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MVP, NesTea, MKP to MLG Providence - Page 22

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how2TL
Profile Joined August 2010
1197 Posts
November 11 2011 04:20 GMT
#421
On November 11 2011 12:39 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2011 12:37 SniXSniPe wrote:
If MVP wins... would anyone argue with him being called a bonjwa?


He might be the best player but I don't think he's at the level of domination yet, he still loses to somewhat "random" players (even if they are Code S). Maybe after a few more months since it's been barely a year.

If only there were a lot of zergs in GSL instead of terran lol, it's unfortunate that Nestea's ZvZ is so good even though there's been so few zergs, even now there aren't that many.


1. Stop responding to "bonjwa?" posts because they're fucking stupid.
2. Flash loses to randoms too. In starleagues even. So while I don't think there should be any SC2 "bonjwa" discussion, your argument sucks anyway.
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2717 Posts
November 11 2011 04:22 GMT
#422
On November 11 2011 12:48 SniXSniPe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2011 12:39 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On November 11 2011 12:37 SniXSniPe wrote:
If MVP wins... would anyone argue with him being called a bonjwa?


He might be the best player but I don't think he's at the level of domination yet, he still loses to somewhat "random" players (even if they are Code S). Maybe after a few more months since it's been barely a year.

If only there were a lot of zergs in GSL instead of terran lol, it's unfortunate that Nestea's ZvZ is so good even though there's been so few zergs, even now there aren't that many.



+ Show Spoiler +
NesTea lost to BBoong 2-0... :/


Nobody finishes first for everything. Even Flash during his "dominant" era's finished 2nd in a couple of tournaments besides his golds.

He has so many major tournament wins, 8 golds and 3 silvers is pretty damn impressive.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Mvp_(player)

MVP has a 70% win ratio for International + Korean tournament games counted, with a total of 216-217 games. I think this is by far the best ratio per game numbers out of anyone (actually, Stephano's is pretty impressive, though you'd have to admit there is a difference in the players they have played against).


It's close to a year now, and if he wins MLG Providence then I will have no doubt he is the first.... Though I suppose some people will want him to dominate for longer than a year before calling him in the "b" word.


Yeah Flash's "dominance" was kind of shabby. I mean out of the 6 major tournaments in Korea that year he only won 4 while getting 2 silvers... for a sc2 player to reach Flash's status in bw he would have to win a shitload of tournaments in a row.

Still MVP is the favorite in Providence while being the most dominant player currently. Nevertheless, he still needs to show solid performances for a while until he can be considered a bonjwa.
Acidrain77
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada11 Posts
November 11 2011 04:25 GMT
#423
Drewbie is Canadian!!!
DeadCell
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada256 Posts
November 11 2011 04:28 GMT
#424
Yeah Drewbie is OURS!

SO many Korean pros!

I'm really happy to see LosirA and NesTea are going
If it comes down to you or them, send flowers.
VPCursed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
1044 Posts
November 11 2011 04:29 GMT
#425
i just found out im working the whole weekend of mlg... SIGH
Dukat
Profile Joined April 2009
United States235 Posts
November 11 2011 04:34 GMT
#426
I am going to need another artbook to collect signatures in. One isn't going to hold them all.
OhMyGawd
Profile Joined February 2011
United States264 Posts
November 11 2011 04:38 GMT
#427
Is it me or is this the greatest line up in sc2 history?
zomg
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
November 11 2011 04:42 GMT
#428
On November 11 2011 13:38 OhMyGawd wrote:
Is it me or is this the greatest line up in sc2 history?


hands down. never seen such a baller lineup. and ill be in korea for business so i cant watch shit. FML
Jacob666
Profile Joined January 2011
United States285 Posts
November 11 2011 04:43 GMT
#429
holy shit



Thats all i can say.
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-11 04:44:01
November 11 2011 04:43 GMT
#430
Koreans coming out in force.

NA mustering every player they've got.

European stars staying at home.
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
November 11 2011 04:46 GMT
#431
MLG did an amazing job courting the Koreans and getting them to participate in this. They somehow have to manage the same for the Europeans. More incentives, more rewards, something.

I glance at the top 5 non-Korean players in the TLPD sidebar and am sad that no one is there at MLG.
Anktious
Profile Joined September 2010
United States190 Posts
November 11 2011 04:55 GMT
#432
On November 11 2011 13:38 OhMyGawd wrote:
Is it me or is this the greatest line up in sc2 history?



Most definitely. I will take vacation days from work to watch as much of this as humanly possible. This is destined to be THE MOST EPIC TOURNAMENT EVER!!



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Unless they have lag/connection issues =( that would suck
On January 23 2009 04:38 {88}iNcontroL wrote: I hate it when i sit at my computer and post on this forum when suddenly my dick launches out of my pants and makes me type incorrectly.. starts mashing ont h legnskzsnmklbf oh fuck there we go again.
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-11 05:09:30
November 11 2011 05:08 GMT
#433
On November 11 2011 10:32 cold- wrote:
why do you put select as a korean?

Because that's his nationality.

On November 11 2011 11:09 pPingu wrote:
lol, more koreans registered than americans

looking forward to it

That's only the notables. There are over 230 NA players signed up. :D Most are just unknown Master players instead of known pros.
AnonymousXV
Profile Joined May 2011
United States45 Posts
November 11 2011 05:14 GMT
#434
wheres destiny
Anktious
Profile Joined September 2010
United States190 Posts
November 11 2011 05:17 GMT
#435
On November 11 2011 14:14 AnonymousXV wrote:
wheres destiny



Not sure if trolling, but he's number 89.
On January 23 2009 04:38 {88}iNcontroL wrote: I hate it when i sit at my computer and post on this forum when suddenly my dick launches out of my pants and makes me type incorrectly.. starts mashing ont h legnskzsnmklbf oh fuck there we go again.
Keone
Profile Joined April 2011
United States812 Posts
November 11 2011 05:20 GMT
#436
On November 11 2011 13:22 ggrrg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2011 12:48 SniXSniPe wrote:
On November 11 2011 12:39 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On November 11 2011 12:37 SniXSniPe wrote:
If MVP wins... would anyone argue with him being called a bonjwa?


He might be the best player but I don't think he's at the level of domination yet, he still loses to somewhat "random" players (even if they are Code S). Maybe after a few more months since it's been barely a year.

If only there were a lot of zergs in GSL instead of terran lol, it's unfortunate that Nestea's ZvZ is so good even though there's been so few zergs, even now there aren't that many.



+ Show Spoiler +
NesTea lost to BBoong 2-0... :/


Nobody finishes first for everything. Even Flash during his "dominant" era's finished 2nd in a couple of tournaments besides his golds.

He has so many major tournament wins, 8 golds and 3 silvers is pretty damn impressive.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Mvp_(player)

MVP has a 70% win ratio for International + Korean tournament games counted, with a total of 216-217 games. I think this is by far the best ratio per game numbers out of anyone (actually, Stephano's is pretty impressive, though you'd have to admit there is a difference in the players they have played against).


It's close to a year now, and if he wins MLG Providence then I will have no doubt he is the first.... Though I suppose some people will want him to dominate for longer than a year before calling him in the "b" word.


Yeah Flash's "dominance" was kind of shabby. I mean out of the 6 major tournaments in Korea that year he only won 4 while getting 2 silvers... for a sc2 player to reach Flash's status in bw he would have to win a shitload of tournaments in a row.

Still MVP is the favorite in Providence while being the most dominant player currently. Nevertheless, he still needs to show solid performances for a while until he can be considered a bonjwa.

Are people honestly comparing MVP to... Flash?

MVP can't even lick Oov/Nada/Boxer's shoes in terms of their true dominance, regardless of their current level in SC2. Let me give you a hint. Bonjwas are decided when everyone collectively agrees that the person is bonjwa, regardless of stats. Or else Jaedong, JulyZerg, and tons of other players would have achieved "bonjwa" status already, but they have not.
BW Forever. Flash is the Ultimate Bonjwa.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
November 11 2011 05:27 GMT
#437
Second translator just announced: Hwani!!!!! <3
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
-ZiG-
Profile Joined November 2010
United States84 Posts
November 11 2011 05:51 GMT
#438
this mlg is gonna be so sick!!
Lets ride
ThatGuyDoMo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia516 Posts
November 11 2011 05:55 GMT
#439
Holy shiz look at all those Koreans
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10383 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-11 06:06:15
November 11 2011 05:59 GMT
#440
On November 11 2011 13:20 how2TL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2011 12:39 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On November 11 2011 12:37 SniXSniPe wrote:
If MVP wins... would anyone argue with him being called a bonjwa?


He might be the best player but I don't think he's at the level of domination yet, he still loses to somewhat "random" players (even if they are Code S). Maybe after a few more months since it's been barely a year.

If only there were a lot of zergs in GSL instead of terran lol, it's unfortunate that Nestea's ZvZ is so good even though there's been so few zergs, even now there aren't that many.


1. Stop responding to "bonjwa?" posts because they're fucking stupid.
2. Flash loses to randoms too. In starleagues even. So while I don't think there should be any SC2 "bonjwa" discussion, your argument sucks anyway.


1. You just did o.o. I'll do what I want, thanks.
2. No, because in BW winning is much more consistent, while in SC2 winning is less consistent but those who win win a LOT more than the 60-70% ish that bonjwas have in BW.

I like how you argue, and then say that someone else's argument sucks. He lost in that Starleague after he got bonjwa status, so that doesn't count.

Of course, all these numbers don't mean much since everyone looks at them differently, for example who they play against, taking stats only from certain tournies ("important" ones), etc.
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
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