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Zuxo
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden395 Posts
December 05 2011 22:36 GMT
#161
On December 06 2011 06:02 Chicane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 05:28 Hrrrrm wrote:
On December 06 2011 04:01 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On December 06 2011 03:38 skeldark wrote:
On December 06 2011 03:32 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On December 06 2011 03:28 skeldark wrote:
so let me repeat what you said :

"lets SPAM together to make something we like more popular..."

what about writing emails to everyone in the world with a story of a African king so that we can collect money for esport?

This is possibly the worst analogy ever conceived, and everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

One person sending 10,000 identical e-mails =/= 10,000 unique people sending one unique tweet. The idea is to spread the word about ESPORTS to people on Twitter who may not know that much about it.



1) you are able to rewrite something you read on the internet, congrats to this! it let you look very intelligent...
At least you have one sentence with your own words. More than most other ...


2) so the idea is to advertise ESPORT by faking the twitter stats. Thats not really new, you call it SPAM.
As good as the lets "vote up" on reddit.

The goal is that more people who dont know about ESPORT know about it.
So do you know how to make money without work?
i want to bring this closer to you, pls pm my all your emails i will make sure your are on many spamlists so you get kind of unique mails form 10.000 people every day.



It's not faking Twitter statistics if people are actually tweeting about it. JP is just asking people to tweet about it, same way Gary Danielson advertises tweeting with their #CBSFootball or whatever it is when I'm watching football on the weekends. It would be faking Twitter statistics if JP was asking people to make multiple Twitter accounts, and making multiple ones himself just spamming back and forth to eachother and retweeting himself hundreds of times. It's completely 100% legit to reach out to the community and say "Hey, let's spread the word and all tweet about this, the community already managed to get #GSL trending during the finals"


It's one thing to ask people to twitter using whatever hashtag during the show if they have thoughts or opinions on the content. It's COMPLETELY DIFFERENT to what JP is about to do which is ask everyone to get their phones ready and web pages ready and all tweet something at that exact minute. "Ready guys? 3-2-1 TWEET! Har har har look we're trending! Long live #ESPORTS!!!" .

His "experiment" will just prove how easily the system is gamed and that it has no real purpose since anyone with a coordinated effort can influence the system. I'll just reiterate, it's completely different when Tastosis ask people to twitter about the GSL throughout the event on their own and what JP is about to do which is a coordinated countdown to spam a certain message. If you can't see the difference, I don't know what to tell you.


Wow you must not be fun at parties.

I don't understand why you have such a strong moral opinion on getting a word to show up on a website... :O

If a mom tells their child's soccer team that they will all get snacks if they win, are you the guy that would get up from your seat and start yelling "WHOA WHOA WHOA that is some bullshit. The other team isn't getting snacks, and yet you are trying to use an incentive to get them to play better. It wouldn't be a big deal if you would give them snacks regardless of if they won, but using it so that they play harder, then that is ridiculous! If you don't see the difference then I don't know what to tell you."

Seriously though... get over it. There are SO many bigger problems with some actual relevance that you may want to consider devoting your energy towards.


Hahaahah that has to one of the best replies ever conceived.
I'm a mother******* lyrical wordsmith, mother******* genius
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
December 05 2011 22:40 GMT
#162
On December 06 2011 07:23 CuSToM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 06:02 Chicane wrote:
On December 06 2011 05:28 Hrrrrm wrote:
On December 06 2011 04:01 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On December 06 2011 03:38 skeldark wrote:
On December 06 2011 03:32 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On December 06 2011 03:28 skeldark wrote:
so let me repeat what you said :

"lets SPAM together to make something we like more popular..."

what about writing emails to everyone in the world with a story of a African king so that we can collect money for esport?

This is possibly the worst analogy ever conceived, and everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

One person sending 10,000 identical e-mails =/= 10,000 unique people sending one unique tweet. The idea is to spread the word about ESPORTS to people on Twitter who may not know that much about it.



1) you are able to rewrite something you read on the internet, congrats to this! it let you look very intelligent...
At least you have one sentence with your own words. More than most other ...


2) so the idea is to advertise ESPORT by faking the twitter stats. Thats not really new, you call it SPAM.
As good as the lets "vote up" on reddit.

The goal is that more people who dont know about ESPORT know about it.
So do you know how to make money without work?
i want to bring this closer to you, pls pm my all your emails i will make sure your are on many spamlists so you get kind of unique mails form 10.000 people every day.



It's not faking Twitter statistics if people are actually tweeting about it. JP is just asking people to tweet about it, same way Gary Danielson advertises tweeting with their #CBSFootball or whatever it is when I'm watching football on the weekends. It would be faking Twitter statistics if JP was asking people to make multiple Twitter accounts, and making multiple ones himself just spamming back and forth to eachother and retweeting himself hundreds of times. It's completely 100% legit to reach out to the community and say "Hey, let's spread the word and all tweet about this, the community already managed to get #GSL trending during the finals"


It's one thing to ask people to twitter using whatever hashtag during the show if they have thoughts or opinions on the content. It's COMPLETELY DIFFERENT to what JP is about to do which is ask everyone to get their phones ready and web pages ready and all tweet something at that exact minute. "Ready guys? 3-2-1 TWEET! Har har har look we're trending! Long live #ESPORTS!!!" .

His "experiment" will just prove how easily the system is gamed and that it has no real purpose since anyone with a coordinated effort can influence the system. I'll just reiterate, it's completely different when Tastosis ask people to twitter about the GSL throughout the event on their own and what JP is about to do which is a coordinated countdown to spam a certain message. If you can't see the difference, I don't know what to tell you.


Wow you must not be fun at parties.

I don't understand why you have such a strong moral opinion on getting a word to show up on a website... :O

If a mom tells their child's soccer team that they will all get snacks if they win, are you the guy that would get up from your seat and start yelling "WHOA WHOA WHOA that is some bullshit. The other team isn't getting snacks, and yet you are trying to use an incentive to get them to play better. It wouldn't be a big deal if you would give them snacks regardless of if they won, but using it so that they play harder, then that is ridiculous! If you don't see the difference then I don't know what to tell you."

Seriously though... get over it. There are SO many bigger problems with some actual relevance that you may want to consider devoting your energy towards.


lol and I don't understand why you have such a strong desire on getting a word to show up on a website.


I don't, and never said I did. I am simply willing to contribute if I have the time. Nice attempt to try to respond with a clever remark.
Proko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1022 Posts
December 05 2011 22:46 GMT
#163
On December 06 2011 07:23 CuSToM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 06:02 Chicane wrote:
On December 06 2011 05:28 Hrrrrm wrote:
On December 06 2011 04:01 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On December 06 2011 03:38 skeldark wrote:
On December 06 2011 03:32 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On December 06 2011 03:28 skeldark wrote:
so let me repeat what you said :

"lets SPAM together to make something we like more popular..."

what about writing emails to everyone in the world with a story of a African king so that we can collect money for esport?

This is possibly the worst analogy ever conceived, and everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

One person sending 10,000 identical e-mails =/= 10,000 unique people sending one unique tweet. The idea is to spread the word about ESPORTS to people on Twitter who may not know that much about it.



1) you are able to rewrite something you read on the internet, congrats to this! it let you look very intelligent...
At least you have one sentence with your own words. More than most other ...


2) so the idea is to advertise ESPORT by faking the twitter stats. Thats not really new, you call it SPAM.
As good as the lets "vote up" on reddit.

The goal is that more people who dont know about ESPORT know about it.
So do you know how to make money without work?
i want to bring this closer to you, pls pm my all your emails i will make sure your are on many spamlists so you get kind of unique mails form 10.000 people every day.



It's not faking Twitter statistics if people are actually tweeting about it. JP is just asking people to tweet about it, same way Gary Danielson advertises tweeting with their #CBSFootball or whatever it is when I'm watching football on the weekends. It would be faking Twitter statistics if JP was asking people to make multiple Twitter accounts, and making multiple ones himself just spamming back and forth to eachother and retweeting himself hundreds of times. It's completely 100% legit to reach out to the community and say "Hey, let's spread the word and all tweet about this, the community already managed to get #GSL trending during the finals"


It's one thing to ask people to twitter using whatever hashtag during the show if they have thoughts or opinions on the content. It's COMPLETELY DIFFERENT to what JP is about to do which is ask everyone to get their phones ready and web pages ready and all tweet something at that exact minute. "Ready guys? 3-2-1 TWEET! Har har har look we're trending! Long live #ESPORTS!!!" .

His "experiment" will just prove how easily the system is gamed and that it has no real purpose since anyone with a coordinated effort can influence the system. I'll just reiterate, it's completely different when Tastosis ask people to twitter about the GSL throughout the event on their own and what JP is about to do which is a coordinated countdown to spam a certain message. If you can't see the difference, I don't know what to tell you.


Wow you must not be fun at parties.

I don't understand why you have such a strong moral opinion on getting a word to show up on a website... :O

If a mom tells their child's soccer team that they will all get snacks if they win, are you the guy that would get up from your seat and start yelling "WHOA WHOA WHOA that is some bullshit. The other team isn't getting snacks, and yet you are trying to use an incentive to get them to play better. It wouldn't be a big deal if you would give them snacks regardless of if they won, but using it so that they play harder, then that is ridiculous! If you don't see the difference then I don't know what to tell you."

Seriously though... get over it. There are SO many bigger problems with some actual relevance that you may want to consider devoting your energy towards.


lol and I don't understand why you have such a strong desire on getting a word to show up on a website.


He said as he got 22 words to appear on a website.
Caster duos should compliment each others' strengths. "You look very handsome today, Tasteless."
Proflo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States148 Posts
December 05 2011 22:50 GMT
#164
I fully support chicane here, as well as esports, seeya wednesday.
Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know.
kammeyer
Profile Joined June 2010
United States275 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 23:43:12
December 05 2011 23:38 GMT
#165
I swear to Christ TL has some of the biggest fucking tools on it. You should have aptitude/personality tests before allowing someone to sign up, seriously.

Any time anyone suggests to do anything to rally up eSports or SC2, you have basement trolls come out of the wood work to try to demean it. Anyone who doesn't understand the significance of setting a trend on Twitter either doesn't read the news ever or thinks social media is a neat way to talk to friends.

User was temp banned for this post.
Blurry
Profile Joined August 2010
Switzerland125 Posts
December 05 2011 23:59 GMT
#166
I will get flamed for this but I think this is an awful Idea. I understand trying to spread the word about ESPORTS but this is not the way to do it. All I see here is shameless self promotion masked as a "social experiment". This won't increase the popularity of ESPORTS, nor will it attract sponsors for any major tournaments. The fact that he suggested doing this weekly to shout out a specific sponsor if it worked shows its just a marketing gimmick.
GuiltyJerk
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States584 Posts
December 06 2011 00:03 GMT
#167
I like this idea a lot If we can get sponsors to see esports coming up n conversation then we can hopefully move to a whole new level of awesome I shall be sending my tweet at 9 :D
Bswhunter
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia954 Posts
December 06 2011 00:10 GMT
#168
On December 06 2011 08:59 Blurry wrote:
I will get flamed for this but I think this is an awful Idea. I understand trying to spread the word about ESPORTS but this is not the way to do it. All I see here is shameless self promotion masked as a "social experiment". This won't increase the popularity of ESPORTS, nor will it attract sponsors for any major tournaments. The fact that he suggested doing this weekly to shout out a specific sponsor if it worked shows its just a marketing gimmick.

Im pretty sure JP or someone could go, Look at these people, they'll do anything to support this movement! If you sponsor us, then they can support you!
Stop browsing and do whatever it is you're supposed to do. TL will still be here when you get back
GwSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1997 Posts
December 06 2011 00:17 GMT
#169
On December 06 2011 08:59 Blurry wrote:
I will get flamed for this but I think this is an awful Idea. I understand trying to spread the word about ESPORTS but this is not the way to do it. All I see here is shameless self promotion masked as a "social experiment". This won't increase the popularity of ESPORTS, nor will it attract sponsors for any major tournaments. The fact that he suggested doing this weekly to shout out a specific sponsor if it worked shows its just a marketing gimmick.


I see no problem with this whatsoever.
So what if its a marketing gimmick? If it fails who does it hurt? Maybe JP, if he ends up looking dumb because it didn't work, but really thats about it.
If it works, the increased attention could not possibly be a bad thing for SC2 in general. I don't see why anyone would have an issue with this.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
December 06 2011 00:23 GMT
#170
gogogo!

if you don't like it, just don't do it. Why the hell you gotta rain on parades
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
December 06 2011 00:24 GMT
#171
don't care about ESPORT, but I will tweet something about starcraft
acrimoneyius
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States983 Posts
December 06 2011 00:35 GMT
#172
On December 06 2011 09:24 iky43210 wrote:
don't care about ESPORT, but I will tweet something about starcraft


Yea, I'd be on board with this. I support starcraft, not every other game that wants to hop on the band wagon of trying to become another e-sport.
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
December 06 2011 00:41 GMT
#173
On December 06 2011 09:35 acrimoneyius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 09:24 iky43210 wrote:
don't care about ESPORT, but I will tweet something about starcraft


Yea, I'd be on board with this. I support starcraft, not every other game that wants to hop on the band wagon of trying to become another e-sport.


yeah, damn those bandwagoning games trying to become esports, Starcraft 2 started esports! those other games never did anything for esports they are just posers!
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
December 06 2011 00:46 GMT
#174
On December 06 2011 09:41 taLbuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 09:35 acrimoneyius wrote:
On December 06 2011 09:24 iky43210 wrote:
don't care about ESPORT, but I will tweet something about starcraft


Yea, I'd be on board with this. I support starcraft, not every other game that wants to hop on the band wagon of trying to become another e-sport.


yeah, damn those bandwagoning games trying to become esports, Starcraft 2 started esports! those other games never did anything for esports they are just posers!

I'ma go ahead and interpret that as sarcasm. Sarcasm started esports (dare you to deny it). Halo and CS started MLG / esports in the west (never watched a game of either in my life, but I still understand the importance of these games). SC2 just took it to a whole new level that was unimaginable in the west before (and already attained, and still sustained, in Korea).

Please take off your SC2 blinders and look at the bigger picture.
Jaedong.
Kar98
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia924 Posts
December 06 2011 00:47 GMT
#175
I would but I have an exam whwen SOTG is on this week
emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
December 06 2011 01:21 GMT
#176
HOLY FUCK THAT BUG SCARED THE SHIT OUTTA ME.
itmeJP
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1101 Posts
December 06 2011 02:22 GMT
#177
Bump so the evening crowd sees it
Twitter.com/itmeJP -- Twitch.tv/itmeJP -- YouTube.com/itmeJP
sashamunguia
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico423 Posts
December 06 2011 02:48 GMT
#178
If I remember this I'll double tweet for ESPORTS
"only the need for meaning changes how you feel about what you see" "he who is not courageous enough to take risks will accomplish nothing in life" "being a Rebel is as stupid as to be completely Obedient"
elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 04:07:03
December 06 2011 04:06 GMT
#179
On December 05 2011 20:24 NoobStyles wrote:
If anything shouldn't this just prove that twitter is basically useless? If 1000 tweets can get something trending worldwide then how may people are there actually using twitter? not may :-/

maybe we can save some time on STOG and not call out everyones twitter account every ep


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter:

Twitter rapidly gained worldwide popularity, with over 300 million users as of 2011,[6] generating over 300 million tweets and handling over 1.6 billion search queries per day.[3][8][9] It is sometimes described as "the SMS of the Internet."[10]

d=(^_^)z
Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
December 06 2011 04:53 GMT
#180
I'll be there!
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