EPTWhy Fin looks like one of the best in sc2 already - Page 34
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Treziel
United Kingdom123 Posts
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cydial
United States750 Posts
On December 09 2011 23:28 OGKruemmel wrote: I have a question: Everyone talks about BW pros being totally kickass, but dont we have 3 BW legends already playing, and not showing too good results? NaDa, BoxeR and July  Her Der troll detected. Nobody can be this stupid. | ||
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ceaRshaf
Romania4926 Posts
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InDaHouse
Sweden956 Posts
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MepHiii
Poland191 Posts
On December 10 2011 00:08 Noocta wrote: Hydra vs Idra matches. How the fun for casters. Even more than Killer vs Killer. or white-ra vs idra matches | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On December 10 2011 00:20 ceaRshaf wrote: Hmm, I've been watching his stream and he makes many, many mistakes. He certanly does not rape ladder like HerO or Stephano have. Lol what are you talking about? He has had 3 accounts in top 10 GM with over 70% win ratio since season 2. | ||
xi Tempest x
Scotland340 Posts
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jellyjello
Korea (South)664 Posts
On December 10 2011 00:20 ceaRshaf wrote: Hmm, I've been watching his stream and he makes many, many mistakes. He certanly does not rape ladder like HerO or Stephano have. He seems still raw in many areas. Most times he's pretty much overwhelming his opponents with his BW mechanics, and it doesn't look like he understands all the details of SC2 completely yet. This is so compelling to watch because of the possibilities of SC2 with more A class BW players of other races (toss / zergs) switch. | ||
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Elefanto
Switzerland3584 Posts
On December 10 2011 00:04 jellyjello wrote: hydra playing sc2? I would love to see him switch. He'd really show how zerg race is supposed to be played I don't think he could play starcraft 2, because of 3D. His perception would be too much of a hindrance i suppose. | ||
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mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
On December 09 2011 23:49 JesusOurSaviour wrote: Yep - they are waaaaaaay past their prime. Just check TLPD and watch some of the VODS of BW games from back in 2006-2008. The standard of games / the strategies employed are all sub-par to the games we are seeing today. Taek-Bang-Lee-Sang are on a totally different level than Nada, Boxer, July and the lot. July's win-rate in his last few years of BW was pathetic. Nada maintained a mediocre standard near the end of his BW career. That's why little known players like Mvp was called one of the "best" to switch from BW - not because he won an OSL, but because his skill level was the highest out of all the Ex-BW's to have switched. Also SCII was ... volatile. It's still volatile and HoTS will rip apart the whole metagame once again sigh. ogsMC, aka "MBCgame Suicide Toss" used to be known as "Iron" in BW. He was called "suicide toss" because he played extremely risky and acted ballsy. Point being, he lost most of his games lol I glanced at July's last 10 games and ForGG's and ironically July won more of them than Forgg did. People need to just wait and see how people do before proclaiming them the best ever. Also, people like MC and MVP simply got better chances to do well here and likely put in more effort. That alone can explain a big part of why they do better here. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On December 10 2011 00:45 mrtomjones wrote: I glanced at July's last 10 games and ForGG's and ironically July won more of them than Forgg did. People need to just wait and see how people do before proclaiming them the best ever. Also, people like MC and MVP simply got better chances to do well here and likely put in more effort. That alone can explain a big part of why they do better here. Why are you trying to pretend like you know who was good in BW by using those stats? When people say forgg was better than july at the ends of their career it's not even close. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On December 10 2011 00:45 mrtomjones wrote: I glanced at July's last 10 games and ForGG's and ironically July won more of them than Forgg did. People need to just wait and see how people do before proclaiming them the best ever. Also, people like MC and MVP simply got better chances to do well here and likely put in more effort. That alone can explain a big part of why they do better here. Dunno, back then I watched every single game in proleague and MSL and OSL and ForGG actually was always really good but just had silly fails, when he retired he still was like #16 in kespa rank and just got into top 8 in a big tournament I think, also he pretty much always played macro while july cheesed most of the time in his past games. Also it's very likely july played worse opponents than forgg at the time, you can't just look at it like that. Also the people who say MVP was better than forgg when he retired clearly didn't follow the scene enough | ||
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ceaRshaf
Romania4926 Posts
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On December 10 2011 00:54 ceaRshaf wrote: I am watching forGG for the last hour and he plays lots of tvts, and many of them are loses. How come he meets so many tvts on ladder? ...? I've been watching for a while and he's been playing mostly zergs/protosses. Also, he doesn't have very many losses at all. | ||
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ceaRshaf
Romania4926 Posts
On December 10 2011 01:00 Itsmedudeman wrote: ...? I've been watching for a while and he's been playing mostly zergs/protosses. Also, he doesn't have very many losses at all. Are you sure you are not watching Thorzain? | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On December 10 2011 00:54 ceaRshaf wrote: I am watching forGG for the last hour and he plays lots of tvts, and many of them are loses. How come he meets so many tvts on ladder? He lost TvT to TOP. It's not something to be ashame of, specialy since he take back games time to time. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On December 10 2011 01:02 ceaRshaf wrote: Are you sure you are not watching Thorzain? Here's his record : http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/profile/2842545/1/Raptor/matches And recently it's been terrans I guess, but all day today and yesterday it's been like zergs/protosses. And yeah, he lost to TOP but he's 2-1 then cause he's beaten him twice today. | ||
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ceaRshaf
Romania4926 Posts
On December 10 2011 01:04 Itsmedudeman wrote: Here's his record : http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/profile/2842545/1/Raptor/matches And recently it's been terrans I guess, but all day today and yesterday it's been like zergs/protosses. And yeah, he lost to TOP but he's 2-1 then cause he's beaten him twice today. So why are you posting? All I have said is that I have been watching his stream the last hour and a half and he gets many many terrans and that he lost a lot to them. I didn't say his record is bad, just that he lost a lot today, and mostly vs t. That is blindly fanboism. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On December 10 2011 01:07 ceaRshaf wrote: So why are you posting? All I have said is that I have been watching his stream the last hour and a half and he gets many many terrans and that he lost a lot to them. I didn't say his record is bad, just that he lost a lot today, and mostly vs t. That is blindly fanboism. Well, considering he's lost a total of 3 games in the past 14 games I don't know what you're talking about exactly. If you've only been watching for an hour and a half which constitutes about 4-5 games, why did you bother to ask? | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On December 10 2011 01:07 ceaRshaf wrote: So why are you posting? All I have said is that I have been watching his stream the last hour and a half and he gets many many terrans and that he lost a lot to them. I didn't say his record is bad, just that he lost a lot today, and mostly vs t. That is blindly fanboism. What's your point then? O.o | ||
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