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On December 06 2011 05:11 hugman wrote:
I don't really understand why anyone cares if something is trending on twitter
Do you people ever look there except to see if GSL is trending?
It doesn't take a degree in rocket science to realize it isn't for the people already going there to trend GSL or ESPORTS, it's for the people that are on twitter that DON'T know about it. If they see it trending then they are more inclined to have their interest piqued and will hopefully put in the effort to find out more about it.
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On December 06 2011 04:01 VirgilSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 03:38 skeldark wrote:On December 06 2011 03:32 VirgilSC2 wrote:On December 06 2011 03:28 skeldark wrote:
so let me repeat what you said :
"lets SPAM together to make something we like more popular..."
what about writing emails to everyone in the world with a story of a African king so that we can collect money for esport?
This is possibly the worst analogy ever conceived, and everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. One person sending 10,000 identical e-mails =/= 10,000 unique people sending one unique tweet. The idea is to spread the word about ESPORTS to people on Twitter who may not know that much about it. 1) you are able to rewrite something you read on the internet, congrats to this! it let you look very intelligent... At least you have one sentence with your own words. More than most other ... 2) so the idea is to advertise ESPORT by faking the twitter stats. Thats not really new, you call it SPAM. As good as the lets "vote up" on reddit. The goal is that more people who dont know about ESPORT know about it. So do you know how to make money without work? i want to bring this closer to you, pls pm my all your emails i will make sure your are on many spamlists so you get kind of unique mails form 10.000 people every day. It's not faking Twitter statistics if people are actually tweeting about it. JP is just asking people to tweet about it, same way Gary Danielson advertises tweeting with their #CBSFootball or whatever it is when I'm watching football on the weekends. It would be faking Twitter statistics if JP was asking people to make multiple Twitter accounts, and making multiple ones himself just spamming back and forth to eachother and retweeting himself hundreds of times. It's completely 100% legit to reach out to the community and say "Hey, let's spread the word and all tweet about this, the community already managed to get #GSL trending during the finals"
It's one thing to ask people to twitter using whatever hashtag during the show if they have thoughts or opinions on the content. It's COMPLETELY DIFFERENT to what JP is about to do which is ask everyone to get their phones ready and web pages ready and all tweet something at that exact minute. "Ready guys? 3-2-1 TWEET! Har har har look we're trending! Long live #ESPORTS!!!" .
His "experiment" will just prove how easily the system is gamed and that it has no real purpose since anyone with a coordinated effort can influence the system. I'll just reiterate, it's completely different when Tastosis ask people to twitter about the GSL throughout the event on their own and what JP is about to do which is a coordinated countdown to spam a certain message. If you can't see the difference, I don't know what to tell you.
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I might actually make a twitter account for this.
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I posted this to reddit, but there are a lot of "trending is pointless" comments in this thread so I thought I'd share my view here as well.
I think getting on the list of trending topics is less important than having the followers of thousands of people being exposed to something that they may not otherwise be aware of. Maybe there's a bigwig in the model train community who happens to enjoy watching StoG. If this guy has 2000 model train enthusiast followers that's 2000 people hearing about esports from a source whose opinion they care about.
Realistically though I don't think this will matter at all. It may work its way into an article or two but I think it's cool simply as a big project that we can all be a part of.
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On December 06 2011 05:28 Hrrrrm wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 04:01 VirgilSC2 wrote:On December 06 2011 03:38 skeldark wrote:On December 06 2011 03:32 VirgilSC2 wrote:On December 06 2011 03:28 skeldark wrote:
so let me repeat what you said :
"lets SPAM together to make something we like more popular..."
what about writing emails to everyone in the world with a story of a African king so that we can collect money for esport?
This is possibly the worst analogy ever conceived, and everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. One person sending 10,000 identical e-mails =/= 10,000 unique people sending one unique tweet. The idea is to spread the word about ESPORTS to people on Twitter who may not know that much about it. 1) you are able to rewrite something you read on the internet, congrats to this! it let you look very intelligent... At least you have one sentence with your own words. More than most other ... 2) so the idea is to advertise ESPORT by faking the twitter stats. Thats not really new, you call it SPAM. As good as the lets "vote up" on reddit. The goal is that more people who dont know about ESPORT know about it. So do you know how to make money without work? i want to bring this closer to you, pls pm my all your emails i will make sure your are on many spamlists so you get kind of unique mails form 10.000 people every day. It's not faking Twitter statistics if people are actually tweeting about it. JP is just asking people to tweet about it, same way Gary Danielson advertises tweeting with their #CBSFootball or whatever it is when I'm watching football on the weekends. It would be faking Twitter statistics if JP was asking people to make multiple Twitter accounts, and making multiple ones himself just spamming back and forth to eachother and retweeting himself hundreds of times. It's completely 100% legit to reach out to the community and say "Hey, let's spread the word and all tweet about this, the community already managed to get #GSL trending during the finals" It's one thing to ask people to twitter using whatever hashtag during the show if they have thoughts or opinions on the content. It's COMPLETELY DIFFERENT to what JP is about to do which is ask everyone to get their phones ready and web pages ready and all tweet something at that exact minute. "Ready guys? 3-2-1 TWEET! Har har har look we're trending! Long live #ESPORTS!!!" . His "experiment" will just prove how easily the system is gamed and that it has no real purpose since anyone with a coordinated effort can influence the system. I'll just reiterate, it's completely different when Tastosis ask people to twitter about the GSL throughout the event on their own and what JP is about to do which is a coordinated countdown to spam a certain message. If you can't see the difference, I don't know what to tell you.
I think it should say something about the community, which is what he's trying to do, if there are enough people watching to actually skyrocket this all the way up the trending list. It's not like he's saying we should go around spamming people we don't know on Facebook with links to SotG, all he's asking is for a coordinated effort from ESPORTS fans to a) test a theory, because 1000 tweets/hour for a trend really does seem pretty low, and b) because there are TONS of people on Twitter who, when they see what is trending, go "Hey, what is #ESPORTS and why is it trending?"
There's really no harm in what he's trying to do, it seems to me like you're just trying to vilify JP for no real reason.
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I'm CET so i'll be sleeping but i'll set up a scheduled tweet at 6AM 
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On December 06 2011 05:28 Hrrrrm wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 04:01 VirgilSC2 wrote:On December 06 2011 03:38 skeldark wrote:On December 06 2011 03:32 VirgilSC2 wrote:On December 06 2011 03:28 skeldark wrote:
so let me repeat what you said :
"lets SPAM together to make something we like more popular..."
what about writing emails to everyone in the world with a story of a African king so that we can collect money for esport?
This is possibly the worst analogy ever conceived, and everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. One person sending 10,000 identical e-mails =/= 10,000 unique people sending one unique tweet. The idea is to spread the word about ESPORTS to people on Twitter who may not know that much about it. 1) you are able to rewrite something you read on the internet, congrats to this! it let you look very intelligent... At least you have one sentence with your own words. More than most other ... 2) so the idea is to advertise ESPORT by faking the twitter stats. Thats not really new, you call it SPAM. As good as the lets "vote up" on reddit. The goal is that more people who dont know about ESPORT know about it. So do you know how to make money without work? i want to bring this closer to you, pls pm my all your emails i will make sure your are on many spamlists so you get kind of unique mails form 10.000 people every day. It's not faking Twitter statistics if people are actually tweeting about it. JP is just asking people to tweet about it, same way Gary Danielson advertises tweeting with their #CBSFootball or whatever it is when I'm watching football on the weekends. It would be faking Twitter statistics if JP was asking people to make multiple Twitter accounts, and making multiple ones himself just spamming back and forth to eachother and retweeting himself hundreds of times. It's completely 100% legit to reach out to the community and say "Hey, let's spread the word and all tweet about this, the community already managed to get #GSL trending during the finals" It's one thing to ask people to twitter using whatever hashtag during the show if they have thoughts or opinions on the content. It's COMPLETELY DIFFERENT to what JP is about to do which is ask everyone to get their phones ready and web pages ready and all tweet something at that exact minute. "Ready guys? 3-2-1 TWEET! Har har har look we're trending! Long live #ESPORTS!!!" . His "experiment" will just prove how easily the system is gamed and that it has no real purpose since anyone with a coordinated effort can influence the system. I'll just reiterate, it's completely different when Tastosis ask people to twitter about the GSL throughout the event on their own and what JP is about to do which is a coordinated countdown to spam a certain message. If you can't see the difference, I don't know what to tell you.
Wow you must not be fun at parties.
I don't understand why you have such a strong moral opinion on getting a word to show up on a website... :O
If a mom tells their child's soccer team that they will all get snacks if they win, are you the guy that would get up from your seat and start yelling "WHOA WHOA WHOA that is some bullshit. The other team isn't getting snacks, and yet you are trying to use an incentive to get them to play better. It wouldn't be a big deal if you would give them snacks regardless of if they won, but using it so that they play harder, then that is ridiculous! If you don't see the difference then I don't know what to tell you."
Seriously though... get over it. There are SO many bigger problems with some actual relevance that you may want to consider devoting your energy towards.
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is this gonna happen today? because I can't find sotg in the upcoming events and I don't wanna wake up for nothing
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On December 06 2011 06:02 Chicane wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 06 2011 05:28 Hrrrrm wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 04:01 VirgilSC2 wrote:On December 06 2011 03:38 skeldark wrote:On December 06 2011 03:32 VirgilSC2 wrote:On December 06 2011 03:28 skeldark wrote:
so let me repeat what you said :
"lets SPAM together to make something we like more popular..."
what about writing emails to everyone in the world with a story of a African king so that we can collect money for esport?
This is possibly the worst analogy ever conceived, and everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. One person sending 10,000 identical e-mails =/= 10,000 unique people sending one unique tweet. The idea is to spread the word about ESPORTS to people on Twitter who may not know that much about it. 1) you are able to rewrite something you read on the internet, congrats to this! it let you look very intelligent... At least you have one sentence with your own words. More than most other ... 2) so the idea is to advertise ESPORT by faking the twitter stats. Thats not really new, you call it SPAM. As good as the lets "vote up" on reddit. The goal is that more people who dont know about ESPORT know about it. So do you know how to make money without work? i want to bring this closer to you, pls pm my all your emails i will make sure your are on many spamlists so you get kind of unique mails form 10.000 people every day. It's not faking Twitter statistics if people are actually tweeting about it. JP is just asking people to tweet about it, same way Gary Danielson advertises tweeting with their #CBSFootball or whatever it is when I'm watching football on the weekends. It would be faking Twitter statistics if JP was asking people to make multiple Twitter accounts, and making multiple ones himself just spamming back and forth to eachother and retweeting himself hundreds of times. It's completely 100% legit to reach out to the community and say "Hey, let's spread the word and all tweet about this, the community already managed to get #GSL trending during the finals" It's one thing to ask people to twitter using whatever hashtag during the show if they have thoughts or opinions on the content. It's COMPLETELY DIFFERENT to what JP is about to do which is ask everyone to get their phones ready and web pages ready and all tweet something at that exact minute. "Ready guys? 3-2-1 TWEET! Har har har look we're trending! Long live #ESPORTS!!!" . His "experiment" will just prove how easily the system is gamed and that it has no real purpose since anyone with a coordinated effort can influence the system. I'll just reiterate, it's completely different when Tastosis ask people to twitter about the GSL throughout the event on their own and what JP is about to do which is a coordinated countdown to spam a certain message. If you can't see the difference, I don't know what to tell you. Wow you must not be fun at parties. .
I laughed quite uncontrollably at this response. Thank you for making my day, sir.
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This will happen Wednesday, Dec 07 5:00am GMT (GMT+00:00).
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On December 06 2011 06:02 Chicane wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 05:28 Hrrrrm wrote:On December 06 2011 04:01 VirgilSC2 wrote:On December 06 2011 03:38 skeldark wrote:On December 06 2011 03:32 VirgilSC2 wrote:On December 06 2011 03:28 skeldark wrote:
so let me repeat what you said :
"lets SPAM together to make something we like more popular..."
what about writing emails to everyone in the world with a story of a African king so that we can collect money for esport?
This is possibly the worst analogy ever conceived, and everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. One person sending 10,000 identical e-mails =/= 10,000 unique people sending one unique tweet. The idea is to spread the word about ESPORTS to people on Twitter who may not know that much about it. 1) you are able to rewrite something you read on the internet, congrats to this! it let you look very intelligent... At least you have one sentence with your own words. More than most other ... 2) so the idea is to advertise ESPORT by faking the twitter stats. Thats not really new, you call it SPAM. As good as the lets "vote up" on reddit. The goal is that more people who dont know about ESPORT know about it. So do you know how to make money without work? i want to bring this closer to you, pls pm my all your emails i will make sure your are on many spamlists so you get kind of unique mails form 10.000 people every day. It's not faking Twitter statistics if people are actually tweeting about it. JP is just asking people to tweet about it, same way Gary Danielson advertises tweeting with their #CBSFootball or whatever it is when I'm watching football on the weekends. It would be faking Twitter statistics if JP was asking people to make multiple Twitter accounts, and making multiple ones himself just spamming back and forth to eachother and retweeting himself hundreds of times. It's completely 100% legit to reach out to the community and say "Hey, let's spread the word and all tweet about this, the community already managed to get #GSL trending during the finals" It's one thing to ask people to twitter using whatever hashtag during the show if they have thoughts or opinions on the content. It's COMPLETELY DIFFERENT to what JP is about to do which is ask everyone to get their phones ready and web pages ready and all tweet something at that exact minute. "Ready guys? 3-2-1 TWEET! Har har har look we're trending! Long live #ESPORTS!!!" . His "experiment" will just prove how easily the system is gamed and that it has no real purpose since anyone with a coordinated effort can influence the system. I'll just reiterate, it's completely different when Tastosis ask people to twitter about the GSL throughout the event on their own and what JP is about to do which is a coordinated countdown to spam a certain message. If you can't see the difference, I don't know what to tell you. Wow you must not be fun at parties. I don't understand why you have such a strong moral opinion on getting a word to show up on a website... :O If a mom tells their child's soccer team that they will all get snacks if they win, are you the guy that would get up from your seat and start yelling "WHOA WHOA WHOA that is some bullshit. The other team isn't getting snacks, and yet you are trying to use an incentive to get them to play better. It wouldn't be a big deal if you would give them snacks regardless of if they won, but using it so that they play harder, then that is ridiculous! If you don't see the difference then I don't know what to tell you." Seriously though... get over it. There are SO many bigger problems with some actual relevance that you may want to consider devoting your energy towards.
I was gonna reply to this also with pretty much exactly what you said lol but I figured that somebody would anyway and you have proven that assumption true. Seriously though, anybody making a big stink about this should read the underlying message in this post, which is quite simply, get over it and yourself.
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That is the biggest cricket I ever did see. Look at him eating that carrot like boss. I would own one as a pet in a second.
Also tweeting #ESPORTS at midnight later.
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On December 06 2011 05:28 Hrrrrm wrote:
His "experiment" will just prove how easily the system is gamed and that it has no real purpose since anyone with a coordinated effort can influence the system.
Yeah, the idea is to game the system. We are gamers, after all. : )
It won't mean that ESPORTS is the most popular thing in the universe (to the point it can trend whenever), but so what? The purpose of the experiment is to see if it can done sucessfully and, hey, if more people know about ESPORTS this way, what is the harm?
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On December 06 2011 03:48 Powdercake wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 03:39 Gamegene wrote:On December 05 2011 20:24 ELA wrote:
You have my sword! And my bow! And my axe!
And my E-peen
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On December 06 2011 06:02 Chicane wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 05:28 Hrrrrm wrote:On December 06 2011 04:01 VirgilSC2 wrote:On December 06 2011 03:38 skeldark wrote:On December 06 2011 03:32 VirgilSC2 wrote:On December 06 2011 03:28 skeldark wrote:
so let me repeat what you said :
"lets SPAM together to make something we like more popular..."
what about writing emails to everyone in the world with a story of a African king so that we can collect money for esport?
This is possibly the worst analogy ever conceived, and everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. One person sending 10,000 identical e-mails =/= 10,000 unique people sending one unique tweet. The idea is to spread the word about ESPORTS to people on Twitter who may not know that much about it. 1) you are able to rewrite something you read on the internet, congrats to this! it let you look very intelligent... At least you have one sentence with your own words. More than most other ... 2) so the idea is to advertise ESPORT by faking the twitter stats. Thats not really new, you call it SPAM. As good as the lets "vote up" on reddit. The goal is that more people who dont know about ESPORT know about it. So do you know how to make money without work? i want to bring this closer to you, pls pm my all your emails i will make sure your are on many spamlists so you get kind of unique mails form 10.000 people every day. It's not faking Twitter statistics if people are actually tweeting about it. JP is just asking people to tweet about it, same way Gary Danielson advertises tweeting with their #CBSFootball or whatever it is when I'm watching football on the weekends. It would be faking Twitter statistics if JP was asking people to make multiple Twitter accounts, and making multiple ones himself just spamming back and forth to eachother and retweeting himself hundreds of times. It's completely 100% legit to reach out to the community and say "Hey, let's spread the word and all tweet about this, the community already managed to get #GSL trending during the finals" It's one thing to ask people to twitter using whatever hashtag during the show if they have thoughts or opinions on the content. It's COMPLETELY DIFFERENT to what JP is about to do which is ask everyone to get their phones ready and web pages ready and all tweet something at that exact minute. "Ready guys? 3-2-1 TWEET! Har har har look we're trending! Long live #ESPORTS!!!" . His "experiment" will just prove how easily the system is gamed and that it has no real purpose since anyone with a coordinated effort can influence the system. I'll just reiterate, it's completely different when Tastosis ask people to twitter about the GSL throughout the event on their own and what JP is about to do which is a coordinated countdown to spam a certain message. If you can't see the difference, I don't know what to tell you. Wow you must not be fun at parties. I don't understand why you have such a strong moral opinion on getting a word to show up on a website... :O If a mom tells their child's soccer team that they will all get snacks if they win, are you the guy that would get up from your seat and start yelling "WHOA WHOA WHOA that is some bullshit. The other team isn't getting snacks, and yet you are trying to use an incentive to get them to play better. It wouldn't be a big deal if you would give them snacks regardless of if they won, but using it so that they play harder, then that is ridiculous! If you don't see the difference then I don't know what to tell you." Seriously though... get over it. There are SO many bigger problems with some actual relevance that you may want to consider devoting your energy towards.
Best fucking reply ever
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I shall be there my friend.
Geoff is gonna push you off of his soapbox if you keep this up sir. ^_^
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Start planning on what to write in your tweet people!
#ESPORST #SC2 This amazing Phenomenon called ESPORTS is on the horizon. Spread the love!<3
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On December 06 2011 07:18 LittLeD wrote:
Start planning on what to write in your tweet people!
#ESPORST #SC2 This amazing Phenomenon called ESPORTS is on the horizon. Spread the love!<3
FOR ESPORST
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On December 06 2011 06:02 Chicane wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 05:28 Hrrrrm wrote:On December 06 2011 04:01 VirgilSC2 wrote:On December 06 2011 03:38 skeldark wrote:On December 06 2011 03:32 VirgilSC2 wrote:On December 06 2011 03:28 skeldark wrote:
so let me repeat what you said :
"lets SPAM together to make something we like more popular..."
what about writing emails to everyone in the world with a story of a African king so that we can collect money for esport?
This is possibly the worst analogy ever conceived, and everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. One person sending 10,000 identical e-mails =/= 10,000 unique people sending one unique tweet. The idea is to spread the word about ESPORTS to people on Twitter who may not know that much about it. 1) you are able to rewrite something you read on the internet, congrats to this! it let you look very intelligent... At least you have one sentence with your own words. More than most other ... 2) so the idea is to advertise ESPORT by faking the twitter stats. Thats not really new, you call it SPAM. As good as the lets "vote up" on reddit. The goal is that more people who dont know about ESPORT know about it. So do you know how to make money without work? i want to bring this closer to you, pls pm my all your emails i will make sure your are on many spamlists so you get kind of unique mails form 10.000 people every day. It's not faking Twitter statistics if people are actually tweeting about it. JP is just asking people to tweet about it, same way Gary Danielson advertises tweeting with their #CBSFootball or whatever it is when I'm watching football on the weekends. It would be faking Twitter statistics if JP was asking people to make multiple Twitter accounts, and making multiple ones himself just spamming back and forth to eachother and retweeting himself hundreds of times. It's completely 100% legit to reach out to the community and say "Hey, let's spread the word and all tweet about this, the community already managed to get #GSL trending during the finals" It's one thing to ask people to twitter using whatever hashtag during the show if they have thoughts or opinions on the content. It's COMPLETELY DIFFERENT to what JP is about to do which is ask everyone to get their phones ready and web pages ready and all tweet something at that exact minute. "Ready guys? 3-2-1 TWEET! Har har har look we're trending! Long live #ESPORTS!!!" . His "experiment" will just prove how easily the system is gamed and that it has no real purpose since anyone with a coordinated effort can influence the system. I'll just reiterate, it's completely different when Tastosis ask people to twitter about the GSL throughout the event on their own and what JP is about to do which is a coordinated countdown to spam a certain message. If you can't see the difference, I don't know what to tell you. Wow you must not be fun at parties. I don't understand why you have such a strong moral opinion on getting a word to show up on a website... :O If a mom tells their child's soccer team that they will all get snacks if they win, are you the guy that would get up from your seat and start yelling "WHOA WHOA WHOA that is some bullshit. The other team isn't getting snacks, and yet you are trying to use an incentive to get them to play better. It wouldn't be a big deal if you would give them snacks regardless of if they won, but using it so that they play harder, then that is ridiculous! If you don't see the difference then I don't know what to tell you." Seriously though... get over it. There are SO many bigger problems with some actual relevance that you may want to consider devoting your energy towards.
lol and I don't understand why you have such a strong desire on getting a word to show up on a website.
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