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Complexity transfers NaNiwa to Quantic Gaming - Page 10

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Please make sure to read the statement from Naniwa that is linked in the full article before commenting.
NKsc2
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden133 Posts
December 08 2011 21:15 GMT
#181
O_O Ok so complexity is no longer my favourite team. Gogo Quantic!
ShatterZer0
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1843 Posts
December 08 2011 21:16 GMT
#182
.... I hope players like iNcontoL, Machine, Sheth, NonY etc get better and start kicking ass... I really can't take the entire foreign scene been looked down upon by Koreans because every foreign top player (in Korea) seems to be a BM asshole in persona or in truth (except Jinro and HuK T.T).

Case in point, iDra, CutePincessBritneyMajor, and Naniwa... (Stephano to some degree because in many's eyes he's just a kid who could care less about SC2 in comparison to those who bet their lives on the game)
A time to live.
greyconnect
Profile Joined June 2011
39 Posts
December 08 2011 21:16 GMT
#183
Big pick up for Quantic. Best of luck to Naniwa, sad to think of him alone and kinda isolated in Korea, so I hope this'll be a better arrangement for him. After seeing him at MLG it's clear he's been improving like crazy, I look forward to seeing what more he'll accomplish with a closer team.
NeWeNiyaLord
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway2474 Posts
December 08 2011 21:16 GMT
#184
On December 09 2011 06:14 jinixxx123 wrote:
hmm, this seems blown out of proportion . from what im reading, nani is feeling lonely, hes from Sweden, Sase is also from Sweden, both of them have the same goals for starcraft 2 and are willing to give up everything, they are now best buds and they want to live to together. Its as simple as that .

Pretty much, yeah Totally understand it :/ Its not easy beeing the only english speaker for sure.
This is where we begin. Show your true self, Battosai.
XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
December 08 2011 21:16 GMT
#185
On December 09 2011 06:13 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 06:09 Canucklehead wrote:
On December 09 2011 06:06 Odal wrote:
Quantic seems like such a cool and chill team to be on. Not so uptight about professionalism and stuff. They are shaping up to be my favorite foreign team.


Orly? They tweeted this after naniwa beat nestea.



Quantic Gaming
@QuanticGaming Quantic Gaming
We at @QuanticGaming and @QuanticIM would like to remind all players the importance of sportsmanship and good manners. #MLG #SC2 #Providence


Ok well this just got interesting.



Quantic Gaming being a little hypocritical
Never GG MKP | IdrA
.Sic.
Profile Joined February 2011
Korea (South)497 Posts
December 08 2011 21:16 GMT
#186
On December 09 2011 05:47 Grettin wrote:
Since everyone seem to read just the OP:

Show nested quote +
"I was not a good fit in Complexity because I was all alone in Korea, and they had no plans to send any more of their players here for a long time. I may come off as a cold person in interviews and with the way I act in general, but I get lonely quite easily. Living with other people who speak English and being around StarTale (who embraced me with open arms when I first came to Korea) is an exciting prospect for me. If my time within Quantic goes as well as I think it will, then you can bet I won’t be moving teams again. Thanks to all my fans! Continue to support me in the future please!”"


where did this come from?
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Elean
Profile Joined October 2010
689 Posts
December 08 2011 21:17 GMT
#187
I wonder if this is the reason for the end of the IM-Quantic partnership
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
December 08 2011 21:17 GMT
#188
On December 09 2011 06:13 IPA wrote:
Seems like these are exactly the kinds of issues one needs to think about before joining a team.

"I'm going to join Complexity. Knowing that I get lonely, and that I'll be training in Korea, are there other members of my team out there? Are there any plans to send additional Complexity members to Korea? No? Then I will not be signing with this team."

Seems a lot better than joining a team and leaving it within a month or two. All of these tradings, transfers, etc just make esports look like a joke. I long for more teams like Liquid or EG where the loyalty and professionalism is front and center (HuK notwithstanding).

GL QxG. At this point, nothing would surprise me.


Maybe he was of the impression that they would send more players? Also people make too big of a deal with players changing teams, it's not really that big of a difference to some other real world sports.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
December 08 2011 21:17 GMT
#189
On December 09 2011 06:16 .Sic. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 05:47 Grettin wrote:
Since everyone seem to read just the OP:

"I was not a good fit in Complexity because I was all alone in Korea, and they had no plans to send any more of their players here for a long time. I may come off as a cold person in interviews and with the way I act in general, but I get lonely quite easily. Living with other people who speak English and being around StarTale (who embraced me with open arms when I first came to Korea) is an exciting prospect for me. If my time within Quantic goes as well as I think it will, then you can bet I won’t be moving teams again. Thanks to all my fans! Continue to support me in the future please!”"


where did this come from?


There is a link in the op to the full article.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
ladyumbra
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1699 Posts
December 08 2011 21:17 GMT
#190
Aww this is just going to set people off about how terrible his attitude is etc etc. Anyone who caught him with Khaldor during the KSL broadcast today saw a much lighter and at ease side of Naniwa. Fuck he was pretty comfy at the MVP house when Drewbie was there and he's always been chatty with Sase on twitter ( or sase is tweeting about him lol). It's not like Naniwa can't be nice, friendly, funny or even genuinely charming it's that people only look for the times when he's acting out. ( much like how day9 said no matter how well Idra does in tournaments for the rest of his career he will always be taunted about hallucinated units and gging early in general)

Personally I hope Naniwa finds happiness and companionship on his new team as well as the training enviroment he desires. I want to see him settled and working on being productive in improving so he can just play the game which is all he really seems to want.
lessQQmorePEWPEW
Profile Joined November 2011
Jamaica921 Posts
December 08 2011 21:17 GMT
#191
While its a mutual transfer between parties, all these team changes is making naniwa looking more like a sc2 diva. cant be too sure though.

gl to all those involved.
Why drink and drive when you can smoke and fly - Bob Marley
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
December 08 2011 21:18 GMT
#192
On December 09 2011 06:15 XRaDiiX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 06:06 ptbl wrote:
Quantic is being hypocritical here. After lambasting and criticizing naniwa at providence, they go sign him a couple weeks later. -.-


Lol i didn't know they did that does anyone have a link to their Statement about Naniwa



http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=292896&currentpage=9#173
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
December 08 2011 21:18 GMT
#193
On December 09 2011 06:17 Elean wrote:
I wonder if this is the reason for the end of the IM-Quantic partnership


It probably is. With Nestea being a God, he probably foresaw this in the future and preemptively called for the end of the quantic/IM partnership.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Bru
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden184 Posts
December 08 2011 21:18 GMT
#194
great pickup my 2 fav toss in my now favorite team :D sase and nani fighting
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27225 Posts
December 08 2011 21:18 GMT
#195
Interesting, reading between the lines it would appear that Quantic are close to a tie-in with another team, or at least have given Naniwa this impression. He's been pretty vocal about wanting to practice with Koreans in a non-GOM house environment anyway so I don't see why'd he commit to this if there wasn't the possibility of that happening soon. Quantic is looking pretty Protoss heavy these days at least with regards to their players with top-tier results so a linkup would probably be best if Nani especially is looking for high-quality practice prior to his run at Code S

Naniwa and Sase will if nothing else get a lot of PvP practice, although given that the two guys appear to be pretty good friends I'm sure they probably practiced together prior to this.

Only shame is the amount of people in the thread who look at the title, don't appear to actually read any of the pertinent material and conjure wild theories out of thin air. Nothing wrong with conjecture by any means, but at least read the fucking OPs!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
StarMoon
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada682 Posts
December 08 2011 21:18 GMT
#196
I imagine this has at least something to do with the recent drama between him and Nestea at MLG.
Cyx.
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada806 Posts
December 08 2011 21:18 GMT
#197
On December 09 2011 06:16 .Sic. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 05:47 Grettin wrote:
Since everyone seem to read just the OP:

"I was not a good fit in Complexity because I was all alone in Korea, and they had no plans to send any more of their players here for a long time. I may come off as a cold person in interviews and with the way I act in general, but I get lonely quite easily. Living with other people who speak English and being around StarTale (who embraced me with open arms when I first came to Korea) is an exciting prospect for me. If my time within Quantic goes as well as I think it will, then you can bet I won’t be moving teams again. Thanks to all my fans! Continue to support me in the future please!”"


where did this come from?

It's linked in the article. Read the warning thing at the top of every page.

Also, Quantic's website hasn't updated their SC2 roster yet =P

I find it hard to be upset with Naniwa for this, I'm stoked that he and SaSe are in Korea together and then when Destiny goes, if it does for him what it could, Quantic could become one of the most powerful foreign teams.
-Risk-
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada164 Posts
December 08 2011 21:19 GMT
#198
From Empire to Dignitas to Complexity to Quantic

This is all going quite fast t_t
Check out my stream at http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/-Risk-
hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-08 21:21:47
December 08 2011 21:19 GMT
#199
This seems like a pretty silly move on coL's part, not that we really know the reasoning behind the switch. If Nani was being difficult or demanding more money, honestly and objectively speaking, coL should've dealt with it and given him a raise.

Complexity without Nani is basically just a group of friends with some sponsors. They can't really win anything though and no one cares much about them.

Him being lonely makes sense, but I don't see how coL couldn't work an arrangement out that keeps Nani on their team but lets him move in with Sase or someone (maybe the EG guys?). I mean, if you have sponsors, they want their brand being broadcast and at this point that's no longer happening.
Gusenbauer
Profile Joined May 2011
Austria19 Posts
December 08 2011 21:19 GMT
#200
Finally being able to cheer for complexity again...great feeling
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