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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 15:26:21
November 16 2011 15:25 GMT
#161
On November 17 2011 00:16 Spicy_Curry wrote:
They obviously got Zenio to foster the TL-EG rivalry. He is the anti-idra rofl.


Anti-idra or not, i wonder if he can "dominate" Idra in ZvZ anymore. Idra is pretty solid, but on the otherhand so is(or was) Zenio as far as i remember.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
CDR
Profile Joined April 2011
Poland84 Posts
November 16 2011 15:28 GMT
#162
On November 17 2011 00:10 pAzand wrote:
In the universe where he beats Boxer 2-1 and Sjow 2-0 in the last couple of MLG's... Oh wait, it's this one.
Name even 10 zergs that's better than Haypro in Europe? Stephano, Nerchio, Ret, Morrow, maybe Orly?
And oh yeah, the other guy didn't say he was in Code S. Ofc he's a top level player, he's top ~30 foreigner overall imo.

Stephano, Nerchio, Ret, Morrow, Dimaga, Paranoid, Tefel, Delphi, HappyZerg aka Slavik, Snute... That's 10. He only plays at the MLG because he earned a seed, otherwise he wouldn't play even there. I can't even measure his skill level, because he doesn't participate in any tournaments.
Wow, he won a bo3 with Boxer and Sjow, amazing. Any other important wins against top lvl players? Nope, he lost even with Machine.
Top 30 foreign, lol. TLPD rank - 209th :D And absolutely no results. But yeah, he is on Team Liquid, he must be a top player!


MuK_x
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
743 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 15:31:26
November 16 2011 15:29 GMT
#163
5 zerg? >.<

HerO,Jinro,Zenio,ret/sheth is solid roster.

but need another terran player~
IdrA "TT1 actually fucked up and didn't see the hatchery,so im at a really big advantage right now,assuming he reacts intelligently which is not something you should assume with TT1"
HuKPOWA
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1604 Posts
November 16 2011 15:31 GMT
#164
On November 17 2011 00:28 CDR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 00:10 pAzand wrote:
In the universe where he beats Boxer 2-1 and Sjow 2-0 in the last couple of MLG's... Oh wait, it's this one.
Name even 10 zergs that's better than Haypro in Europe? Stephano, Nerchio, Ret, Morrow, maybe Orly?
And oh yeah, the other guy didn't say he was in Code S. Ofc he's a top level player, he's top ~30 foreigner overall imo.

Stephano, Nerchio, Ret, Morrow, Dimaga, Paranoid, Tefel, Delphi, HappyZerg aka Slavik, Snute... That's 10. He only plays at the MLG because he earned a seed, otherwise he wouldn't play even there. I can't even measure his skill level, because he doesn't participate in any tournaments.
Wow, he won a bo3 with Boxer and Sjow, amazing. Any other important wins against top lvl players? Nope, he lost even with Machine.
Top 30 foreign, lol. TLPD rank - 209th :D And absolutely no results. But yeah, he is on Team Liquid, he must be a top player!




Very knowledgeable, ur very thin knowledge of what defines skill amazes me *trollface*

If its true grats to Zenio :D HuK left (Idra's other rival) so now we need Liquid to have another Idra Rival!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Big-t
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1350 Posts
November 16 2011 15:32 GMT
#165
Why is TL taking a Z? A P or T would be way better....

But anyway, good pick up.
monchi | IdrA | Flash
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
November 16 2011 15:32 GMT
#166
Yea, we've known this since the silhouette was zenio's oGs picture. But nice for some 100% confirmation. The addition of Zenio to TL is pretty puzzling though as TL has 4(?) zergs already and Zenio doesn't seem to fit in with TL at all...
pAzand
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden539 Posts
November 16 2011 15:33 GMT
#167
On November 17 2011 00:28 CDR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 00:10 pAzand wrote:
In the universe where he beats Boxer 2-1 and Sjow 2-0 in the last couple of MLG's... Oh wait, it's this one.
Name even 10 zergs that's better than Haypro in Europe? Stephano, Nerchio, Ret, Morrow, maybe Orly?
And oh yeah, the other guy didn't say he was in Code S. Ofc he's a top level player, he's top ~30 foreigner overall imo.

Stephano, Nerchio, Ret, Morrow, Dimaga, Paranoid, Tefel, Delphi, HappyZerg aka Slavik, Snute... That's 10. He only plays at the MLG because he earned a seed, otherwise he wouldn't play even there. I can't even measure his skill level, because he doesn't participate in any tournaments.
Wow, he won a bo3 with Boxer and Sjow, amazing. Any other important wins against top lvl players? Nope, he lost even with Machine.
Top 30 foreign, lol. TLPD rank - 209th :D And absolutely no results. But yeah, he is on Team Liquid, he must be a top player!




So, any notable results from Paranoid, Tefel, Delphi, Slavik and Snute? Not talking about online weeklies.
If you can chill.. Chill!
Wren
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States745 Posts
November 16 2011 15:36 GMT
#168
On November 16 2011 21:22 archonOOid wrote:
is artosis a tl insider?

No, he just reads reddit. Don't take his word as a guarantee of anything.
We're here! We're queer! We don't want any more bears!
QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
November 16 2011 15:37 GMT
#169
Go Zenio!
"Trash Micro but Win. Its Marin." - Min Chul
bootyclapthunder
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States82 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 15:38:55
November 16 2011 15:38 GMT
#170
I thought Haypro had performance issues. He is a representative of Team Liquid and has not met current public expectations. I hope he still will remain close to the team. I am thoroughly excited to view Zenio in a Team Liquid jersey.
hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
November 16 2011 15:40 GMT
#171
Didn't everyone know this already?
On November 16 2011 21:23 nihoh wrote:
Did he leave OGS or was kicked out? Or was he transferred Hero-style?

He didn't want to live in the team house for whatever reason, so he probably tried to switch and allow for more leniency.
brian2sk8t
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States192 Posts
November 16 2011 15:40 GMT
#172
Thats really interesting. That makes two koreans on their team now.
Wasting time is such a waste of time
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
November 16 2011 15:41 GMT
#173
Disappointing. I was really hoping for a Terran, not a Code B Zerg.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
November 16 2011 15:41 GMT
#174
Does anybody, like, have a link?
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
November 16 2011 15:42 GMT
#175
On November 17 2011 00:41 Zzoram wrote:
Disappointing. I was really hoping for a Terran, not a Code B Zerg.


Lol, until recently he was Code S, but k...
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
November 16 2011 15:42 GMT
#176
On November 17 2011 00:28 CDR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 00:10 pAzand wrote:
In the universe where he beats Boxer 2-1 and Sjow 2-0 in the last couple of MLG's... Oh wait, it's this one.
Name even 10 zergs that's better than Haypro in Europe? Stephano, Nerchio, Ret, Morrow, maybe Orly?
And oh yeah, the other guy didn't say he was in Code S. Ofc he's a top level player, he's top ~30 foreigner overall imo.

Stephano, Nerchio, Ret, Morrow, Dimaga, Paranoid, Tefel, Delphi, HappyZerg aka Slavik, Snute... That's 10. He only plays at the MLG because he earned a seed, otherwise he wouldn't play even there. I can't even measure his skill level, because he doesn't participate in any tournaments.
Wow, he won a bo3 with Boxer and Sjow, amazing. Any other important wins against top lvl players? Nope, he lost even with Machine.
Top 30 foreign, lol. TLPD rank - 209th :D And absolutely no results. But yeah, he is on Team Liquid, he must be a top player!



That isn't very convincing at all. First, TLPD rank isn't really meaningful or the so-called top foreigners like Huk, Idra, Select, Naniwa, etc. would all be at the top and they aren't. Actually, some pretty silly players are in the top 50.

And what have Paranoid, Tefel, Delphi, and Snute done? I haven't seen them at any major tournaments and haven't heard of them winning anything. Maybe they have a few online cup titles, but that's entirely meaningless.

Haypro isn't really that good, but I'd absolutely put him above half the players you listed.
thesideshow
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
930 Posts
November 16 2011 15:43 GMT
#177
If artosis was just trolling us and it turns out to be someone completely different, that would be so awesome lol.
OGS:levelchange
Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
November 16 2011 15:43 GMT
#178
Pure speculation here.

+ Show Spoiler +
Zenio left the team house because he wanted to train from home. oGs doesn't allow that. Now that he's on Liquid, there is that probability that he actually wants to go back to the team house and train. Where does that motivation come from? And this coincides with another new recruit joining oGs!


Kidding, of course.
CDR
Profile Joined April 2011
Poland84 Posts
November 16 2011 15:43 GMT
#179
On November 17 2011 00:33 pAzand wrote:
So, any notable results from Paranoid, Tefel, Delphi, Slavik and Snute? Not talking about online weeklies.

Constant results in online weeklies with top eu players > getting owned at the MLG. EOT from my side, unless you have any evidence that haypro is a top lvl player, other that 2 BO3 during last year.

BTW I wonder what is wrong with people here, who claim that Destiny, Incontrol, Haypro or other "I don't have any results but I'm popular" players are top lvl foreigners.
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
November 16 2011 15:47 GMT
#180
On November 17 2011 00:28 CDR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 00:10 pAzand wrote:
In the universe where he beats Boxer 2-1 and Sjow 2-0 in the last couple of MLG's... Oh wait, it's this one.
Name even 10 zergs that's better than Haypro in Europe? Stephano, Nerchio, Ret, Morrow, maybe Orly?
And oh yeah, the other guy didn't say he was in Code S. Ofc he's a top level player, he's top ~30 foreigner overall imo.

Stephano, Nerchio, Ret, Morrow, Dimaga, Paranoid, Tefel, Delphi, HappyZerg aka Slavik, Snute... That's 10. He only plays at the MLG because he earned a seed, otherwise he wouldn't play even there. I can't even measure his skill level, because he doesn't participate in any tournaments.
Wow, he won a bo3 with Boxer and Sjow, amazing. Any other important wins against top lvl players? Nope, he lost even with Machine.
Top 30 foreign, lol. TLPD rank - 209th :D And absolutely no results. But yeah, he is on Team Liquid, he must be a top player!




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