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Darkstar_X
Profile Joined May 2010
United States197 Posts
November 05 2011 20:55 GMT
#181
I'm curious if the TL SC2 viewers saw the HoN games as well and vice versa. Are there many people who enjoyed both through this season?
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
November 05 2011 21:58 GMT
#182
On November 06 2011 01:30 -orb- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 00:34 archonOOid wrote:
why are there so many casters? this is a sc2 tournament not a casters convention.


You do realize there are fewer casters at the NASL S2 Finals than there were at MLG right?

MLG Lineup: Day9, Husky, djWHEAT, JP, Tasteless, Artosis, +4 beta stream "community casters" = 10 casters.
NASL Lineup: Day9, Husky, djWHEAT, Diggity, Rotterdam, MrBitter, Gretorp, orb (gunrun is MCing I believe though I could be wrong don't quote me on that) = 8 casters.

10 casters for 4 streams and 120+ games.

9 casters for 1 stream and 15 games.


Great comparison.
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
November 05 2011 21:59 GMT
#183
On November 06 2011 05:55 Darkstar_X wrote:
I'm curious if the TL SC2 viewers saw the HoN games as well and vice versa. Are there many people who enjoyed both through this season?

I gave it a try when I tuned into NASL and SC2 wasn't on, but it was so bad I had to tune out again.

No idea how people can enjoy watching that shit.
FreudianTrip
Profile Joined July 2011
Switzerland1983 Posts
November 05 2011 22:02 GMT
#184
You literally can't watch HoN at 360p even if you did want to watch it.
Adebisi
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1637 Posts
November 05 2011 23:32 GMT
#185
Excited for NASL finals .

That's a lot of casters o.o, dedicated obs would be good imo!
-ZiG-
Profile Joined November 2010
United States84 Posts
November 06 2011 02:17 GMT
#186
i havent even kept up with this honestly but that prize pool is damn nice
Lets ride
habbey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States405 Posts
November 06 2011 02:43 GMT
#187
On November 04 2011 06:30 Marksofshame wrote:
Please let Orb cast the finals

Can't wait, its gonna be so sick :D


yes yes yes, please.
Nighthawks28
Profile Joined June 2011
United States232 Posts
November 06 2011 03:08 GMT
#188
Please don't make the same mistake as IPL3. Don't put HoN finals right before the sc2 finals. Please keep the streams separate.
tabbott26
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom379 Posts
November 06 2011 03:11 GMT
#189
Looking good, can't wait for the online experience!!
EGHuK - EGIdra - EGDeMuslim - MVPGenius - Liquid'Sheth - ROOTKiwikaki
ChestKunt
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada81 Posts
November 06 2011 03:30 GMT
#190
awesome! cant wait
i love my collosi and storms <3
Supdude
Profile Joined August 2011
244 Posts
November 06 2011 03:45 GMT
#191
I suggest also provide the playoff HD pass information...maybe even an early-bird special like $3 off for signing up now.

Last season I bought the HD pass for playoff and it was totally worth it.
CatNzHat
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1599 Posts
November 06 2011 05:32 GMT
#192
OMG finals on my B-day, so epic!!!!

Gonna be a good year...
aFganFlyTrap
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia212 Posts
November 06 2011 15:36 GMT
#193
i cant for the life of me think of why you need 9 casters let alone invite bitter and rotti over from europe to what??? cast 1 possibly 2 series? also you KNOW they wont be casting the finals even though they would be the best duo there hands down. this seems extremely excessive and just plain stupid tbh and mbcarmac's comments lately are holding up pretty well atm.

Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 17:02:47
November 06 2011 17:02 GMT
#194
Way too many casters, very unnecessary.

Gretorp and Orb should be there, as your two main casters like it's been all season. But you only have one stream and it's single elimination.

Ro16: 8 Best of 5's.
Ro8: 4 best of 7's
Ro4: 2 best of 7's
Ro2: 1 best of 7.

So you have 9 casters for a total of 15 series. 2 casting pairs would be more than enough. Gretorp and Orb for your brand, then someone like Day[J]Wheat or Bitterdam. The rest of them are just not needed.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
sa1330
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany43 Posts
November 06 2011 17:29 GMT
#195
Bitterdam JUST MADE MY DAY NASL!!!
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 17:35:32
November 06 2011 17:34 GMT
#196
On November 05 2011 22:53 Frogsox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 22:33 Serinox wrote:
My opinion on the caster:

• Day9 - He is god.
• Diggity - Never heard of him. Could be good or could be bad idk.
• DjWheat - A beast of a caster, I like him really much, especially together with Day9
• Gretorp - Meh. Look, I'm not the kind of person who hates caster for no reason and I can endure many things. But Gretorp just annoyed me through the season. He didn't even get better with co-casters (excluding him and orb). His cast with Sheth was horrible and honestly it was not Sheths fault. And his casting with Gunrun was even worse. He is the main caster, he will probably cast the finals and if you have to do it NASL, please give him Orb as partner, thats the best you can do, if it has to be Gretorp.
• Husky - He gets much hate. I can understand it, but I like him. He has a good mix of game analysing and entertainment.
• MrBitter - He has a very good understanding of the game, especially with zerg and together with Rotterdam, he's very entertaining. The only thing is that the bashing can sometimes go too far for a serious cast (I don't count Grass is Greener as serious )
• Orb - Didn't know much about him, but he really impressed me this season. He is the only one to make Gretorp good, because he talks so much more than him (which is good)
• Rotterdam - He is very entertaining and has a good game skill, together with MrBitter he is very good, but don't let the bashing go too far on this one.
• TheGunrun - Didn't liked him through the season and did not see anything else from him. Meh.


I pretty much agree with all your points there. I think a lot of people who haven't watched ESL before will be really surprised and happy with Bitterdam.


Diggity was the first starcraft caster I ever heard and he's really good. search him on youtube and he's got some great and indepth game commentary... or you can watch this for the lulz:


I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
whateverpeeps
Profile Joined August 2011
United States214 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 18:00:52
November 06 2011 18:00 GMT
#197
I can't believe people are actually whining about NASL having too many casters. I think this guy put it best:

On November 06 2011 05:04 PHILtheTANK wrote:
You should be happy that people will get to enjoy some of their favorite casters, even if they don't get to see them cast EVERY game. You should also be happy that the NASL is providing work for all these people so they can continue to provide content for you.


Have any of you considered the possibility that these casters might have asked NASL if they can cast? Or, they were attending anyway and NASL wanted to make use of them? Or that they're not there to cast but also do other things (I think Orb said GunRun is MCing)?

Seriously, the NASL hate is getting really depressing. At least last season there were somewhat legitimate reasons. But now, they've 1) fixed the prize pool, 2) fixed the format, 3) added a caster lineup to address caster complaints this season...

And rather than saying, "Good job NASL" people go, "OMFG WTF TOO MANY CASTERS"

SMH.
Tinkerbelle
Profile Joined January 2011
United States29 Posts
November 06 2011 18:58 GMT
#198
On November 06 2011 14:32 CatNzHat wrote:
OMG finals on my B-day, so epic!!!!

Gonna be a good year...


Well, happy early birthday!
Why is the rum always gone?
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
November 06 2011 20:22 GMT
#199
I look forward to this, and hope for a smooth and exciting tournament.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
November 06 2011 20:32 GMT
#200
Can't wait~~~~~~
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
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