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Battle in Berlin 2011 - Players, Brackets and more - Page 9

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Kompicek
Profile Joined May 2008
Czech Republic245 Posts
November 09 2011 17:09 GMT
#161
On November 10 2011 00:07 Chvol wrote:
What happened to Morrow? I haven't seen him in any of these tournaments in ages.

I was thinking the same, what is with morrow lately?
AzBozz
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany518 Posts
November 09 2011 17:09 GMT
#162
only one terran T_T not like zvp pvp and zvz soo much
MMA | MVP|Teaja|Polt|MKP|Byun|Maru|Thorzain|Creator|HasuObs|Socke|Lucifron|Vortix|Mana|Heromarine / PRIME and Mousesports fighting!!
Jedclark
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom903 Posts
November 09 2011 17:10 GMT
#163
I think Stephano will win, in a Stephano/Socke finals.
"They make it so scrubnubs can PM me. They make it so I can't ignore scrubnubs!" - "I'm gonna show you how great I am." MKP fan since GSL Open Season 2 #hipsternerd
zYwi3c
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland1811 Posts
November 09 2011 17:12 GMT
#164
On November 10 2011 02:09 Kompicek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 00:07 Chvol wrote:
What happened to Morrow? I haven't seen him in any of these tournaments in ages.

I was thinking the same, what is with morrow lately?


He is making Custom Micro Maps.
I'm getting the derection.
loginn
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France815 Posts
November 09 2011 17:27 GMT
#165
On November 10 2011 00:24 Zalitara wrote:
White-Ra vs Socke final. I am calling it. White-Ra (somehow) seems to always take out TLO, and he can pull something weird out for a BO3 win against stephano. Socke is the kind of player that can dissapoint for a while and then suddenly come in and take out everyone, I think this tournament will be like that, especially because this format reminds me of the SHOUTcraft invitational which Socke has won twice in a row now.


Mmh. White-Ra vs Stephano, if it happens, will be BO5 so I really don't see White-Ra taking it.
I think Stephano should win the whole thing
Stephano, Taking skill to the bank since IPL3. Also Lucifron and FBH
SoniC_eu
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark1008 Posts
November 09 2011 17:37 GMT
#166
I hope TLO commentates
In order to succeed, your desire for success should be greater than your fear of failure. http://da.twitch.tv/sonic_eu
careohx
Profile Joined June 2011
263 Posts
November 09 2011 17:53 GMT
#167
People underestimate Kas when he is actually a beast. If you watched EG Masters cup you know what im talking about. So if Stephano beats Grubby ( who got exponentally better lately ) i predict a Stephano vs Kas finals .

Not long ago Stephano 3 - 0 Nerchio in MSI pro cup finals and Ret has a pretty bad ZvZ so i think only Kas has a real shot at Stephano.
rekoJ
Profile Joined June 2011
Afghanistan106 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 17:54:28
November 09 2011 17:53 GMT
#168
Everybody seems to forget Kas on pronostic? He is just number 1 on the EU ladder....

Semi finals :
Kas - Nerchio
Stephano - TLO

Final : Kas - Stephano

Winner : Kas the lonely terran, he will handle stress this time I hope
Meantime
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany140 Posts
November 09 2011 18:12 GMT
#169
TLO fighting!

Also, nice "Battlefield 3-esque" teaser :D
I've been thinking what to do wit' my future. I could be a mud doctor. Checkin' out the eart'. Underneat'
Seph02
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands221 Posts
November 09 2011 18:20 GMT
#170
Every tournament has it's upsets, I expect this tournament to have one aswell.

I think Stephano will have one of his toughest matches this year, against Grubby. I believe you can consider Stephano, Dimaga and Nerchio the three best Europeans zerg, if not the best foreign Zergs at the moment(along with Idra). Grubby has been winning matches against Nerchio and recently won from Dimaga by 3-0. Therefore expecting a 2-1 win for Grubby.

Prediction:

Nerchio > Socke
Ret > Kas
Grubby > Stephano
White-Ra > TLO

Grubby > White-Ra
Nerchio > Ret

Grubby > Nerchio (probably 4-3..since their matches are generally so close)
Starcraft is for life
WallieP
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands425 Posts
November 09 2011 18:25 GMT
#171
On November 10 2011 01:25 Special Endrey wrote:
update

+ Show Spoiler +
hey all,


ALL games will be casted. The first one will be done all by myself (I doubt a player wants to cast before he even has played).

I said it's unfortunate because commentators should also be good hosts in terms of presentation etc. and having 2 instead of one is also a good thing to go for.

We replaced the picture with grubby (old EG one) with a new suitable one. When the picture was made yesterday, I wasnt paying too much attention because I'm very sick atm (my thyroid gland is shutting down but I can't start taking new medication, because of unknown side effects and I need to be at least able to be there on site - I mean, we have worked so hard for months to get to this point and we simply can't allow this whole thing to fail)

Our Money, Our Reputation - Our Everything is on the line here.




I wish you good luck with your health, take care of it, since its pretty important! Still good job for changing the pic, really looking forward for this event, ill be a spectator for sure@!
i came i saw i conquered
michielbrands
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1146 Posts
November 09 2011 18:37 GMT
#172
On November 09 2011 15:50 SuperStyle wrote:
Nerchio - Stephano finals, anything else would be an upset tbh.


Lol Grubby beat Nerchio 3 times in official tournaments recently..... And I do think Ret is also a better Zerg aswell.
- me (L) competitive gaming -
ZOMGitsTHEEND
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada202 Posts
November 09 2011 19:01 GMT
#173
players casting???? OMG this is gonna be awesome! alghough if whitera casts, i might not be able to understand everything Lol
alistarnl
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands144 Posts
November 09 2011 19:11 GMT
#174
On November 10 2011 01:00 algue wrote:
Grubby or Stephano will win this !
Nerchio and Kas are not doing so well during of line tournaments
ret is IMO a little bit overrated
White-ra is good but can't beat steph or Grubby
Socke can go to the final or just lose 2-0 !
TLO totally overrated !


ret overrated :O? This guy has the best macro in the game proven by that sq thread which conducted tests to find out who macro's the best.
dsousa
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1363 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 19:22:54
November 09 2011 19:13 GMT
#175
I think the winner of White-Ra vs Stephano in round 2 will win it all.

I think it will be Stephano, but White-Ra does have a very long history of surprise tournament results.

Ret in the finals of the other side. Ret could take it vs White-Ra, but not vs Stephano IMO.

Odds to win:
Stephano: 3/2
WhiteRa: 4/1
Ret: 4/1
Socke 6/1
Grubby 8/1
TLO, Kas, Nerchio - 10/1

Bo5 and Bo7 for semi and finals make upsets less likely.

The bracket does seem a bit unbalanced, the side with Stephano, White-Ra, TLO and Grubby is far stronger IMO. Especially with Grubby having been in Korea now for quite some time.

I haven't seen Kas play much lately, but his 80% win-rate on EU ladder makes me tentative on my 10/1 for him.... but I've haven't seen him do well in tourney's while travelling and until a pro show's differently ladder results don't necessarily translate to tourney success. Stage play is another beast to be conquered, and until you slay that dragon, you'll always have to deal with it.

Amazing field of players though, can't wait to watch!


qbs
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland771 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 19:23:45
November 09 2011 19:23 GMT
#176
On November 10 2011 04:13 dsousa wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I think the winner of White-Ra vs Stephano in round 2 will win it all.

I think it will be Stephano, but White-Ra does have a very long history of surprise tournament results.

Ret in the finals of the other side. Ret could take it vs White-Ra, but not vs Stephano IMO.

Odds to win:
Stephano: 3/2
WhiteRa: 4/1
Ret: 4/1
Socke 6/1
Grubby 8/1
TLO, Kas, Nerchio - 10/1

Bo5 and Bo7 for semi and finals make upsets less likely.

The bracket does seem a bit unbalanced, the side with Stephano, White-Ra, TLO and Grubby is far stronger IMO. Especially with Grubby having been in Korea now for quite some time.

I haven't seen Kas play much lately, but his 80% win-rate on EU ladder makes me tentative on my 10/1 for him.... but I've haven't seen him do well in tourney's while travelling and until a pro show's differently ladder results don't necessarily translate to tourney success.




well ur odds are rly wierd man O_o
but hey maybe its only me : P
i think TLO`s 10/1 are rly optimistic since he plays Z and hes T is not so gosu either : o
DeMusliM !!!
CEO
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden16 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 19:25:12
November 09 2011 19:24 GMT
#177
Stephano will most likely smash through this tournament.


2-0 vs Grubby
3-1 vs White-Ra
3-0 vs TLO
4-1 vs Nerchio/Socke
4-2 vs Kas/Ret
dsousa
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1363 Posts
November 09 2011 19:26 GMT
#178
On November 10 2011 04:23 qbs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 04:13 dsousa wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I think the winner of White-Ra vs Stephano in round 2 will win it all.

I think it will be Stephano, but White-Ra does have a very long history of surprise tournament results.

Ret in the finals of the other side. Ret could take it vs White-Ra, but not vs Stephano IMO.

Odds to win:
Stephano: 3/2
WhiteRa: 4/1
Ret: 4/1
Socke 6/1
Grubby 8/1
TLO, Kas, Nerchio - 10/1

Bo5 and Bo7 for semi and finals make upsets less likely.

The bracket does seem a bit unbalanced, the side with Stephano, White-Ra, TLO and Grubby is far stronger IMO. Especially with Grubby having been in Korea now for quite some time.

I haven't seen Kas play much lately, but his 80% win-rate on EU ladder makes me tentative on my 10/1 for him.... but I've haven't seen him do well in tourney's while travelling and until a pro show's differently ladder results don't necessarily translate to tourney success.




well ur odds are rly wierd man O_o
but hey maybe its only me : P
i think TLO`s 10/1 are rly optimistic since he plays Z and hes T is not so gosu either : o


well.. there are only 8 players in the field, but ya it could be lower for sure maybe closer to 15 to 1. I love TLO though, and the event is in Germany... and he is German... so home field advantage helps :D
JujuXG
Profile Joined September 2011
United States373 Posts
November 09 2011 19:28 GMT
#179
i wish thorzain was in this, but go white-ra!!! special tac-tic
White-ra should trademark those terms
"I'm naturally good at everything. I'm good at eating too, so that's why I can't lose weight."
rza
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada384 Posts
November 09 2011 19:33 GMT
#180
i see Socke vs Stephano in the final!
Until my death, my goal's to stay alive.
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