EPTOn November 17 2011 00:47 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Why do you not name Darkforce?!
He is pretty good.
Why do you not name Darkforce?!
He is pretty good.
Yep, my mistake.
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CDR
Poland84 Posts
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Bojas
Netherlands2397 Posts
On November 17 2011 00:28 CDR wrote: Stephano, Nerchio, Ret, Morrow, Dimaga, Paranoid, Tefel, Delphi, HappyZerg aka Slavik, Snute... That's 10. He only plays at the MLG because he earned a seed, otherwise he wouldn't play even there. I can't even measure his skill level, because he doesn't participate in any tournaments. Wow, he won a bo3 with Boxer and Sjow, amazing. Any other important wins against top lvl players? Nope, he lost even with Machine. Top 30 foreign, lol. TLPD rank - 209th :D And absolutely no results. But yeah, he is on Team Liquid, he must be a top player!  Quite a few are better then him but half of the zergs you have written down aren't better then him. Online tournaments =/= lan. And even then lots of them are worse then him I think, but that's not objectively compareable. | ||
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hmunkey
United Kingdom1973 Posts
On November 17 2011 00:43 CDR wrote: Constant results in online weeklies with top eu players > getting owned at the MLG. EOT from my side, unless you have any evidence that haypro is a top lvl player, other that 2 BO3 during last year. BTW I wonder what is wrong with people here, who claim that Destiny, Incontrol, Haypro or other "I don't have any results but I'm popular" players are top lvl foreigners. No one is saying Destiny, Incontrol, or Haypro are top-level. We're saying they're at the same level if not better than those no-names you listed off. Idra is top-level. Huk is top-level. Stephano is top-level. None of that is being contested. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10806 Posts
On November 17 2011 00:42 hmunkey wrote: That isn't very convincing at all. First, TLPD rank isn't really meaningful or the so-called top foreigners like Huk, Idra, Select, Naniwa, etc. would all be at the top and they aren't. Actually, some pretty silly players are in the top 50. And what have Paranoid, Tefel, Delphi, and Snute done? I haven't seen them at any major tournaments and haven't heard of them winning anything. Maybe they have a few online cup titles, but that's entirely meaningless. Haypro isn't really that good, but I'd absolutely put him above half the players you listed. Ahm. TLPD is pretty good? Right now i look at the top five and who do i see there? Stephano, Mana, Sase, idra, Kas... What else do you want? Players that haven't done anything in ages showing up just because you like them or what? BTW: Howis winning a few online titles meaningless while winning nothing AND not placing high at live events (MLG, thanks to its format, counts for shit at this, at least for the rest of this season) AND not winning these online cups when participating counts for something? In what world do you actually live? | ||
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Perfect
United States322 Posts
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
On November 17 2011 00:42 GhandiEAGLE wrote: Lol, until recently he was Code S, but k... My mistake, I thought he fell off harder than he did. | ||
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O3
Singapore99 Posts
 He is probably stabbing himself for this freudian slip. Can't wait for the reveal plus the new jerseys!! | ||
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pAzand
Sweden539 Posts
On November 17 2011 00:43 CDR wrote: Constant results in online weeklies with top eu players > getting owned at the MLG. EOT from my side, unless you have any evidence that haypro is a top lvl player, other that 2 BO3 during last year. BTW I wonder what is wrong with people here, who claim that Destiny, Incontrol, Haypro or other "I don't have any results but I'm popular" players are top lvl foreigners. If you acctually watch Haypro play you wouldn't put him in the same category as Incontrol and Destiny (who I haven't mentioned, why bring 'em up?)... Haypro didn't get owned last MLG you silly tool. 1-2 vs Idra and losses vs Marineking and Polt isn't shameful results for a top foreigner zerg by any means. He won against Boxer, Drewbie and TLO who all are decent players (Boxer way above decent). Edit: Oh and notable results overall? He's one of the only foreigners that acctually got to Code A via the offline qualifiers. He's consistently not making a fool of himself at MLG and you know what? Stephano lost against Boxer the day after Haypro beat him, that must mean Stephano is worse with your logic. Watch him play, he's a top player but haven't showed any major wins lately but you know what? It's freaking hard to win MLG if you haven't noticed. | ||
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Yaki
France4234 Posts
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LovE-
United States1963 Posts
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Grettin
42381 Posts
On November 17 2011 00:49 Perfect wrote: I would love to see an official thread Here is a "official" thread, since NOTHING has been announced or confirmed yet. | ||
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Vorenius
Denmark1979 Posts
On November 17 2011 00:53 pAzand wrote: If you acctually watch Haypro play you wouldn't put him in the same category as Incontrol and Destiny (who I haven't mentioned, why bring 'em up?)... Haypro didn't get owned last MLG you silly tool. 1-2 vs Idra and losses vs Marineking and Polt isn't shameful results for a top foreigner zerg by any means. He won against Boxer, Drewbie and TLO who all are decent players (Boxer way above decent). Not just that but he has consistently been winning games in group play. He's no where close to other players who go 0-5 every time and get by on one lucky run earlier. He's never gone 0-5 in any MLG. He's placed second in his group behind only Losira and then 3rd the most recent MLG behind Idra and MKP. While in it self not fantastic results, defenitly nothing to be ashamed of. And infinitly more impressive than half the names CDR mentioned. | ||
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Surriel
United Kingdom198 Posts
Speaking of which Jinro has been really quiet recently, I hope to see more from him soon. | ||
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Josri
Netherlands219 Posts
On November 17 2011 00:58 Grettin wrote: Here is a "official" thread, since NOTHING has been announced or confirmed yet. Official thread will be made on the 21th. | ||
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tossuaway
United States107 Posts
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CDR
Poland84 Posts
On November 17 2011 00:53 pAzand wrote: If you acctually watch Haypro play you wouldn't put him in the same category as Incontrol and Destiny (who I haven't mentioned, why bring 'em up?)... Haypro didn't get owned last MLG you silly tool. 1-2 vs Idra and losses vs Marineking and Polt isn't shameful results for a top foreigner zerg by any means. He won against Boxer, Drewbie and TLO who all are decent players (Boxer way above decent). Yep, Drewbie and TLO are decent. That's why MKP took Drewbie so seriously that he nuked his own army. Losses vs MKP and Polt aren't shameful for a top players, neither they are for a midtier Haypro. So Your point is that Haypro is a top foreign zerg because he has beaten Drewbie and TLO, who are as bad as he is, won 1 bo3 with Boxer and lost to Idra, MKP and Polt. How is that logic? Losing to MKP proves anything (who was fooling around with people like Haypro)? Any of players that I mentioned would beat TLO and Drewbie or won 1 bo3 with Boxer. I would love to watch Haypro play, but he ain't playing in any tournaments and I don't care about his ladder stream. I bring'em up to show a pattern of typical TL user thought process. | ||
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Elite__
Canada976 Posts
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Arcanne
United States1519 Posts
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GeorgeForeman
United States1746 Posts
On November 17 2011 00:53 pAzand wrote: If you acctually watch Haypro play you wouldn't put him in the same category as Incontrol and Destiny (who I haven't mentioned, why bring 'em up?)... Haypro didn't get owned last MLG you silly tool. 1-2 vs Idra and losses vs Marineking and Polt isn't shameful results for a top foreigner zerg by any means. He won against Boxer, Drewbie and TLO who all are decent players (Boxer way above decent). Edit: Oh and notable results overall? He's one of the only foreigners that acctually got to Code A via the offline qualifiers. He's consistently not making a fool of himself at MLG and you know what? Stephano lost against Boxer the day after Haypro beat him, that must mean Stephano is worse with your logic. Watch him play, he's a top player but haven't showed any major wins lately but you know what? It's freaking hard to win MLG if you haven't noticed. BUT HE HASN'T WON GO4SC2#86243! Seriously, though. Hayder takes games off Koreans. He's a top-teir player by any reasonable definition. And you can't discount his placing in the top 16 of the MLG rankigns this year. Plenty of other players have gone to all of the events but not placed as well as he did. While he never finished in the top of his group, he consistently won games and maintained his position unlike other players. He's solid but thus far unspectacular. Why people got to bag on him constantly? On November 17 2011 01:05 CDR wrote:Any of players that I mentioned would beat TLO and Drewbie or won 1 bo3 with Boxer. Based on what, your intuition? Common, guy. | ||
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QTIP.
United States2113 Posts
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