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On January 06 2012 01:02 MasterJack wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2012 00:20 Naniwa wrote:On January 06 2012 00:07 TotalBiscuit wrote:On January 05 2012 23:31 Goibon wrote:On January 05 2012 23:16 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Common misconception, eSports would not exist in it's current form without casters. The money would not be there because the audience would not be there. eSports right now is very much reliant on casters and has been since beta, to bring in the audience required to justify the sponsorship dollars invested in the tournaments and provide the adequate return to ensure future investment continues. There is a synergy between players and casters that must exist for eSports to continue to The very idea that this might be true scares the shit out of me. It shouldn't be that way. It should be about the game and the players and the competition. People lifting trophies. People wanting to be like Huk. People cheering on their favourite player and Sponsors wanting to harness that emotion and hopefully discretionary dollar. But it's not. That's so depressing  I'm gonna stick my head in the sand. Don't mind me. I mute the majority of tournament streams nowadays anyway. No, it's not. It should be and eventually it will be, but right now, it's not. Players don't have large enough fanbases yet and considering the volatility of SC2 where a single game can knock a favourite out of a tournament entirely, the only constant you get is the casting team. Some casters do in fact, have larger fanbases than players, it's been this way from the very start. This same argument was had in beta about the importance of HD/Husky. think the most sad part is that you dont actually have to be good to be a popular caster / ' succesful ' caster. while you havet o dedicate everything as a player. Most of the casters dont even know about the game more than to a silver league level. Yeah, but you still have to dedicate everything to be a popular caster, even if that dedication is not solely focused 100% on game knowledge.
no you dont
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On January 05 2012 23:16 TotalBiscuit wrote:
You're too busy being a fucking idiot to have any idea what you're talking about and you probably shouldn't be pissing on the only caster who gives the vast majority of his earnings to the players if you don't want to seem like a colossal hypocrite. I do hope you attend an iSeries at some point, I'd like to see whether or not you'd have the balls to say that to my face. You are off to a stellar start on this forum, every post you've made his been dedicated to hating on me. You'll go far here.
I went as a spec to the last I series, ill quite happily go to the next one and tell if you if you wish, if you want we can have a conversation and I can explain why I think you're a terrible caster.
Its funny how good a job all the players who are dropping into the caster couch at homestory cup are doing eh TB ? something you have said wont happen.
Knowledge > screaming random crap out
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On January 06 2012 01:09 Naniwa wrote:
no you dont
Anyone can cast, there are very few who can do it well there are a lot of terrible popular casters though..
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On January 06 2012 01:28 steff wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 23:16 TotalBiscuit wrote:
You're too busy being a fucking idiot to have any idea what you're talking about and you probably shouldn't be pissing on the only caster who gives the vast majority of his earnings to the players if you don't want to seem like a colossal hypocrite. I do hope you attend an iSeries at some point, I'd like to see whether or not you'd have the balls to say that to my face. You are off to a stellar start on this forum, every post you've made his been dedicated to hating on me. You'll go far here. I went as a spec to the last I series, ill quite happily go to the next one and tell if you if you wish, if you want we can have a conversation and I can explain why I think you're a terrible caster. Its funny how good a job all the players who are dropping into the caster couch at homestory cup are doing eh TB ? something you have said wont happen. Knowledge > screaming random crap out
Oh please do come up to me next iSeries, I'd be impressed if the guy who registered on TL solely to hate on me had the balls to do so when he's not hiding behind a screen. I'd like to meet such a cunt, see how it acts in real life.
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On January 06 2012 01:37 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Oh please do come up to me next iSeries, I'd be impressed if the guy who registered on TL solely to hate on me had the balls to do so when he's not hiding behind a screen. I'd like to meet such a cunt, see how it acts in real life.
I registered a long time ago but generally dont do forums any more as there are so many turds on them, I did however call you terrible several times on SA before you stopped posting there (as everyone hates you).
Im an even bigger "cunt" in real life, make sure you bring your top hat and over exaggerated English accent so I can spot you.
PS it must be unfortunate for you not being able to bully or threaten someone into silence like you normal manage too \o/, next up would be some sort of protracted attempt to quit the community with some huge self serving post.
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On January 06 2012 01:41 steff wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2012 01:37 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Oh please do come up to me next iSeries, I'd be impressed if the guy who registered on TL solely to hate on me had the balls to do so when he's not hiding behind a screen. I'd like to meet such a cunt, see how it acts in real life. I registered a long time ago but generally dont do forums any more as there are so many turds on them, I did however call you terrible several times on SA before you stopped posting there (as everyone hates you). Im an even bigger "cunt" in real life, make sure you bring your top hat and over exaggerated English accent so I can spot you.
Nobody really cares what an ineffectual group of sperging neckbeards thinks about anything.
Do make sure to trim yours.
PS it must be unfortunate for you not being able to bully or threaten someone into silence like you normal manage too \o/, next up would be some sort of protracted attempt to quit the community with some huge self serving post.
You know what the wonderful thing about being vastly more important than you is? Whether or not you continue talking doesn't actually matter in any way. For you, the day I graced you with a response was the greatest day of your life, but for me, it was Thursday.
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On January 06 2012 01:37 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2012 01:28 steff wrote:On January 05 2012 23:16 TotalBiscuit wrote:
You're too busy being a fucking idiot to have any idea what you're talking about and you probably shouldn't be pissing on the only caster who gives the vast majority of his earnings to the players if you don't want to seem like a colossal hypocrite. I do hope you attend an iSeries at some point, I'd like to see whether or not you'd have the balls to say that to my face. You are off to a stellar start on this forum, every post you've made his been dedicated to hating on me. You'll go far here. I went as a spec to the last I series, ill quite happily go to the next one and tell if you if you wish, if you want we can have a conversation and I can explain why I think you're a terrible caster. Its funny how good a job all the players who are dropping into the caster couch at homestory cup are doing eh TB ? something you have said wont happen. Knowledge > screaming random crap out Oh please do come up to me next iSeries, I'd be impressed if the guy who registered on TL solely to hate on me had the balls to do so when he's not hiding behind a screen. I'd like to meet such a cunt, see how it acts in real life.
Why are you so very defensive and easily trolled? You do what you do, how hard can it be to ignore shit like this instead of acting like online tough guy calling people cunts and sprouting the tired of "say that to my face".
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On January 06 2012 01:44 karpo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2012 01:37 TotalBiscuit wrote:On January 06 2012 01:28 steff wrote:On January 05 2012 23:16 TotalBiscuit wrote:
You're too busy being a fucking idiot to have any idea what you're talking about and you probably shouldn't be pissing on the only caster who gives the vast majority of his earnings to the players if you don't want to seem like a colossal hypocrite. I do hope you attend an iSeries at some point, I'd like to see whether or not you'd have the balls to say that to my face. You are off to a stellar start on this forum, every post you've made his been dedicated to hating on me. You'll go far here. I went as a spec to the last I series, ill quite happily go to the next one and tell if you if you wish, if you want we can have a conversation and I can explain why I think you're a terrible caster. Its funny how good a job all the players who are dropping into the caster couch at homestory cup are doing eh TB ? something you have said wont happen. Knowledge > screaming random crap out Oh please do come up to me next iSeries, I'd be impressed if the guy who registered on TL solely to hate on me had the balls to do so when he's not hiding behind a screen. I'd like to meet such a cunt, see how it acts in real life. Why are you so very defensive and easily trolled? You do what you do, how hard can it be to ignore shit like this instead of acting like online tough guy calling people cunts and sprouting the tired of "say that to my face".
You seem to have mixed up defensive with offensive. He's a cunt, he's toxic to the community, he needs a good kicking. You wanna mistake that for "being trolled" go right ahead. In reality, he is as stupid as he makes himself out to be, he is not pretending, he is not the puppetmaster.
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On January 06 2012 01:44 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Nobody really cares what an ineffectual group of sperging neckbeards thinks about anything.
Do make sure to trim yours.
I don't think a bald freak who wears a top hat in everyday settings wants to be throwing around comments on physical appearance and its hard to play the you don't care card when your so rabidly posting.
You know what the wonderful thing about being vastly more important than you is? Whether or not you continue talking doesn't actually matter in any way. For you, the day I graced you with a response was the greatest day of your life, but for me, it was Thursday.
Street fighter quotes eh ? what a true legend you are
and well done on being an "important" joke, as someone that has a career I cant say im to bothered if im revered in internet circles any more been there done that got the T shirt.
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On January 06 2012 01:44 TotalBiscuit wrote:
You know what the wonderful thing about being vastly more important than you is? Whether or not you continue talking doesn't actually matter in any way. For you, the day I graced you with a response was the greatest day of your life, but for me, it was Thursday.
I <3 you TB
My money says this kid is just mad that his half-assed attempt into casting only got his mom and closest friends watching, so he's jealous of the closest person to his dreams (one of the most popular British sc casters). Keep up the good work Total Biscuit, I love your work.
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On January 06 2012 01:46 TotalBiscuit wrote:
You seem to have mixed up defensive with offensive. He's a cunt, he's toxic to the community, he needs a good kicking. You wanna mistake that for "being trolled" go right ahead. In reality, he is as stupid as he makes himself out to be, he is not pretending, he is not the puppetmaster.
I'm not really I just dislike you, so along with the players killing e-sports for wanting more money im now a toxic cunt for the community because I dislike you ?
When did the "community" put you in charge of how they are feeling ?
As for a good kicking, more threats huh ? I dont think you really want to threaten physical violence with your dimensions really do you ?
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On January 06 2012 01:48 steff wrote:
I don't think a bald freak who wears a top hat in everyday settings wants to be throwing around comments on physical appearance and its hard to play the you don't care card when your so rabidly posting.
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Nice contradiction there broseph. First you point out that I don't post on SA anymore and then you claim I'm rabidly posting and as such, care. Which is it? Make your addled mind up.
and well done on being an "important" joke, as someone that has a career I cant say im to bothered if im revered in internet circles any more been there done that got the T shirt.
Yes, generally people who have no influence or charisma of any description can't get jobs where their pay is determined by how many people that care about what they have to say. That's why you don't have one.
I'm not really I just dislike you, so along with the players killing e-sports for wanting more money im now a toxic cunt for the community because I dislike you ?
You have contributed nothing to the community other than negativity. Yes that makes you toxic.
When did the "community" put you in charge of how they are feeling ?
I don't need to be in charge of anything to point out that everything you've said on this forum up until this point has been unwelcome, bullshit negativity with no factual basis.
As for a good kicking, more threats huh ? I dont think you really want to threaten physical violence with your dimensions really do you ?
Somehow I doubt I'm dealing with a bodybuilder here. I doubt you're much of a threat.
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On January 06 2012 01:50 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Nice contradiction there broseph. First you point out that I don't post on SA anymore and then you claim I'm rabidly posting and as such, care. Which is it? Make your addled mind up.
My point was you rabidly posting here, I know you're utterly thick but do try to keep up and read before you roll your face on the keyboard to come up with a hamfisted response.
Yes, generally people who have no influence or charisma of any description can't get jobs where their pay is determined by how many people that care about what they have to say. That's why you don't have one.
Yep you have me dead to rights there I cannot get a job and im incredibly jealous (this is sarcasm btw, normally you dont need to point this out but you have proven yourself to be some special sort of thick), I wish I could be hated by huge parts of the community for how much of a shit caster I am I really do.
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On January 06 2012 01:53 steff wrote:
My point was you rabidly posting here, I know you're utterly thick but do try to keep up and read before you roll your face on the keyboard to come up with a hamfisted response.
Sorry if you're too retarded to see your own contradictions, but it ain't my problem.
Yep you have me dead to rights there I cannot get a job and im incredibly jealous (this is sarcasm btw, normally you dont need to point this out but you have proven yourself to be some special sort of thick), I wish I could be hated by huge parts of the community for how much of a shit caster I am I really do.
Ahh, delusional as well, excellent. Who was it that was telling me I didn't speak for the community again, then the next post you do just that? No big surprise, more hypocrisy from Captain Fuckstick over here.
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On January 06 2012 01:46 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2012 01:44 karpo wrote:On January 06 2012 01:37 TotalBiscuit wrote:On January 06 2012 01:28 steff wrote:On January 05 2012 23:16 TotalBiscuit wrote:
You're too busy being a fucking idiot to have any idea what you're talking about and you probably shouldn't be pissing on the only caster who gives the vast majority of his earnings to the players if you don't want to seem like a colossal hypocrite. I do hope you attend an iSeries at some point, I'd like to see whether or not you'd have the balls to say that to my face. You are off to a stellar start on this forum, every post you've made his been dedicated to hating on me. You'll go far here. I went as a spec to the last I series, ill quite happily go to the next one and tell if you if you wish, if you want we can have a conversation and I can explain why I think you're a terrible caster. Its funny how good a job all the players who are dropping into the caster couch at homestory cup are doing eh TB ? something you have said wont happen. Knowledge > screaming random crap out Oh please do come up to me next iSeries, I'd be impressed if the guy who registered on TL solely to hate on me had the balls to do so when he's not hiding behind a screen. I'd like to meet such a cunt, see how it acts in real life. Why are you so very defensive and easily trolled? You do what you do, how hard can it be to ignore shit like this instead of acting like online tough guy calling people cunts and sprouting the tired of "say that to my face". You seem to have mixed up defensive with offensive. He's a cunt, he's toxic to the community, he needs a good kicking. You wanna mistake that for "being trolled" go right ahead. In reality, he is as stupid as he makes himself out to be, he is not pretending, he is not the puppetmaster.
You're being trolled. Even though he might really think that you're a shit caster it's still totally unimportant yet you need to retort with "say that to my face", "neckbeard", and "cunt". Do you really think you've accomplished something or "kicked" him in any way?
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You have contributed nothing to the community other than negativity. Yes that makes you toxic.
You seem to think that trolling, abusing and threatening in real life people who dislike your inability to cast while at the same time critiquing players isnt toxic ? ok there superstar.
I don't need to be in charge of anything to point out that everything you've said on this forum up until this point has been unwelcome, bullshit negativity with no factual basis.
you being a bad caster and a terrible person seem to be quite factual from here
Somehow I doubt I'm dealing with a bodybuilder here. I doubt you're much of a threat.
yep well ill make sure I come along to the next I series and then you can asses it there ill look for the 5'8 freak with the top hat.
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On January 06 2012 01:55 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Sorry if you're too retarded to see your own contradictions, but it ain't my problem.
There is no contradiction in what I said Mr Straw Man, you really need to learn how do this forum stuff you're as bad at this as you are at sc2 and casting
Ahh, delusional as well, excellent. Who was it that was telling me I didn't speak for the community again, then the next post you do just that? No big surprise, more hypocrisy from Captain Fuckstick over here.
I read posts day and night about how much people hate your casting from vast swathes of the community, just relaying what ive seen here
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On January 06 2012 01:56 steff wrote:
You seem to think that trolling, abusing and threatening in real life people who dislike your inability to cast while at the same time critiquing players isnt toxic ? ok there superstar.
Tell me, what kind of high-functioning delusion is required to allow you to make comments like that and utterly ignore everything you've said up until this point? I can't imagine.
you being a bad caster and a terrible person seem to be quite factual from here
Among the many things you've shown little knowledge about, "facts" is high on the list.
yep well ill make sure I come along to the next I series and then you can asses it there ill look for the 5'8 freak with the top hat.
Not so good with height either I see. Let's see how long you last before everyone kicks the shit out of you for being a colossal cunt.
I read posts day and night about how much people hate your casting from vast swathes of the community, just relaying what ive seen here
What an exciting life you lead
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On January 06 2012 01:56 karpo wrote:
You're being trolled. Even though he might really think that you're a shit caster it's still totally unimportant yet you need to retort with "say that to my face", "neckbeard", and "cunt". Do you really think you've accomplished something or "kicked" him in any way?
Worst most unprofessional caster in the buisness acting in an unprofessional manner ? and you act surprised, I thought "im going to fight you unless you shut up" stuff had died out about 10 years ago, but it surfaces again.
I mean this pillar of the community is threatening someone (the wrong person to) with physical violence over forum comments.
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