you're not gonna catch every single one, I sure as heck don't and can't. For the greater good of e-Sports, there needs to be excitement and clamor when a great even takes place, but because kids like you are so selfish and don't wanna "spoil" your OWN fun, you have to make everything so downplayed and hidden. This is my opinion, but I truly believe I've nailed it on the bud. I really hope this nonsense ends one day, not for myself, but for e-SPORTS to prosper and become truly glorified. It's great now sure, but it could be greater, if you can't sacrifice your own fun for the greater good well then, selfishness will live on cause nerds can't take one for the team.

You really haven't nailed it. This website is much more than a SC2 related site. If you scroll farther down the left side you'll see a bunch of subforums unrelated to SC2 and even without scrolling down there is a general section. It's those forums that attract people to this website who also don't want events spoiled for them. Also having a full-time job and a family also prevents people from watching the full match at the broadcasted time so they rely on VODs. It's a lot easier to browse the forums for 5 minutes than it is to watch the GSL finals that go to game 7 in 5 minutes so they may need to wait up to a week to watch the games. You have to look at it from other people's perspective.

If this website was only SC2 and nothing else than you may have a point but it's really so much more and that's why we have spoilers.
Anything can be acheived through persistence and thought
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
December 18 2011 22:13 GMT
#34
This is kinda nice. Didn't think someone would go all the way to develop such a tool though. Kudos XD
Someone call down the Thunder?
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
December 18 2011 22:20 GMT
#35
On December 19 2011 06:59 Magrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2011 06:39 deadmau wrote:
On December 18 2011 18:44 Befree wrote:
That's awesome. I had always hoped there might be a spoiler tag type thing added to other parts of the site. And here you just take it all into your own hands .

As for those of you who seem offended by this idea, I'd like to remind you that most people can't watch international broadcasts live and sometimes they can't even watch them fully by the next day. TL can be a big part of their internet browsing and they may love to use it for all kinds of things not related to some specific tournament. A tool like this will allow these people to have more enjoyment in watching their favorite tournaments, and still be able to enjoy browsing TL. And I don't think the addition of [SPOILER] in thread titles will really be too damaging to anyone.

Thanks for the tool.


The problem with people like you is that you're being selfish, sure you can't watch it and I understand that, but hey I cannot catch every event either. You and I both know events are worldwide, and in different time-zones you're not gonna catch every single one, I sure as heck don't and can't. For the greater good of e-Sports, there needs to be excitement and clamor when a great even takes place, but because kids like you are so selfish and don't wanna "spoil" your OWN fun, you have to make everything so downplayed and hidden. This is my opinion, but I truly believe I've nailed it on the bud. I really hope this nonsense ends one day, not for myself, but for e-SPORTS to prosper and become truly glorified. It's great now sure, but it could be greater, if you can't sacrifice your own fun for the greater good well then, selfishness will live on cause nerds can't take one for the team.

You really haven't nailed it. This website is much more than a SC2 related site. If you scroll farther down the left side you'll see a bunch of subforums unrelated to SC2 and even without scrolling down there is a general section. It's those forums that attract people to this website who also don't want events spoiled for them. Also having a full-time job and a family also prevents people from watching the full match at the broadcasted time so they rely on VODs. It's a lot easier to browse the forums for 5 minutes than it is to watch the GSL finals that go to game 7 in 5 minutes so they may need to wait up to a week to watch the games. You have to look at it from other people's perspective.

If this website was only SC2 and nothing else than you may have a point but it's really so much more and that's why we have spoilers.



Likewise, a newspaper is so much more than Sports. Yet, the day after an important game I missed and want to watch later, I know enough to stay away from newspapers until I get the time to watch the game myself. I'd likewise stay away from any bars, which are about so much more than just Sports, but incredibly likely to spoil the game. I'd also avoid getting into conversations with people I know are likely to bring up the game in casual conversation.

If your ability to watch the game is so limited that you can't spend a day or two avoiding the most likely spoiler-zones, then it's incredibly unrealistic to expect that you'll be able to watch a spoiler-free match.
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
Okiesmokie
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada379 Posts
December 19 2011 02:15 GMT
#36
On December 19 2011 06:39 deadmau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 18:44 Befree wrote:
That's awesome. I had always hoped there might be a spoiler tag type thing added to other parts of the site. And here you just take it all into your own hands .

As for those of you who seem offended by this idea, I'd like to remind you that most people can't watch international broadcasts live and sometimes they can't even watch them fully by the next day. TL can be a big part of their internet browsing and they may love to use it for all kinds of things not related to some specific tournament. A tool like this will allow these people to have more enjoyment in watching their favorite tournaments, and still be able to enjoy browsing TL. And I don't think the addition of [SPOILER] in thread titles will really be too damaging to anyone.

Thanks for the tool.


The problem with people like you is that you're being selfish, sure you can't watch it and I understand that, but hey I cannot catch every event either. You and I both know events are worldwide, and in different time-zones you're not gonna catch every single one, I sure as heck don't and can't. For the greater good of e-Sports, there needs to be excitement and clamor when a great even takes place, but because kids like you are so selfish and don't wanna "spoil" your OWN fun, you have to make everything so downplayed and hidden. This is my opinion, but I truly believe I've nailed it on the bud. I really hope this nonsense ends one day, not for myself, but for e-SPORTS to prosper and become truly glorified. It's great now sure, but it could be greater, if you can't sacrifice your own fun for the greater good well then, selfishness will live on cause nerds can't take one for the team.

It's so easy to be hypocritical. You too are being selfish by wanting to spoil the results of games other people haven't seen. Making people not want to watch games they have missed because they've been spoiled is hurting esports just as much as "downplaying the excitement."

It's not hard to put spoiler tags in thread titles/thread content, and it doesn't do anything to "hurt esports" by having those seven extra letters. What it does do, however, is show respect to other people who enjoy watching the games as much as you do.
DrOmni
Profile Joined March 2011
United States128 Posts
December 19 2011 02:25 GMT
#37
Okay, somebody please explain to me why it so bad to be spoiled? I want to legitimately understand why it is so infuriating as I am on the other side of this fence... I look at the results of every series I am going to watch to make sure it is worth watching in the first place. Not once has a thread angered me because I saw a winner, it simply made me curious as the overall results (I don't look at comments about the games) and if it wasn't a complete demolishing of the other player I will watch it. This is just my outlook, but I would like to know the other side...
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Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
December 19 2011 02:34 GMT
#38
Yes, this is the correct solution. SC2 news sites can talk about SC2 news and people that get upset over this (but still visit anyway) can download an add-on to remedy their peculiar requirements for a SC2 news and discussion site.
Emporio
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3069 Posts
December 19 2011 02:34 GMT
#39
How does this change anything? All it does is hide the topics that are already hiding the winner in the title.
How does it feel knowing you wasted another 3 seconds of your life reading this again?
Okiesmokie
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada379 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-19 02:40:14
December 19 2011 02:38 GMT
#40
On December 19 2011 11:34 Emporio wrote:
How does this change anything? All it does is hide the topics that are already hiding the winner in the title.

Reduces temptation to click, but it also hides the news on the website.

Also, some people are stupid with thread names, ie: [SPOILER] JoeBlow is now the best Protoss
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